Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1055829)

I can only assume that gents who prefer virgins are the ones whose technique is so abysmal that they do not want to be compared unfavourably with others who 'came' (sorry - pun :rolleyes:) before them.

There is a trend amongst younger men to prefer older women (cougars) who can teach them the ropes.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1055833)

Ah but i didn't say i prefer em, but i do like the novelty which around here it certainly is.:D

Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 1055827)

Was just a bit of gentle fun...but since you opened the can..

Wogan (who himself is a lightweight 'luvvie' interviewer and really should be taken with a pinch of salt), apologised for publicly taking the mick, not for disbelieving him.

Hitler filled halls and stadia, so did Take That, the Spice Girls and Justin Bieber are you seriously trying to argue that because someone can fill a stadium it means they have something worthwhile to say? :eek:
He's charismatic and knows how to work an audience..this does not mean that he has anything worthwhile to say, it just means that he knows how to get applause and the occasional cheer...then again so can an average comedian at a dingy working mens club on a saturday night.

Who am I to say....I'm a free thinker who uses logic and rationality, as opposed to the muppets and sheep who blindly hang on to his every word...which is kinda ironic since he himself claims anyone who doesn't agree with him are sheep following the populist ideals.

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1055829)

There is a trend amongst younger men to prefer older women (cougars) who can teach them the ropes.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1055791)

Wish someone could explain to me,what or how can yeh have a "Virgin Birth"?:confused:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1055801)

What makes me smile more than anything is this thing that Muslim martyrs believe, that killing themselves in the name of Allah, the reward is 72 virgins and Rivers of honey, that should tell any would be candidates its a bit of a misnomer especially the 72 virgins bit:D

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 1055855)

I don't think anyone can explain it to you , Cashman .

By demonstration I can explain to you how a creature from the sea and vegetables out of the earth can become a plate of fish and chips with mushy peas .

It will take some time and patience for someone to explain to me how by the click of a button this post within an instant is going to be able to be read throughout most of the world . My technology skills and scientific knowledge are so poor that it will take a very patient and skillful teacher to explain it to me , but I think that it can be done .

As for the Virgin Birth of Jesus , we are in a totally different realm which is outside of our normal contexts of space and time . And there is so much that has to be presupposed before a start can be made in explaining it , and the explanation will be in a language more akin to poetry than prose . Jesus said : " I am the truth . " If that basic presupposition is not accepted , then any explanation is not going to be possible .

In the words of C.S. Lewis : " A man who said the sort of things Jesus said , well this man is the Son of God , or else a madman , or something worse . You must make your choice . "

So it comes down to one's own convictions , and many within Christianity accept much of what they see as the truth of Jesus , but they will argue about things such as the Virgin Birth , certain miracles etc. So it can be complicated or for some quite simple . I envy the latter . I am one who has to question everything , who believes an element of agnosticism is no bad thing , and it can be a struggle . But in the end I keep coming back to certain convictions and make the choice to believe . That's when the real battle begins because I have then to live by the challenges my beliefs put before me , or be a hypocrite .

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 1055855)

I don't think anyone can explain it to you , Cashman .


So it comes down to one's own convictions , and many within Christianity accept much of what they see as the truth of Jesus , but they will argue about things such as the Virgin Birth , certain miracles etc. So it can be complicated or for some quite simple . I envy the latter . I am one who has to question everything , who believes an element of agnosticism is no bad thing , and it can be a struggle . But in the end I keep coming back to certain convictions and make the choice to believe . That's when the real battle begins because I have then to live by the challenges my beliefs put before me , or be a hypocrite .

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1055873)

I just don't believe it! Why bother having a birth at all? If god sent down his only "son" then why bother coming through a womans body? Why not just manifest with out that hassle of sitting in a womb for 9 months or what ever length of time he was supposed to be in it for?

You can try and explain this from a scientific point of view if you can seriously believe this or just accept the concept is ridiculous.

It is easy to explain how fish and chips got to be fish and chips - as it is to explain the "so-called" virgin birth.

Fact is when Millions of people believe in a load of fantasy then you get these people blowing themselves up and doing nasty things to others in the name of their "illusionary" gods.

Originally Posted by westendlass (Post 1055836)

Wii, After watching the Wigan clip of David Icke I think I'm now a Belieber !!

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1055857)

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1055877)

One word......Faith.......believing the unbelievable(which, those who have no faith, will refer to as fantasy).
Man is arrogant to think he can explain away everything by scientific methods.......faith defies science.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1055801)

What makes me smile more than anything is this thing that Muslim martyrs believe, that killing themselves in the name of Allah, the reward is 72 virgins and Rivers of honey, that should tell any would be candidates its a bit of a misnomer especially the 72 virgins bit:D

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1055873)

I just don't believe it! Why bother having a birth at all? If god sent down his only "son" then why bother coming through a womans body? Why not just manifest with out that hassle of sitting in a womb for 9 months or what ever length of time he was supposed to be in it for?