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garinda 26-08-2011 16:26

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I'd think it good if prisoners had to cycle for eight hours a day on exercise bikes, providing power for the National Grid, if they wanted anything other than gruel.

:rolleyes::D

Less 26-08-2011 16:32

I know that your main objection to wind farms is that they don't come in pastille colours, I didn't elaborate on that either.
Germans are building these things because we haven't the infra structure to do it ourselves, a shame, in fact, an absolute disgrace, but I am really glad someone is doing it.

garinda 26-08-2011 16:53

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 929114)
I know that your main objection to wind farms is that they don't come in pastille colours, I didn't elaborate on that either.
Germans are building these things because we haven't the infra structure to do it ourselves, a shame, in fact, an absolute disgrace, but I am really glad someone is doing it.

My main objection isn't aesthetic.

I whole heartedly support renewable energy.

I think it much more preferable if it was British companies that were profiting, and that hydro-electric energy is less damaging to the environment.

Oh, and I'd think it 'good' if they rolled out the pedalling prisoner scheme to the work-shy.

:)

garinda 27-08-2011 00:18

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 929121)
I whole heartedly support renewable energy.

Mainly because I've experienced the benefits.

It was fun growing up in a house which still had electricity, generated from wind power, whilst every other house in the county was plunged into darkness, caused by the power cuts in the seventies.

Hell, even the swimming pool my dad built was heated by solar panels.

So, I know the positives, yet still dislike the gigantic German owned wind farms, springing up all over our countryside, that have a negative impact on the environment.

That, I think, isn't so good.

garinda 27-08-2011 00:24

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Another negative.

The energy that powers these windmills isn't a constant.

Unlike the hydro-electricity which could be generated by tidal power, which is a constant, around the 11,000+ miles of our mainland coast.

steeljack 27-08-2011 02:37

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 929290)
Another negative.

The energy that powers these windmills isn't a constant.

Unlike the hydro-electricity which could be generated by tidal power, which is a constant, around the 11,000+ miles of our mainland coast.

Not to sure about 'tidal' being a constant , granted high tide happens approximatley twice a day , but don't think the volume of water moved is a constant , even the Severn Bore only runs at 'full blast' a few times of the year ,.... not sure when we get the biggest tides, full moon or new moon but you can be sure it wil probably work out the street lamps will shine during a full moon and be dimmed on a moonless nights . Happen a "Dam" or even better a compacted landfill project across the Ribble estuary (Southport to St.Annes ) would be the place to test tidal power , or an even simplar solution modify/add reversible turbines to the Thames Barrier structure , many of the loudest 'greenies' seem to live in London , let them be the canaries down the coalmine ;) :D :D

steeljack 27-08-2011 02:44

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 929290)
11,000+ miles of our mainland coast.

not being 'picky' but shouldn't that read "11,000+ miles of our island coast" Europe being the mainland ;)

:flamethro :hidewall: :whip:

garinda 27-08-2011 07:33

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 929296)
not being 'picky' but shouldn't that read "11,000+ miles of our island coast" Europe being the mainland ;)

:flamethro :hidewall: :whip:

Feel free.

Be picky.

What I posted was correct.

Sod Europe being our mainland.

We are an island nation.

The British Isles.

Only counting the mainland, our coastline is 11,073 miles in length.

If the larger islands are included, this increases the length to 19,491 miles.

;)

Our tides are constantly moving.

Any movement can be harvested to generate energy.

These generators could be floating, to capture this movement.

The energy created just from the mouth of Morecambe Bay could power much of the north west.

The fact that hydro-electricity is mainly being ignored, isn't good, in my opinion.

steeljack 27-08-2011 08:10

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 929314)
Feel free.

Be picky.

What I posted was correct.

Sod Europe being our mainland.

We are an island nation.

The British Isles.

Only counting the mainland, our coastline is 11,073 miles in length.

If the larger islands are included, this increases the length to 19,491 miles.

;)

Our tides are constantly moving.

Any movement can be harvested to generate energy.

These generators could be floating, to capture this movement.

The energy created just from the mouth of Morecambe Bay could power much of the north west.

The fact that hydro-electricity is mainly being ignored, isn't good, in my opinion.


so wheres your argument abut a Severn Bore barrier or the Thames thingy ...sorry its late night here ;)

garinda 27-08-2011 08:20

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 929323)
so wheres your argument abut a Severn Bore barrier or the Thames thingy ...sorry its late night here ;)

No where, because I think they should be being used to generate power.

:)

steeljack 27-08-2011 08:33

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 929326)
No where, because I think they should be being used to generate power.

:)

why would you want to stop your 'Goddess' the most blessed Harriet Harmon from surfing the Severn Bore up to Bistol , thats if she can get her fat ass vertical on a surfboard ..........
got to love the quote from another thread ,,, she's got an ass like a circus elephant ... seems to sum up labour wimen :D ;)

jaysay 27-08-2011 08:43

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 929328)
why would you want to stop your 'Goddess' the most blessed Harriet Harmon from surfing the Severn Bore up to Bistol , thats if she can get her fat ass vertical on a surfboard ..........
got to love the quote from another thread ,,, she's got an ass like a circus elephant ... seems to sum up labour wimen :D ;)

That's no way to talk about Hapless Harriet, she already has her cross and torch to carry :rolleyes::D

garinda 27-08-2011 08:58

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 929331)
That's no way to talk about Hapless Harriet, she already has her cross and torch to carry :rolleyes::D

Yes, the old torch the Conservatives used to have.

Until they ditched it, in favour of the new Tory Lite emblem, of the hoodie hugger.

;)

Margaret Pilkington 27-08-2011 18:49

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Like you G, I feel that tidal energy would be much more sensible.
I am not against green energy, but I am against being brainwashed to accept these hideous monstrosities blighting our land, and us having the idea that we must accept them because they are eco friendly........I have a Royle-ism answer to that theory.
These wind farms are not efficient....and the wind isn't always blowing....and if it blows above a certain level they turn the damned things off(or at least that is what I have read).
The water around our island is forever moving...movement causes energy...energy which we could and should harvest.
Sewage also produces energy...we should use that too.

mobertol 29-08-2011 14:55

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[quote=garinda;929289]
"It was fun growing up in a house which still had electricity, generated from wind power, whilst every other house in the county was plunged into darkness, caused by the power cuts in the seventies.

Hell, even the swimming pool my dad built was heated by solar panels."

Swimming about in a heated pool! We were having great fun sitting round the kitchen table in candle light and playing cards with our coats on to keep warm -you don't know what you were missing;):D


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