Vanishing plane

I'm with you, Less. Of course we are all entitled to our own thoughts about this awful mystery but it seems to me that gossipy speculation is what this thread started out as.

It must be absolutely dreadful for the people waiting for news of their loved ones, and all the talk about what might or might not have happened doesn't make it any easier for them.

Let's just hope that the mystery is solved quickly with the best outcome possible which is that all are safe.
 
It's day 4 now, still Nothing,how long do you want to wait to discuss this topic?
What's "wrong" with taking a look at the mystery plane story dominating the headlines?
The (heavy) speculation in the abscence of any evidence is all we can do.

There are so many questions unanswered.
Why the u-turn? Why fly low? Why are the transponders off?
Is it possible for a large airplane to dive into the water without breaking up and go down like a rock, no debris, no trace ,no distress call? I think not.

Anyone fancy watching a movie at mine?
It's called flightplan :eek:
 
Accyexplorer said:
It's day 4 now, still Nothing,how long do you want to wait to discuss this topic?

What's "wrong" with taking a look at the mystery plane story dominating the headlines?

The (heavy) speculation in the abscence of any evidence is all we can do.



There are so many questions unanswered.

Why the u-turn? Why fly low? Why are the transponders off?

Is it possible for a large airplane to dive into the water without breaking up and go down like a rock, no debris, no trace ,no distress call? I think not.



Anyone fancy watching a movie at mine?

It's called flightplan :eek:
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Discussion is one thing, turning it into a conspiracy theory with no respect for the victims, just shows how sick you are.
AccyWeb is not for conspiracies there are plenty of sites out there for such trash.
 
dotti34 said:
I'm with you, Less. Of course we are all entitled to our own thoughts about this awful mystery but it seems to me that gossipy speculation is what this thread started out as.

It must be absolutely dreadful for the people waiting for news of their loved ones, and all the talk about what might or might not have happened doesn't make it any easier for them.

Let's just hope that the mystery is solved quickly with the best outcome possible which is that all are safe.
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That has been my take on this subject from day one.
For the families this is a tragedy, made much worse by the uncertainty.

As for positive outcomes - I think that is very unlikely with each hour that passes.
 
To anyone directly or indirectly effected by this tragedy,I appologse if any of my comments have offended you or have caused you (unintentional) distress.
It was wrong for me to cultivate rumours and fears which are totally unfounded.
I hope they are found soon,although the longer time goes on, I very much doubt a good outcome.

I'll leave this thread alone now :o
 
Accyexplorer said:
this tragedy
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It's not a tragedy ... who knows what it is ... probably an accident caused by mechanical failure or human error ... maybe a terrorist act, altho' if it were, someone or some group would have claimed responsibility by now. Not every event involving loss of life is a "tragedy" ... the word is becoming meaningless ... it's an attention grabber for an overactive media. When everything becomes a tragedy, nothing is tragic. If I were personally involved, if I had lost a friend or loved one on that plane, I sure wouldn't want some shallow talking head like Barbara Bathos or Frankly Unctuous turning my grief into a clown act in the global media circus. Other than being curious about what happened, this tragedy affects me not at all.
 
As usual Eric is a voice of reason, let's try to make sure when discussing such events we work with the facts we have rather than the speculation our imaginations can invent.
That will keep the site and it's members from giving in to cruel gossip no matter what the subject is.
 
Well, Eric....for you it has no effect on your life.

For those who have lost family I am sure their perspective will be different.

I do get where you are coming from when you say that this word means nothing.
That is because it has been hijacked by those who want to sensationalise events - not just this one, but others that the media wring every bit of juice out of by overplaying it.....wall to wall coverage is the norm these days.
 
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Let s not forget, there is a member of this forum who may have friends/work colleagues on that plane.
 
Eric said:
It's not a tragedy ... who knows what it is ... probably an accident caused by mechanical failure or human error ... maybe a terrorist act, altho' if it were, someone or some group would have claimed responsibility by now. Other than being curious about what happened, this tragedy affects me not at all.
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It will however affect us eventually Eric the strange circumstances and what we know to date having focussed attention on identity theft and the established criminal networks supplying forged passports in Kuala Lumpur.
The mystery and that's what it is until the facts emerge this year, next year or whenever has focussed attention on Thailands established trade in faked and stolen travel documents.
Security will be tightened up at most if not all airport passport control gates.
I see queues getting back to those of immediately post 9/11 in the coming weeks and months.
 
Because the media over-use words does this mean that we can no longer use them to say what we mean?
Do we now need to look for words that are not hijacked by the media?
My use of this word was not shallow...it was full of the awareness of the suffering caused by the loss of a loved one in circumstances which have yet to be explained.
 
We'll the aircraft disappearance is certainly a strange one.
However as others have said, due to a lack of facts there is very little to go on.

So until they find the Flight Data Recorder and Cockpit Voice Recorder (Black but really Orange boxes) there will be little to go on.
As I see it there are 3 possibilities

1, the Aircraft suffered a catastrophic failure in flight resulting in loss of communications.
2, the Aircraft was destroyed in flight in a matter of second, bomb etc
3, the Aircraft Transponder and Acars system was turned off and they flew to a secret airport manned by Elvis and Lord Lucan.

Anything we say will be pure speculation, but let's remember that 239 souls most likely have lost their lives
 
Accyexplorer said:
There are so many questions unanswered.
Why the u-turn? Why fly low? Why are the transponders off?
Is it possible for a large airplane to dive into the water without breaking up and go down like a rock, no debris, no trace ,no distress call? I think not.

Anyone fancy watching a movie at mine?
It's called flightplan :eek:
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U turn..... Let's wait and see, ATC would know why that happened, if it did.
Fly low, who knows, but there is no evidence of this.
Transponder, all is known is it stopped sqwarking.
The Aircraft breaking up, we'll have a look at Valuejet flight 592, when you hit something at 500mph nose first there tends not to be much left.
You found any proof?
 
So there we are! The response from a man who has a far better insight into civil aviation than the majority of us, worth a listen as the Lads' got learning.
 
Margaret Pilkington said:
Well, Eric....for you it has no effect on your life.

For those who have lost family I am sure their perspective will be different.

I do get where you are coming from when you say that this word means nothing.
That is because it has been hijacked by those who want to sensationalise events - not just this one, but others that the media wring every bit of juice out of by overplaying it.....wall to wall coverage is the norm these days.
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I'm not completely insensitive. I remember other "tragedies" ... the fairly recent one in Haiti, for example ... I donated what cash I could spare (generously matched dollar for dollar by the Canadian government). I did it not in some vain attempt to assuage the grief of the survivors, but for practical things: medical supplies, clean drinking water, shelter, food for empty bellies. There's nothing I can do about grief. That's personal. When we have cause to grieve, we do it in our hearts, in our souls ... and in private or with those close to us. It irks me when I see it, as you say, "hijacked" for sensationalism, ratings, and, yes, profits. If I were waiting in vain at an airport for someone who would never arrive, I wouldn't want some asshole sticking a camera in my face to record my tears, or a mic up to my mouth so that I could tell the world how I felt.
 
Eric, you know that I know you are not insensitive...and if it came across that that is what I was saying then I apologise.
I know that someone who gives food to stray animals...finds them a home in his heart cannot possibly be insensitive.

Neither would I want some media bod standing on my grief.

It is easy for me to say that I know how they are feeling, but in truth no-one really does...we can only approximate their feelings with the sadnesses we might endured in our own lives. Empathy covers it.
 
Boeing Guy said:
As I see it there are 3 possibilities

1, the Aircraft suffered a catastrophic failure in flight resulting in loss of communications.
2, the Aircraft was destroyed in flight in a matter of second, bomb etc
3, the Aircraft Transponder and Acars system was turned off and they flew to a secret airport manned by Elvis and Lord Lucan.

Anything we say will be pure speculation, but let's remember that 239 souls most likely have lost their lives
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Although No3 sounds the most probable out of that bunch,I don't think it's any of the things you mention IMHO.
 
Boeing Guy said:
U turn..... Let's wait and see, ATC would know why that happened, if it did.
Fly low, who knows, but there is no evidence of this.
Transponder, all is known is it stopped sqwarking.
The Aircraft breaking up, we'll have a look at Valuejet flight 592, when you hit something at 500mph nose first there tends not to be much left.
You found any proof?
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No proof, pure spec but you could hit anything with a plane at 500mph an there would be something left I know the ocean massive,but do you honestly think they'd find nothing if it broke up and that was the case?
I'm not being clever,I'm genuinely curious.
 
Accyexplorer said:
Looks like your on your own less (unless your counting the chip on your shoulder) ;).

I will shut up though,since you asked so nicely.
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Well, if we ignore my shoulder and it's extra weight, I think today with it's posts prove we as a site, don't need any form of conspiracy, we just want to discuss the facts in a sane and humane manner, hopefully you can live with that and post with a similar ideal in mind.

Thank you.

Well, I posted this too late, idiot still trying not to make himself small...



...and failing.
 
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