Read in the paper this morning that kids in a school in Leeds have had their cigarettes taken from them only to have them given back at lunchtime and break times so they can smoke them in a special area in the playground !!! What is the world coming to ? Smoking under 16yrs of age is the law of the land not a school rule. I think the school in question needs a head teacher like Mabel Horne,late of Accrington High School. I can imagine what she would have thought of it all.
Smoking in school
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I don`t think that`s quite true Rowlf, although it should be.
Illegal to sell tobacco to under eighteens, but not a criminal offence for under 16`s to smoke (in private).
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Children and Young Persons Act 1933
Teachers have to be careful these days, just what they can and can't do, remember the European Human Rights Act
When I was at school if a teacher had found fags on you they would have been confiscated, full stop, but they can't do that today, sadly 
Illegal to sell cigarettes to an under 18 year old, not illegal for an under 16 to smoke.
Not surprised at this really. When I was at college there was a smoking room in the rivalling college (one reason I didn't choose it)!albeit this was ages 16 and up.
I suppose the only redeeming part of this is that teenagers love to rebel, and a lot of them I am guessing only smoke because of this. It could make it not as attractive to them, although this isn't the reasoning behind it.
Not surprised at this really. When I was at college there was a smoking room in the rivalling college (one reason I didn't choose it)!albeit this was ages 16 and up.
I suppose the only redeeming part of this is that teenagers love to rebel, and a lot of them I am guessing only smoke because of this. It could make it not as attractive to them, although this isn't the reasoning behind it.
Teachers have to be careful these days, just what they can and can't do, remember the European Human Rights Act
But back in the day, all the teachers smoked ... and the pay wasn't all that hot; so, three crumpled 'bines was a welcome addition to their tobacco stash
I can see them in the staff room, passing around a Woodbine until someone called for a pin to get the last two drags out of it
But I do agree with your point that when Human Rights Acts trump common sense and doing what is right, they become, well, silly ... silly, trivial, and bloody annoying.
We all know, in a general sense, what "common sense" is; we all know wrong from right ... though we may argue about details. Well, maybe not all of us ... there's a bunch of folks in Westminster, Ottawa, and, most def., Washington D.C. and Brussels (?), etc. .......................
Shocking ... kids should be forced to smoke in the bogs as we were.
Luxury ..... sheer luxury, indoors in the bogs? We had to make do with a scabby, cold, old bike shed!
Luxury ..... sheer luxury, indoors in the bogs? We had to make do with a scabby, cold, old bike shed!
Mmm ... guess you never smelled the bog at Accy Grammar ... smelled worse than an anchovie's asshole
... not quite as bad as the bog by the bus stop at the Forts, but gettin' there ... I've smelled better bogs in France for chrissake
that's funny how can Scotland ban smoking in public places I think saying it is do with the European human rights act is rubbish . misinformed is the word
that's funny how can Scotland ban smoking in public places I think saying it is do with the European human rights act is rubbish . misinformed is the word
I'm assuming this is a quote from "Finnegans Wake"
i remember in biology the teacher pulled ouot a machine that you placed a lit ciggy in and it would draw the ciggy as if it was been smoked.We were then shown what was left behind on a scrap of cloth which was all the tar and bad stuff and told that was what you were taking into your lungs
the ciggys used were ones confiscated from kids
as far as i know the remainder of the pack was not given back to the kid in question
the ciggys used were ones confiscated from kids
as far as i know the remainder of the pack was not given back to the kid in question
Of course not, the teacher smoked them.
Smoking was really strictly condemned at the school I went to-and from my parent's rule, I wasn't even allowed to associate with any pupils or other friends who smoked, but there was never any teachings about it.
Just smoking=bad-that was that!
Just smoking=bad-that was that!
I would have thought a school classed as a public building and that no smoking would be allowed anywhere within the grounds. At Hyndburn Borough Council smoking was banned altogether several years ago. You can't even smoke in your own car on a Council car park. Staff who previously could go to a nice cosy smoking room in works time suddenly found themselves having to clock out, put on their outdoor coat and go and sit on a bench at the bottom of Ormerod Street. How will these kids cope with the discipline of a workplace where smoking isn't allowed if they have been allowed to light up at certain times in a designated area of the playground? Also, whatever happened to promoting a healthy lifestyle?
The thing I can never get my head round, never having been a smoker, is seeing patients in wheelchairs, wearing their pyjamas or nighties and dressing gowns, still attached to their drip, sitting in the freezing cold outside the front door of all our hospitals, having a fag! The mind boggles!
Save the boggling for things cofusing and difficult to comprehend ... this is a no brainer; smoking is an addiction
When I started, it was more-or-less expected that one would smoke. You could smoke in restaurants, buses, trains, planes, movie theatres, even hospitals for chrissake. And now, as Edmund observed: "The wheel has come full circle." Problem I have with the anti-smoking campaigns and laws, are that they seem to have moralistic overtones (undertones too). It's as if smokers are not sufferers from an addiction, but, somehow they are immoral, sinful, not as "good" as non smokers. This, of course, is an immense crock of horse manure. I find the obviously punitive measures taken against smokers distasteful. However, I do feel that point of anti-smoking measures should be to prevent people from starting.
I don't think one can deny the zealotory and smug moralizing of the anti-smoking campaign ... it's as plain as the fact that smoking is a powerful addiction, which should, through education and good-parenting (I know ... this is a tricky one) and reasonable restrictions on smokers, be limited to an ever decreasing addicted minority.