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flashy 26-09-2007 21:16
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...oh my..

davo69 26-09-2007 21:16
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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 474587)
As I said to Davo69, I don't make the rules. When I say it isn't wrong I mean you would not be breaking the rules of the blue badge scheme. Those are the rules.
no the blue badge rules if you bother to read them say the badge cant be yoused to help able bodied people

WillowTheWhisp 26-09-2007 21:22
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If a blue badge holder uses it on behalf of an able bodied person they run the risk of having the badge taken from them.

Stanaccy 26-09-2007 21:26
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As I said on the other thread

Why if you are just giving somebody a lift should a disabled badge holder be allowed to take up a place reserved for somebody who is getting out and shopping in the store, and may have difficulty walking to the spot they have been forced to use, because of the individual's selfish action. That is no different than a disabled badge carrying taxi driver using it when s/he is dropping off a fare and then waiting for the next fare.

This is not jealousy this is annoyance at people who may be using the service as specified in the law, but not using it in the spirit intended.


Davo has made a good point. I see it happen in my local co-op where there are only 6 bays, yes they are abused by other able bodied people but when disability badge users abuse the spirit of the scheme themselves, they are guilty of hipocrisy when they complain about it.

Lilly 26-09-2007 21:26
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Originally Posted by davo69 (Post 474592)
no the blue badge rules if you bother to read them say the badge cant be yoused to help able bodied people
I have never said that they could.:confused: You seemed to think that a crime was being committed if a badge was displayed and the disabled person stayed in the car whilst their relative went and got their shopping for them. This is not a crime. This is not against the rules. I haven't said whether I agree with the rules or not but that's the way it is.

It is a crime to use a badge on a trip that is not benefitting the disabled i.e to get your own shopping in. As has already been said by someone else, I agree that this would be quite difficult to prove and is open to abuse. I agree that this is wrong.

jambutty 26-09-2007 21:27
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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 474586)
why have we got 2 threads in one? i'm sure JB did a seperate thread about this...didnt he??
Blame davo69. He started the disabled discussion with, “iam going to complain next time i see a disable drive drop a able bodie person off and take up a disabled bay making a disabled person walk because there are no disabled bays left because of people exploiting there blue badge” in post #19.

davo69 26-09-2007 21:29
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iam going to say my last words my dad was a cripple before he died but would still love to do things for himself he would make shore he went shops for bread milk papers but many times he would wait or argue with badge holders because they would sit there taking up a place because they didnt get out of the car and had a abled bodied person with them these places should be yoused for people who cant walk far not to make life easeyer for able people any disabled person who parks in these places for no reason should take a good look at them selfs and think a bit more

Mr Aleks 26-09-2007 21:34
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 474600)
Blame davo69. He started.....
Stop sounding like a 8 year old. He started it!!!

jambutty 26-09-2007 21:34
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Originally Posted by davo69 (Post 474592)
no the blue badge rules if you bother to read them say the badge cant be yoused to help able bodied people
As I said earlier it would be all but impossible to prove that the Blue Badge is being abused in the way you keep arguing about.

You are just arguing for arguments sake because you are miffed because some people have an advantage denied you and you are envious.

So give it a rest.

Mr Aleks 26-09-2007 21:36
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 474609)
As I said earlier it would be all but impossible to prove that the Blue Badge is being abused in the way you keep arguing about.

You are just arguing for arguments sake because you are miffed because some people have an advantage denied you and you are envious.

So give it a rest.
Yes im sure he would love to be disabled to get a better parking space.

Stanaccy 26-09-2007 21:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 474609)
As I said earlier it would be all but impossible to prove that the Blue Badge is being abused in the way you keep arguing about.

You are just arguing for arguments sake because you are miffed because some people have an advantage denied you and you are envious.

So give it a rest.

Why would anyone be jealous of a pass that just allows you to park 10 yards closer to the local store?

What he is complaining about is people abusing the spirit of the scheme. Yes you may be using it within the law but it certainly isn't being used as it was meant to be.

jambutty 26-09-2007 21:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanaccy (Post 474598)
As I said on the other thread

Why if you are just giving somebody a lift should a disabled badge holder be allowed to take up a place reserved for somebody who is getting out and shopping in the store, and may have difficulty walking to the spot they have been forced to use, because of the individual's selfish action. That is no different than a disabled badge carrying taxi driver using it when s/he is dropping off a fare and then waiting for the next fare.

This is not jealousy this is annoyance at people who may be using the service as specified in the law, but not using it in the spirit intended.


Davo has made a good point. I see it happen in my local co-op where there are only 6 bays, yes they are abused by other able bodied people but when disability badge users abuse the spirit of the scheme themselves, they are guilty of hipocrisy when they complain about it.
Now that’s an interesting point. A taxi driver with a disabled badge. Nothing wrong in that because the badge is awarded because of walking difficulties. But the badge holder is earning a living by driving a taxi so his daily activity is for his own benefit so he could park up whilst waiting for a fare.

It is amazing how many people seem to KNOW how other people are behaving just by looking at them. So you see an able bodied person jump out of a car parked in a disabled bay leaving a disabled person behind and jump to all sorts of conclusions, when in fact you know diddly squat.

Lilly 26-09-2007 21:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aleks (Post 474611)
Yes im sure he would love to be disabled to get a better parking space.
I'm sure that no-one would want to be disabled but I think that some people begrudge the disabled getting what they are entitled to. Some people can't bear to see others get special treatment. It's not so much that a person would want to be disabled to get a badge but they don't want anyone else to have them either. It's the same old story with lots of other things, benefits, exemptions etc. all under scrutiny to see if we can weed out a fraudster. All very well and good and I abhor anyone cheating the system but it does make the genuine claimants feel under pressure to prove themselves over and over. Remembering too that not all disablities can be seen so it's easy to make a mistake.

jambutty 26-09-2007 21:47
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Originally Posted by Aleks (Post 474611)
Yes im sure he would love to be disabled to get a better parking space.
I didn’t say that.

So kindly don’t put words into my mouth.

Mr Aleks 26-09-2007 21:47
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Hey thats fine i know. If someone is disabled then thats fine by me. I dont see it as special treatment myself but others may do...

buttyman hush now lad its for the best i feel...


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