The Swarm!

Wynonie Harris said:
Jeremy Corbyn's reaction to Cameron's comments.

"The anti-foreigner rhetoric and vocabulary being used by the Prime Minister must be challenged head-on."

So, I assume Corbyn is a "PC liberal lefty luvvie"?

Just asking.
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seems like it

dosnt seem to show any gratitude either

hes a big fan of pothole covers from what iv read and heard yet despite our MP saving countless pothole covers lives our MP is no longer worthy of been in his clique :eek:
 
Well cameron says he will build 200.000 houses by 2020, that must be to make up some of what his god "Maggie" sold off?" wonder why the media aint mentioned that fact.:rolleyes:
 
The press have mentioned it on a number of occasions:

David Cameron aims to woo voters with plan for 200,000 discounted homes | Society | The Guardian

As for Jeremy Corbyn's quote, it's just that - a quote. It's not a quote that's been distorted or where one word's been taken out of context, it's what he actually said.

Here's another quote taken from his own website:

"Thank you to the Foreign Secretary for giving way. On the subject of refugees, he’s obviously as aware as everyone else is of the massive flow of migrants across the Mediterranean, many of whom thousands have already died also those in the Andaman Sea and elsewhere. There is a global phenomenon of victims of war, poverty and oppression fleeing in desperate circumstances. Does the government have a strategy of supporting refugees, of supporting saving life at sea, rather than repelling people seeking a place of safety?"

So why is Accyexplorer a "do-gooder PC lefty liberal" for saying similar things, yet Jeremy Corbyn isn't?
 
I think people are well aware of Thatcher's great council house sell-off...and the irony of Cameron now embarking on a building scheme to replace them.

As for Corbyn, yes, he's suffered from the press distorting his views. That's why I only ever use his actual quotes or material from his own website.

Quotes like: "The anti-foreigner rhetoric and vocabulary being used by the Prime Minister must be challenged head-on."

As a bit of a Guardian-reading liberal myself, I've no problem with that, however, if Accyexplorer had said those exact same words on here, he would be on the receiving end of all sorts of abuse for being a "left wing liberal bleeding heart do-gooder" etc.

Yet there's almost total silence about Jeremy Corbyn having the same attitudes. Go figure.
 
Many people are basically stupid, as believing eastenders @ corry demonstrates, short memories, plus many who weren't even born then.
 
cashman said:
Many people are basically stupid, as believing eastenders @ corry demonstrates, short memories, plus many who weren't even born then.
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OK, take your point on that one, but the examples I've given on Jeremy Corbyn are't press distortion, it's his own quotes (one from his own website).
 
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Wynonie Harris said:
OK, take your point on that one, but the examples I've given on Jeremy Corbyn are't press distortion, it's his own quotes (one from his own website).
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Aye mate but i take the view the young are more likely to vote Corbyn, than owd gits what are sick to the back teeth of all of em. which is why i say yeh just never know.;)
 
Wynonie Harris said:
As for Jeremy Corbyn's quote, it's just that - a quote. It's not a quote that's been distorted or where one word's been taken out of context, it's what he actually said.

Here's another quote taken from his own website:

"Thank you to the Foreign Secretary for giving way. On the subject of refugees, he’s obviously as aware as everyone else is of the massive flow of migrants across the Mediterranean, many of whom thousands have already died also those in the Andaman Sea and elsewhere. There is a global phenomenon of victims of war, poverty and oppression fleeing in desperate circumstances. Does the government have a strategy of supporting refugees, of supporting saving life at sea, rather than repelling people seeking a place of safety?"

So why is Accyexplorer a "do-gooder PC lefty liberal" for saying similar things, yet Jeremy Corbyn isn't?
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Is Corbyn a ‘lefty’…yup…and so am I.

Does Corbyn want to ‘do good’..yup…so do I.

Is he PC..erm…nope…otherwise he wouldn’t be getting the stick he is by the PC media.

I see no evidence that he will open the ‘floodgates’ and allow everyone and his brother into the country…. He’s simply saying we should have a strategy in place for those ‘victims of war, poverty and oppression’..e.g offer shelter and support until it’s safe for them to go back. Isn’t that what you would want for yourself if you had to leave this country if it became war torn? ( I see no mention of ‘economic migrants’ who want to come here because the benefit state pays them a fortune..which incidentally it doesn’t)

‘Saving life at sea’ could mean stopping human trafficking at source.

But hey….twist the words any which way you want, but using the biggest wind up merchant on the forum as an example does zero to add credibility to your argument.

And on ‘undistorted quotes’ would you like me to post some from Cameron, Thatcher, Graham Jones or Ken Moss…

You have an obvious downer on Corbyn……give me an alternative mainstream viewpoint that can’t be ripped to pieces
 
OK, so Cameron uses the word "swarm" and "the PC 'liberal luvvies' go mad" according to you.

Corbyn responds like this, "The anti-foreigner rhetoric and vocabulary being used by the Prime Minister must be challenged head-on." perhaps not exactly going mad, but not too happy at the use of the word "swarm" either. But apparently he's not PC. OK, I'll take your word on that one.

As for the rest of your views on the immigrant/refugee crisis, I agree wholeheartedly with you (although I expect a majority of Accywebbers wouldn't). That's why I said I've no problem with his musings on the subject. I'm a Guardian-reading liberal remember? I'm just making a wry comment on the similarlities between Accyexplorer's and Jeremy's stance.

As for an alternative, I don't have one, but I'm far from convinced of Corbyn's electoral appeal to the British public (although Cashy is doing his best to convince me otherwise, believe me!) and the idea of ten more years of the Tories gives me nightmares. I'm hoping that Corbyn's success concentrates minds in the Labour party, prompting another leadership election sometime in the next five years and the success of a leader who combines honesty with electablity. Corbyn may possess the first quality, but I don't reckon he has the second.

Incidentally, if you think Accyexplorer's "the biggest wind-up merchant on the forum" you ought to come along one day and see Mr Cashman in action on the Clayton End! ;)
 
Wynonie Harris said:
Quotes like: "The anti-foreigner rhetoric and vocabulary being used by the Prime Minister must be challenged head-on."

As a bit of a Guardian-reading liberal myself, I've no problem with that, however, if Accyexplorer had said those exact same words on here, he would be on the receiving end of all sorts of abuse for being a "left wing liberal bleeding heart do-gooder" etc.

Yet there's almost total silence about Jeremy Corbyn having the same attitudes. Go figure.
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Yes Wynn, Corbyn is a left wing liberal, bleeding heart whiner! Happy now? Someone's called him & he's now officially up there with Accy-explorer in the world of AccyWeb. ;)

The thing about Corbyn & our very own Accy-explorer is that they both have opinions, (as do we all) but the circles they move in are worlds apart. In our world we can readily respond & interact with one another, but in the world of the politico, pretty much what Joe & Josephina public says or does has virtually no relevance to them whatsoever, that is until there's an election or similar coming up.

The truth of that can be seen within these very pages, how many politicoes or their mouthpieces have a presence on this site? Yet our day to day opinions & wranglings are of no interest to these "Elite"? that is until they're wanting something, then you can't get shut of 'em, they're there, feeling your pain & sharing your grievances, then the vote's done the dusts settled & there's neither hide nor hair of them. Tucked away in their little lairs until their next time of want.
 
Listen, Dave, I'll have nowt said against Jezza, as something just occurred to me yesterday. On the day his elevation to the Labour Party leadership was announced, Stanley won away at Bristol Rovers and have since gone on their best winning run (apart from one minor hiccup) since 1956. Our lucky mascot? I like to think so.

Viva Corbyn! Onwards to Jeremy at No 10 and League One football! :mosher:
 
Well, I was thinking Alan Johnson, but I'm sure Accywebbers will be only too pleased to tell me plenty of reasons why he isn't! :D
 
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