Originally Posted by davemac (Post 1054234)

Just a slight interjection with regard to the bible. At the start of the thread the bible was held up to be the word of god, it is far from that, it is in fact comprised of contributions from 40 authors.

The bible came into existence when the council of Nicaea set about compiling gospels to unite the Christians with a single book. Emperor Constantine (274-337) (emperor from 306-337) ordered it to search out and include all the gospels that supported and professed to be the word of god. Its interesting that the gospel according to Judas wasn't included.

So the bible is 66 gospels by 40 authors, compiled and turned into one book in the year 325 ad, that is 325 years after the man called Jesus was walking the earth. So it is not the word of god, but the word of 40 people who wrote gospels over a period of 1500 years, hence the old and new testaments.

I write this not to say definitively whether god exists or not, just to correct the statement that the bible is the word of god, and if people knock on your door saying it is, then they are starting with a lie.

Right thats all I can manage for now, all this serious stuff gives me a bout of giddiness

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1054301)

question I ask my dad and then he asks the rather silly question about the chicken/egg

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1054321)

At this stage you usually go and lie down in a dark room Dave:D

Originally Posted by davemac (Post 1054260)

. Well who made god ?

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1054365)

In the churning, bubbling, seething, mass which was the primordial soup of life, the early pondlife ganged up together to produce the first proto-amphibian, who decided that swilling round in your own muck was pretty yucky & as such growing a pair of legs & getting out of the gloop seemed like a damned fine idea.

So it came to be that the first homunculus set foot on solid ground, going forth & meeting other like minded homunculi & thereby forming loose social groups to better advance their cause, proliferate the species, exchange ideas & just generally evolve (all the while staying dry & far from the cess pool that spawned them) .

As with any gathering tales are told & myths exchanged & when asked about origin rather that admit to being the result of pond life getting a life so to speak, an omnipresent & omnipotent super being was credited as being the source of all creation. Thereby early man was learning to pass the buck & inaugurate the rise of the political classes, leaving behind those less inclined to lies & perfidy to become the common folk (which by the way are further sub divided into other groups, but that is a lecture for another day.) ;)


Did this answer help you? :)

Originally Posted by davemac (Post 1054260)

A question they wont or can't answer, when they say, in the beginning there was nothing, and god made the heaven and the earth. Well who made god ?

Originally Posted by davemac (Post 1054374)

It wasn't really a question I wanted and answer to,

That's good Dave, because I had no intention of seriously answering. :D

But I like the thoery that I started my journey as glob of goo.

Originally Posted by davemac (Post 1054374)

But I like the thoery that I started my journey as glob of goo.

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1054378)

When you think about it that's pretty much how you'll end it as well.

Originally Posted by davemac (Post 1054340)

If you ask that question then you haven't understood evolution, but that is a whole new thread.

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1054382)

Evolution explains it, but how did the potential for evolution come into place - how did that come about - there are massive gaps in our knowledge about this? Some Christians believed that the earth was created by the Devil and it was the devil who created sex and animals and so on - and the way to get back to god was to thrash yourself on a daily basis.

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1054382)

the way to get back to god was to thrash yourself on a daily basis.

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1054382)

the way to get back to god was to thrash yourself on a daily basis.

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1054390)

If there's ever a day you don't feel up to it give me a shout- I'll gladly help out.

Originally Posted by davemac (Post 1054374)

Emperor Constantine, who was Roman, started the foundation for religion and its teachings that are present today, and it is no surprise that the Roman empire did not cease to exist, it merely morphed into the Catholic Church.
But I like the thoery that I started my journey as glob of goo.