Our Defence

I like to take to task valarian blaming deano/left back for the defensive problems , firsty all the goals conceeded are to be seen on tv, how many would you put down to him ? watch them and you will be suprised.
The biggest culprit is what is called the square ie 2 centre backs and 2 centre midfielders. doesnt matter how many crosses come in ,if your square defends particulary the second ball you rarely conceed.
The other main problem is the full backs are asked to stay out wide leaving big gaps between the full back and centre backs for runners to exploit . different coaches have different ideas on this
true deano is a centre back/sweeper but has played there only twice (and he scored).
His best position is sweeper prob along side kempo ,but edwards wont be rested as hes played over 100 consecutive games
He played along side kempo in pre season and they never conceeded whilst together.
The major factor is the pitches,and since feb its there for all to see,the team have been asked to go long and the team has not got the players to do this,hence the ball just comes straight back
So before looking for scapegoats , study the facts first,by the way he can use his left foot as well as his right ---- rant over

Who are you, his Dad???:D:D:D
 
sorry for my rant,but he says he loves it at acci and would play anywhere, he prob has been lumbered with that position and never moans,just gives everything in ever game, hes played over 10 games injured during the season but never complained
 
Football19, I honestly don't know a single Accy fan that doesn't think Deano is ace. Despite playing out of position he's made very few mistakes this season, and even they were only due to inexperience in League football (one that springs to mind is penatly giveaway vs Shrewsbury at home). The fact that he took earful after earful from a frustrated Kempo on Monday and still wanted to get forward and grab a goal is a testament to his attitude. People would just feel more comfortable with a left footed full back on that side. Too often here at Stanley players are played out of position and it doesn't work. However, out of our three best left backs in recent years, two have been right footed! That includes Deano! He's miles better than (left footed) Chris King...
 
STRANGE how a season can throw up differing situations.

You've got the bragging rights over us....again:(

Whilst it could go down to the last scheduled game at Christie Park to determine whether or not we are in the play offs.;)

FUNNY GAME FOOTBALL:confused:
 
Deano is quality! proberly one of the best signings coley has made this season, and going to be a really good player for us over the next few years when he has more league experience, gives his all every game and likes getting foward and he has some pace aswell, hope he stays next year, proberly get snapped up by a higher league team next couple of years, like shaker says kept his head and wanted to get foward after getting his head ripped of by kempo, deano deano deano deano
 
Whilst it could go down to the last scheduled game at Christie Park to determine whether or not we are in the play offs.;)

FUNNY GAME FOOTBALL:confused:

it would be funny watching a Bury v Morecambe paly off semi final, who would we support?

our perennial 'enemies' from the Bay who we are annually better than over two games but worse than over 46? or our new found love in with the ex-Lancs Mancs? Personally think that we'd have to support the home team at each leg. And supporting Morecambe would give The Ultras the chance to roll out the flags for one extra game this year! How good was it to see the 'Pride of Lancashire' flag displayed at your previous play off with Dagenham, and with all us knowing it wasn't Morecambes! looked good on t'telly :cool:
 
our defence or lack of it is alarming. we havnt had a balanced back 4 since hollis left. liam has been great as he was good in possession. that is where one of the main problems is for me. none of the back 4 are comfortable on the ball (with kempson and winnard being the main culprits). this results in the hoof ball we all hate. the midfield know its coming so they push forward expecting flick ons. we lose 1st ball and get counter attacked against a shaky defence and a hologram in goal = recipe for disaster.
 
our defence or lack of it is alarming. we havnt had a balanced back 4 since hollis left. liam has been great as he was good in possession. that is where one of the main problems is for me. none of the back 4 are comfortable on the ball (with kempson and winnard being the main culprits). this results in the hoof ball we all hate. the midfield know its coming so they push forward expecting flick ons. we lose 1st ball and get counter attacked against a shaky defence and a hologram in goal = recipe for disaster.
That's not true. Our defence is relied on too much; too often it is the first rather than the last line to be tested. The midfield is not balanced. Perhaps making Procter captain was a mistake in that respect as our most effective central midfield pairing is Ryan/Joyce. It's simple. As far as uncharacteristic mistakes are concerned, Phil Edwards has to do more than his own workload more often than not and this can lead to mistakes. He's still the best defender in the team, one of the best in the league, and I'm going to go to the other thread and vote him player of the season.
 
winnard is a good defender and does particularly well against people who have pace, adomah springs to mind. its just painful watching him on the ball, for some 1 who has been at a premiership academy he is very blinkered. count how many times he passes to his winger and how many times he hoofs it next game. 1/3 ratio. consistent defender yes good attacking full back no
 
I think I'm the only one who is in favour of Coley's 'four centre halves along the back' mentality. It's ideal for League 2. It just seems that we haven't got the wing play to support that, unfortunately.
 
I think I'm the only one who is in favour of Coley's 'four centre halves along the back' mentality. It's ideal for League 2. It just seems that we haven't got the wing play to support that, unfortunately.
i reckon we could have the wing play, fer some strange reason its not utilised as it could be.:confused:
 
count how many times he passes to his winger and how many times he hoofs it next game.

I think this comment is a little unfair!! I mean you've got to put it into context.

You say count how many times he passes to his winger, well most of the season that winger has been Mr Invisible himself, John Miles. Its very hard to use your winger as a full back, if they aren't where they are supposed to be, or in many cases with Miles, inexplicably hiding behind an oppo player!! This gives Dean 3 options, pass square to a fellow defender (which is very dangerous), pass into the centre of midfield (which is generally overcrowded and where we stand little chance of using the ball effectively) or do what most full backs are taught through all academy levels and what most promanagers preach regularly, hit the striker.

The idea is that the fullback releases the ball early to the striker, in the air. The striker then knocksdown the ball or controls it and releases either of his wingers to run at the oppo full back and either go past him to the by-line and cross the ball, or deliver the cross early into the space behind the two oppo centre halfs, for either of the strikers, an attacking centre mid or winger from the opposite flank to run onto and finish.

This is a classic counter attacking strategy.

The problem we have is in picking up the knock downs and my favorite moan of the season, second balls. If we won even half of the second balls we fail to be anywhere near in every area of the pitch, we would concede less and find ourselves attacking more.

I the words of Aleksander Orlov . . . . SIMPLES!!!!!
 
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it would be funny watching a Bury v Morecambe paly off semi final, who would we support?

our perennial 'enemies' from the Bay who we are annually better than over two games but worse than over 46? or our new found love in with the ex-Lancs Mancs? Personally think that we'd have to support the home team at each leg. And supporting Morecambe would give The Ultras the chance to roll out the flags for one extra game this year! How good was it to see the 'Pride of Lancashire' flag displayed at your previous play off with Dagenham, and with all us knowing it wasn't Morecambes! looked good on t'telly :cool:

Such a dilemma....but don't worry can't see Bury getting there.

;););)

How much for Symes?

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Sparkies post is spot on regarding distribution / playing from the back.
What people dont realise is the players are being told / coached to play a certain way. In deanos case its totally opposite to what hes been coached for the last 10 years.
All academy cb s are encouraged to get on the ball and play,bring the ball down instead of heading it !
Div 2 football is totally different ( playing services have a lot to do with it ).
Higher level clubs look for TABS technique,attitude,balance and speed before even considering a player
Its pointless asking the keeper to throw the ball out as hes told not to !!!
 
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