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jambutty 26-09-2007 20:48
Re: It Pays To Complain.
 
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Originally Posted by davo69 (Post 474564)
i rest my case
A lost case!:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

davo69 26-09-2007 20:50
Re: It Pays To Complain.
 
yes for you shame

jambutty 26-09-2007 20:55
Re: It Pays To Complain.
 
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Originally Posted by davo69 (Post 474569)
read miss use off badge holders
I have read it.

“If you are a badge holder, it can only be used for your benefit. If a trip is for someone else and you are a passenger and staying in the vehicle, you cannot use the badge simply to let them benefit from free parking.”

I’d like to see someone prove that.

What about, “I took xxxxx out for a ride to get him out of the house for a while and he asked me to call in at xxxx and get him a bag of sweets etc.”

WillowTheWhisp 26-09-2007 20:56
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I understand what you mean. A disabled driver who quite legitimately holds a blue badge is abusing the system if he/she parks in a disabled parking bay purely in order to allow an able bodied person to get out and go shopping and the disabled person stays in the car until the able bodied person comes back. That is not being done for the benefit of the disabled person and they should not have parked there morally even if by a technical loophole it was argued that they are parking there legally.

Lilly 26-09-2007 20:57
Re: It Pays To Complain.
 
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Originally Posted by davo69 (Post 474568)
wrong the rules
If you are a badge holder, it can only be used for your benefit. If a trip is for someone else and you are a passenger and staying in the vehicle, you cannot use the badge simply to let them benefit from free parking.
As long as the car is being used on a trip for the disabled person's benefit it does not matter whether the disabled gets out of the car or not.

Example

Able bodied daughter takes disabled mother to Asda to get disabled mother's weekly shopping. She parks in disabled bay, displays blue badge, she enters Asda, mother stays in car. This is not wrong.

However

Able bodied daughter decides she would like to buy a new top for a night out so decides to go into town. Doesn't fancy driving round looking for a parking space so takes disabled mother who is clutching her blue badge along with her. Parks in disabled bay, displays blue badge, mother stays in car, daughter pops to the shops. This is wrong.

Do you see the difference?

davo69 26-09-2007 20:59
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you should be a shamed why would you want to syop some one with mobilitie problems from getting close just so you get free parking and let your able bodied person get close you are wrong and should admit it never mind prove it .if a warden came up to you and asked why are you in the car and you said i have dropped some one off to shop you would be booked

davo69 26-09-2007 21:02
Re: It Pays To Complain.
 
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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 474575)
As long as the car is being used on a trip for the disabled person's benefit it does not matter whether the disabled gets out of the car or not.

Example

Able bodied daughter takes disabled mother to Asda to get disabled mother's weekly shopping. She parks in disabled bay, displays blue badge, she enters Asda, mother stays in car. This is not wrong.

However

Able bodied daughter decides she would like to buy a new top for a night out so decides to go into town. Doesn't fancy driving round looking for a parking space so takes disabled mother who is clutching her blue badge along with her. Parks in disabled bay, displays blue badge, mother stays in car, daughter pops to the shops. This is wrong.

Do you see the difference?
no you are totaly wrong the parking is for disabled people to be able to get close enoughty to walk not to let lazy able bodie to have it easey

WillowTheWhisp 26-09-2007 21:02
Re: It Pays To Complain.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 474575)

Example

Able bodied daughter takes disabled mother to Asda to get disabled mother's weekly shopping. She parks in disabled bay, displays blue badge, she enters Asda, mother stays in car. This is not wrong.
Why isn't it wrong? The disabled mother doesn't need to be near the supermarket i order for her able bodied daughter to nip in and do the shopping for her.

davo69 26-09-2007 21:04
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first row in parking should be for disabled people who have mobilitie problems second row should be for perants with kids young ones under 6 in my opinion

Lilly 26-09-2007 21:10
Re: It Pays To Complain.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by davo69 (Post 474576)
you should be a shamed why would you want to syop some one with mobilitie problems from getting close just so you get free parking and let your able bodied person get close you are wrong and should admit it never mind prove it .if a warden came up to you and asked why are you in the car and you said i have dropped some one off to shop you would be booked
Are you talking to me? I have no reason to be ashamed. I'm not disabled so I don't even have a blue badge let alone abuse one. It would appear that you disagree with the rules concerning these blue badges, well I'm sorry but I don't make the rules. Whether you like it or not, I would not be booked if I took a disabled relative shopping (for her benefit of course) and parked in a bay using her blue badge.

jambutty 26-09-2007 21:10
Re: It Pays To Complain.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by davo69 (Post 474576)
you should be a shamed why would you want to syop some one with mobilitie problems from getting close just so you get free parking and let your able bodied person get close you are wrong and should admit it never mind prove it .if a warden came up to you and asked why are you in the car and you said i have dropped some one off to shop you would be booked
You are splitting hairs to try and prove your case.

The bottom line is that it would be almost impossible to prove that the badge holder is using the badge to take people shopping. Although I agree that if that was the case it would be wrong.

flashy 26-09-2007 21:12
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why have we got 2 threads in one? i'm sure JB did a seperate thread about this...didnt he??

Lilly 26-09-2007 21:12
Re: It Pays To Complain.
 
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 474578)
Why isn't it wrong? The disabled mother doesn't need to be near the supermarket i order for her able bodied daughter to nip in and do the shopping for her.
As I said to Davo69, I don't make the rules. When I say it isn't wrong I mean you would not be breaking the rules of the blue badge scheme. Those are the rules.

davo69 26-09-2007 21:14
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not hard to prove if you are the badge holder sat on your ass and a parking warden asked what are you doing and you say letting my helper go shopping because it saves them walking people who exploit the system should be find and lose there benefit for taking the ****.why dont you admit you are wrong

BERNADETTE 26-09-2007 21:15
Re: It Pays To Complain.
 
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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 474586)
why have we got 2 threads in one? i'm sure JB did a seperate thread about this...didnt he??
Your right the debate has just moved threads:confused::confused::confused:


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