£350,000 classroom - Page 3

Tealeaf · 03-11-2010, 20:04

Err..this is a PFI project. There's more than a little journalistic licence and Google Page Ranking opportunity gone into this. I doubt if 350 grand will be the final bill - more like a million when it's paid for after 25 years or so.

Financial Close for Phase III of Lancashire BSF :

Neil · 03-11-2010, 20:08

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Err..this is a PFI project.

Is that the same thing as The Royal Blackburn Hospital?

lancsdave · 03-11-2010, 20:09

I thought education spending was a county council issue or government issue ?

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Funding of £20,000 from Hyndburn Borough Council has been secured.

Tealeaf · 03-11-2010, 20:13

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Originally Posted by Neil

Is that the same thing as The Royal Blackburn Hospital?

Yeah.

lancsdave · 03-11-2010, 20:15

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Originally Posted by Neil

Is that the same thing as The Royal Blackburn Hospital?

You mean if one of the kids get injured they have to wait 6 hours for first aid ?

Neil · 03-11-2010, 20:22

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

You mean if one of the kids get injured they have to wait 6 hours for first aid ?

I know one of the 1st aiders and that's not what happens

Tealeaf · 03-11-2010, 20:29

Ooops...here's a first. I'm wrong. The Accy Academy is Design & Construct only, although it was part of a wider package involving PFI for Lancashire schools. It still works out pretty expensive, though.

Time to get back on to the Pinot Grigio.

Ken Moss · 03-11-2010, 22:04

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

You have missed out the word "Discuss"
I suggest you widen your horizons, building houses from straw bales is becoming quite popular in Europe, and are proving to have very good insulation properties.
Who are you to say that this is a waste of money?
If any benefit can be gained from utilising any of the methods stated then I say well done.
Get a life Ken and find something else to do except slag PB and the Tories - IMHO you are typical of all opposition politicians. Criticise the party in power but never let on what you are prepared to do.
You may not realise it but you are fast becoming a pain in the posterior, for many people.

Your distaste for me has already been noted, Barrie. That is certainly nothing new.

I couldn't be more blatant about what I would be prepared to do and in another thread today I have stated how I would happily risk disfavour among the few by making ruthless cuts for the benefit of the many.

I have not used the word 'waste' with regard to this classroom project, all I have said is that is sounds like rather expensive and I would be interested to see the long term cost comparisons. By all accounts the majority of the money is coming from the private sector anyway but it still doesn't alter my curiosity.

If I am becoming a pain in the backside to 'many' people then so be it. I did not become a councillor to be everybody's best friend, I became a councillor to do the best for the borough and as far as I can see that partly involves making sure the voters get value for money.

You may agree with money is spent in Hyndburn and I'm clearly not going to change your mind but until the balance of power shifts then I am by definition likely to be 'opposed' to it.

Discuss.

jaysay · 04-11-2010, 09:36

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Originally Posted by Neil

Is that the same thing as The Royal Blackburn Hospital?

Ya Neil The Private Finance Initiative, I thought it was the first steps to privatise the NHS, but it was introduced my a Labour Government

So it couldn't possibly be, could it

Tealeaf · 04-11-2010, 10:31

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Ya Neil The Private Finance Initiative, I thought it was the first steps to privatise the NHS, but it was introduced my a Labour Government

So it couldn't possibly be, could it

Wrong, Jaysay. PFI was introduced by the Tories back in the early '90s. At the time, it was opposed by Labour but once in office they took to it with gusto.

jaysay · 04-11-2010, 10:33

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Wrong, Jaysay. PFI was introduced by the Tories back in the early '90s. At the time, it was opposed by Labour but once in office they took to it with gusto.

Ya far more gusto than the Tories ever intended,

Barrie Yates · 04-11-2010, 23:17

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Your distaste for me has already been noted, Barrie. That is certainly nothing new.

I couldn't be more blatant about what I would be prepared to do and in another thread today I have stated how I would happily risk disfavour among the few by making ruthless cuts for the benefit of the many.

I have not used the word 'waste' with regard to this classroom project, all I have said is that is sounds like rather expensive and I would be interested to see the long term cost comparisons. By all accounts the majority of the money is coming from the private sector anyway but it still doesn't alter my curiosity.

If I am becoming a pain in the backside to 'many' people then so be it. I did not become a councillor to be everybody's best friend, I became a councillor to do the best for the borough and as far as I can see that partly involves making sure the voters get value for money.

You may agree with money is spent in Hyndburn and I'm clearly not going to change your mind but until the balance of power shifts then I am by definition likely to be 'opposed' to it.

Discuss.

Once again you criticise but where do you stand? Poitician in opposiition?
You are stereotyping yourself. IMHO you are all somewhat darker than lillywhite until you prove yourself to be whiter than white - DISCUSS

By the way, I am not Tory, Socialist or any other plitical persuasion. I think most if not all of you politicians, local and national are extremly economical with the truth.
Interpret that as you will

Ken Moss · 05-11-2010, 06:15

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Once again you criticise but where do you stand? Poitician in opposiition?
You are stereotyping yourself. IMHO you are all somewhat darker than lillywhite until you prove yourself to be whiter than white - DISCUSS

By the way, I am not Tory, Socialist or any other plitical persuasion. I think most if not all of you politicians, local and national are extremly economical with the truth.
Interpret that as you will

To be honest, you're losing me. Do you want me to trot out exactly the same post in every thread just so people know what I would do if Labour were in control? I have been through this many times before in other threads.

Bernadatte levelled much the same thing at me but I always try to put forward what I perceive to be the 'solution' to problems and if I'm asked a question about how I would do things differently I answer it. The latest one is here:

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/858623-post23.html

Morecambe Ex Pat · 05-11-2010, 07:43

It would help if we knew the cost of a similar classroom built using traditional methods.
A lot of the money on traditional builds goes on architects and consutlants, as they have done most of the work themseves, those fees will have been saved so £350,000 does sound very expensive but anything with a 'green' purpose seems to be far more expensive than the carbon guzzling version.

katex · 07-11-2010, 18:12

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Originally Posted by Neil

I can't wait until they start building the new swimming pool, you will burst a blood vessel or two

And here it is :

11/10/0477 Full: Erection of single storey building to 25/10/2010
accommodate school swimming pool and Road West Accrington BB5 4FF
external works to include hardsurfacing,
landscaping and parking

Accrington Academy Queens Road West Accrington BB5 4FF

Accrington Academy

Why should any one object ?