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Economy seven does not store electricity. Coal fired power stations can't be switched off quickly so there is often an excess of power at night so they encourage people to use more at night and less during the day by selling it to you cheaper. You pre heat storage heaters and hot water cylinders at night and use that heat and hot water during the day.

Storage heaters have always been rubbish in my opinion, I have lived in a few houses with them.

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That's not storing electricity- it's storing water so you can use it to generate part of the electricity you used to pump it back up in the first place.
They don't have 'spare' power- they buy cheap electricity at night rates from conventional power stations to pump the water up and sell electricity to the grid during the day when it's needed at higher rates- that's how they pay for themselves.

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fossil fuel is dead!

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couldnt decide on either of these resposes so posting both

response 1: lol

response 2 : thanks to thatcher

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Wireless electricity - would have been free, but Nikola Teslas's sponsor withdrew financial support for the invention because "where would we put the meter?".:rolleyes:


Free electricity is not compatible with our present capitalist system (based on oil/gas)
Nikola Tesla - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This video is long and very technical - the mention of free wireless electricity is at about 24 to 27 minutes in the video.
Nikola Tesla - The Untold Story - YouTube


PS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_energy_suppression

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Hydrogen power = produces water as an exhaust product

BBC World Service - Business Daily, Hydrogen- fuel of the future?

But it has its own difficulties...

BBC News - Hydrogen's energy promise improves

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So how do you get to your favourite walks? Ah, you must walk it or cycle it!
No? So fossil fuel is a long way off dead for you.


Come on susie- you're a scientist. You know full well cheap and freely available hydrogen power is decades off. We can use it to produce power but we can't make it without using far more power than we get back. And how do we make it- break down water using- guess what!
Methane- it's only 12% hydrogen, needs expensive processing and what do you do with the 88% global warming gas you're left with.

Green campaigners are deluding themselves and condemning the rest of us. They're condemning us to less energy, more expensive energy, the loss of all power hungry industry in the UK and a massive drop in our living standards.
China is opening 2 new coal fired power stations every week and they all burn the poorest, lowest grade, most polluting coal(bituminous) available.
India plans another 450+ as soon as possible.
We only have 17 large coal fired stations and we are closing them. China will have replaced them in 2 months.
Do you think our pitiful 20% efficient wind turbines are going to make a jot of difference to that sort of CO2 output?

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Of course I do, I was merely putting it up for Margaret to look at.

No but it's better to do something than nothing. I wish the powers that be would get their act together and get on with nuclear and tidal otherwise the future is pretty bleak.

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You didn't understand the video, even if you watched it:(

He generated it too.

PS http://www.damninteresting.com/teslas-tower-of-power/

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Well, that explains it then....I have never lived in a house which had this kind of heating, but when I was working I had colleagues who used this form of heating.

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No...Sue....I don't think it was that.......it was water under pressure(I wish now that I had paid a bit more attention - but I was pre-occupied with other things, namely tinlids) and it was someone who had done all the work on it in his garden shed......a lone genius.
I'm sure I didn't dream it.

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No, MargaretR, I didn't watch all the video, life is too short.
But I watched minute 23 to 29 and used up a large piece of what's left of my life reading the Wikipedia info.
A brillliant man but some of his ideas very far out.
If you watch that bit of the video again it's talking about transmitting massive amounts of power wirelessly from the mast, not generating it. It never claims he created power from the earth- all the power he generated came from-guess what, mains electric power or mechanically driven generators.

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Here's some water fuel ideas...

List of water fuel inventions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This one's a fraud...

Stanley Meyer's water fuel cell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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He claimed that it was possible to tap scalar energy from the ionosphere

Nikola Tesla - Wardenclyffe Tower - YouTube

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Sue the story I am talking about is as recent as last year....but I'm damned if I can find anything out about it......mainly because I didn't pay enough attention at the time it was on TV....and No, it wasn't April !st last year:)