Great Post Dave, hit the nail on the head really
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I've been giving some thought to this ... you posed the question earlier. I don't know if I can see a correspondence, but the American media is a powerful institution. (I almost said "American culture", that's a nice oxymoron
) I think one could argue that the American media is a weapon of mass destruction, insinuating itself into every part of the planet. The more-or-less glamorization of the gang culture makes it attractive to young people all over the world. The trivialization of crime ... it becomes a plot line ... and its sanitization and realistic presentation make it attractive. The fad of reality shows seems to be convincing people that what they see on TV is real, rather than merely realistic. In some ways the US media creates its own realities: they lose the war in Viet Nam, but they win the same war in Hollywood (with a little help from Stalone
The Indiana Jones film shown last night had so much "harmless" violence in it that gives the wrong idea to kids - like people getting punched in the face repeatedly and no effect, that gives the wrong impression and must have an effect on how kids see violence ; obviously??? There was a time when kids didn't see violence on TV so readily and it really was all after 9pm - yes Hollywood is misleading. I saw a early episode of "Shameless" in which the climax was setting fire to a council house and the whole family celebrating - this is cartoon violence glamorised by Channel 4 and in the light of senseless violence in the riots last August - surely "Shameless" and the rest does influence this kind of behaviour.
As well as all the Hollywood propaganda!!!
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To be honest kestrelx 90% of the stuff on channel 4 is rubbish, for one I've never watched Shameless, the title puts me of for a start, but film and TV do have a lot to answer for with the behaviour in society todayThe Indiana Jones film shown last night had so much "harmless" violence in it that gives the wrong idea to kids - like people getting punched in the face repeatedly and no effect, that gives the wrong impression and must have an effect on how kids see violence ; obviously??? There was a time when kids didn't see violence on TV so readily and it really was all after 9pm - yes Hollywood is misleading. I saw a early episode of "Shameless" in which the climax was setting fire to a council house and the whole family celebrating - this is cartoon violence glamorised by Channel 4 and in the light of senseless violence in the riots last August - surely "Shameless" and the rest does influence this kind of behaviour.
Well kestrelx i agree wholeheartedly, T.V. n Film, have much to answer fer,in my book, ah mean some of these knobheads think "Corry" n "Eastenders" are real,n "Rambo" n "Arnie" etc, well they are the men.The Indiana Jones film shown last night had so much "harmless" violence in it that gives the wrong idea to kids - like people getting punched in the face repeatedly and no effect, that gives the wrong impression and must have an effect on how kids see violence ; obviously??? There was a time when kids didn't see violence on TV so readily and it really was all after 9pm - yes Hollywood is misleading. I saw a early episode of "Shameless" in which the climax was setting fire to a council house and the whole family celebrating - this is cartoon violence glamorised by Channel 4 and in the light of senseless violence in the riots last August - surely "Shameless" and the rest does influence this kind of behaviour.
If I lived in Wallford, think I'd contemplate a moveWell kestrelx i agree wholeheartedly, T.V. n Film, have much to answer fer,in my book, ah mean some of these knobheads think "Corry" n "Eastenders" are real,n "Rambo" n "Arnie" etc, well they are the men.
Thats all though, yer too knackered to flit.If I lived in Wallford, think I'd contemplate a move
So...the two scummers who killed an innocent lad because of the colour of his skin have received minimum sentences of 15 years and 14 years 3 months. The judge said he couldn't give them longer because he was "constrained by Parliament".
THIS is why so many people clamour for a return to capital punishment. Because justice is so obviously not seen to be done in this country...and this is the fault of politicians of all parties who misrule us.
THIS is why so many people clamour for a return to capital punishment. Because justice is so obviously not seen to be done in this country...and this is the fault of politicians of all parties who misrule us.
Disgraceful, but hardly a shock, the minority of dogooders will always outweigh the majority wyn, simple fact.
seems the judge had no choice,cos of their ages when offence was commited.
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Disgraceful, but hardly a shock, the minority of dogooders will always outweigh the majority wyn, simple fact.
Quite right, mate, the judge had no choice. But the reason he had no choice was because of the rules and laws laid down by our politicians.
The judge should beallowed to give two life sentences....to run consecutively...and even that would not be long enough for them.
I hope that when these two do go to Jail, their lives are made miserable by the Afro carribean population in the nick.....I hope one of them grasses up the other chaps who were in this gang of lads, on the night that Stephen Lawrence was murdered too.
They thought they were home free.......no chance of being brought to justice.
I hope that when these two do go to Jail, their lives are made miserable by the Afro carribean population in the nick.....I hope one of them grasses up the other chaps who were in this gang of lads, on the night that Stephen Lawrence was murdered too.
They thought they were home free.......no chance of being brought to justice.
If you really want to make sure someone convicted of evil crimes be punished then we should have a TV program bit like Big Brother in which the public phone in and vote on forms of trial and punishment for criminals and they are shown on TV carrying out their ordeal. This would make sure they never got too lax in their prison haven of pleasure and pain! The program would ensure they got pain and lots of it!
He was also only allowed to sentence them as juveniles , as they were only 16-17 at the time the offence was committed
The law is as they say an ASS
It could be a start if the word concurrently was deleted from the law books and replaced by consecutively
Had they been convicted at the first trial they would be out round about now.
The law should allow for the judge to add on extra years for the years that they avoided justice.
And the mother who said her son was home at the time of the attack, should now be prosecuted for perjury and perverting the course of justice.
The law should allow for the judge to add on extra years for the years that they avoided justice.
And the mother who said her son was home at the time of the attack, should now be prosecuted for perjury and perverting the course of justice.
Two down, three to go.
Gary Dobson and David Norris have been put away for a long, long time (although not as long as they should be!)
The police have received fresh information that will hopefully lead to the conviction of Neil Acourt, Jamie Acourt and Luke Knight. They have already been branded 'murderers'
And the public appetite is for them to be brought to justice.
And they will, however long it takes.
Gary Dobson and David Norris have been put away for a long, long time (although not as long as they should be!)
The police have received fresh information that will hopefully lead to the conviction of Neil Acourt, Jamie Acourt and Luke Knight. They have already been branded 'murderers'
And the public appetite is for them to be brought to justice.
And they will, however long it takes.
I'm sure that Knight and the Acourt boys are brickin' it right now.
I would hope so, remember the cocky sods on tv the last time.
I doubt this is over..these two are bound to appeal.
Never liked the US style of plea bargianing but can't see any of the accused "grassing" if they are likely to get the same sentence... these two may not be the one that stabbed the lad but they were there and involved .. but the one who committed the murder may still be free.
Never liked the US style of plea bargianing but can't see any of the accused "grassing" if they are likely to get the same sentence... these two may not be the one that stabbed the lad but they were there and involved .. but the one who committed the murder may still be free.
Ya the arrogant barstewards, they should have thrown the key away and what about one of their mothers, saying he was at home that night, why has she not been arrested
A contentious issue, to be sure.
Just to stir the waters a little, what would those who do not advocate a return to the death penalty do to rehabilitate this character..?
Convicted killer Liam Ryan shows off his PlayStation, TV and snacks from inside young offenders institute cell | Mail Online
Just to stir the waters a little, what would those who do not advocate a return to the death penalty do to rehabilitate this character..?
Convicted killer Liam Ryan shows off his PlayStation, TV and snacks from inside young offenders institute cell | Mail Online