School Beards.

I don't see how speaking with the elders is ridiculous, anything that helped the school to a sensible and balanced view has to be better than just talking to the parents.

"A side bar issue" as the yanks tend to say Ol. Just read some of Mo Farrah's bio and he makes mention of the respect he had for the elders in the madrassas including the big stick. Oh the good old days on Union Road eh?

It is ridiculous because the elders have only one intention, and that is definitely not to support the school, but to support the boys involved by invoking the religious card.
It should be the parents or guardians only.
 
I see your point, however, The other year i refused for my daughter to visit a mosque to study their beliefs. You want to know why i refused? Simple, It was a 1 way thing. It was ok for my daughter to visit a mosque but there was no school trip arranged to visit a church or any other faiths place of worship. Why is that? Simple, they do not belief in any other faiths nor will try to understand other peoples religious beliefs regardless.

Well you should have pressed the school harder in the interests of impartiality and balance to arrange as many cross cultural visits to schools, places of worship etc.

Let me tell you from vast experience, if you ask someone if they are your average politically active person they will insist that they are – and then they will do precisely zero about things they moan about..
 
It is ridiculous because the elders have only one intention, and that is definitely not to support the school, but to support the boys involved by invoking the religious card.
It should be the parents or guardians only.
Utterly Ridiculous all children should be treated equally, seems the bleeding heart liberals can't grasp that simple fact.
 
It is ridiculous because the elders have only one intention, and that is definitely not to support the school, but to support the boys involved by invoking the religious card.
It should be the parents or guardians only.

Where in all this brouhaha Mrs P have the elders made a statement invoking the religious card?
 
They(the elders) have said that the growing of facial hair is what the prophet did and that these boys are emulating the prophet.....but that isn't religious is it?

They did not support the schools dress and uniform policy, but stated that these religious beliefs should be respected.

If these boys wish to follow slavishly the actions of the prophet, then they should be in a school which accommodates this practice.
 
They(the elders) have said that the growing of facial hair is what the prophet did and that these boys are emulating the prophet.....but that isn't religious is it?

They did not support the schools dress and uniform policy, but stated that these religious beliefs should be respected.

If these boys wish to follow slavishly the actions of the prophet, then they should be in a school which accommodates this practice.

There will no doubt be a goodly few kids sporting hairstyles emulating Justin Beiber too Mrs P up Willows Lane.
 
Well. On this subject- If I had any children I would prefer that they do not go to any religious school and request that they do not get force fed any religion. Totally and utterly irrelevant to curriculum. In a perfect world, imho- would be no religious schools whatsoever.

religion shoudl be kept away from all education and politics period its like having 2 subjedcts of fact been interfered with by a fairy tale yet having influence over the two sensible things.

unfotunatly religion is drummed into people from a very young age and its very hard to shake it off.Even the most hardened athiest will say things like thank god for that and jesus christ that hurt.It shouldnt be brought up until a person reaches adulthood when it can see it for what it is.A total farce from page 1 to the end of its user manual or bible as its called by some lol
 
brouhaha - a confused disturbance far greater than its cause merits

Pinching a phrase from the Dragons Den

" I'm out"
 
religion shoudl be kept away from all education and politics period its like having 2 subjedcts of fact been interfered with by a fairy tale yet having influence over the two sensible things.

unfotunatly religion is drummed into people from a very young age and its very hard to shake it off.Even the most hardened athiest will say things like thank god for that and jesus christ that hurt.It shouldnt be brought up until a person reaches adulthood when it can see it for what it is.A total farce from page 1 to the end of its user manual or bible as its called by some lol

Some folk have religion, drummed in from birth, other folk have football drummed in from birth.

Taken to their extremes, both can cause bad feeling and arguments!

However, I think I would rather go to a football match, how many religions serve pies to the fans at half time?
:)
 
There will no doubt be a goodly few kids sporting hairstyles emulating Justin Beiber too Mrs P up Willows Lane.
I'm sure there are, but if this does not contravene the dress and unform code of the school then it has no part in this discussion...and they certainly won't be consulting 'elders' to support their case.
 
Well you should have pressed the school harder in the interests of impartiality and balance to arrange as many cross cultural visits to schools, places of worship etc.

Let me tell you from vast experience, if you ask someone if they are your average politically active person they will insist that they are – and then they will do precisely zero about things they moan about..


I did press the school. There policy was to respect the religious beliefs of other faiths hence no trips to other faiths places of worship. Now the school was respecting there views so they got told to respect mine also. Now i aint a religious person but i believe that all are equal regardless of faith as there is too much ill feeling etc.However, if we were to ever live in harmony then respect must come from all and not the 1
 
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Some folk have religion, drummed in from birth, other folk have football drummed in from birth.

Taken to their extremes, both can cause bad feeling and arguments!

However, I think I would rather go to a football match, how many religions serve pies to the fans at half time?
:)
And yeh can have a pint wi yer pie these days, Does that not tempt yeh Less?:D
 
brouhaha - a confused disturbance far greater than its cause merits

Pinching a phrase from the Dragons Den

" I'm out"
You really are kind aren't you?
Taking time out from your busy day to educate us.
I have a dictionary.......I know how to use it.
'I'm out'? Does this mean your participation in this thread is at an end?
 
If there was a religion that served pies and pints sign me up. Sounds better than bread and lambrini

You see how easily you're persuaded?

Think for yourself, not the herd, why do Christians refer to each other as the flock?

Baa, you work it out, it shouldn't need explaining.
:/
 
They(the elders) have said that the growing of facial hair is what the prophet did and that these boys are emulating the prophet.....but that isn't religious is it?
Isn`t it a shame Jesus didn`t have a beard, then all the catholic lads (or their parents) could use that excuse.
 
Isn`t it a shame Jesus didn`t have a beard, then all the catholic lads (or their parents) could use that excuse.

Isn't it strange?

Jesus without a beard?

Next thing you'll be saying he wasn't a Jew!

What was God thinking of when he created man?
:)
 
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