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Gayle 02-02-2008 14:34

Oswaldtwistle Civic Theatre
 
Leisure in Hyndburn has received some funding from the Arts Council to employ a consultant to do a feasibility study on the Civic Theatre to see if there is an opportunity to turn the Civic into a community arts venue.

I have been appointed as the consultant for this project.

I have a questionnaire which I would like as many people as possible to fill in - so if anyone is prepared to do so could you pm me and I'll email you a copy of it.

PS - if anyone makes any comments on this thread regarding the viability of the conversion can you let me know whether or not I can use your comments in the quotes section of the report.

garinda 02-02-2008 14:44

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Sounds like a good idea.

I'll fill a form in.:)

jaysay 02-02-2008 14:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 525827)
Leisure in Hyndburn has received some funding from the Arts Council to employ a consultant to do a feasibility study on the Civic Theatre to see if there is an opportunity to turn the Civic into a community arts venue.

I have been appointed as the consultant for this project.

I have a questionnaire which I would like as many people as possible to fill in - so if anyone is prepared to do so could you pm me and I'll email you a copy of it.

PS - if anyone makes any comments on this thread regarding the viability of the conversion can you let me know whether or not I can use your comments in the quotes section of the report.

On the face of it it seems like a good Idea, I'm all for getting outside finance from anywhere for the good of the borough. The only thing as far as I'm cocerned is that Art has a very large scope, and as I have never actually put art at the top of my agenda. I understand that many people ge a lot of leasure out of "Art" would it be possible for you to elaborate on just what kind of things we could expect to see if this was to come to fruition please Gayle

Gayle 02-02-2008 15:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 525850)
On the face of it it seems like a good Idea, I'm all for getting outside finance from anywhere for the good of the borough. The only thing as far as I'm cocerned is that Art has a very large scope, and as I have never actually put art at the top of my agenda. I understand that many people ge a lot of leasure out of "Art" would it be possible for you to elaborate on just what kind of things we could expect to see if this was to come to fruition please Gayle


Unfortunately, no I can't elaborate as that's the whole point behind doing a consultation - to find out what people want and to see if it's possible to do it. If people say they want the arts centre to focus on music or theatre or even circus skills then that's what would have to be put forward.

cashman 02-02-2008 15:14

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worth looking at IMHO.

Ski 02-02-2008 15:41

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Although art is a worthy pastime and brings pleasure to many, is this what Oswaldtwistle really wants.

Can the money not be spent on eradicating vandalism, drunk and disorderly behaviour and the drug culture that is growing in the area?

Should we not offer something that will stop the boredom in the area? To be honest if I was in my teens and early twenties, living in Ossy, I would hang around and drink just to kill the boredom and hope the day ends soon. The devil finds work for idle hands. What are we doing to stop hands being idle? There is a lot of potential and talent going down the drain as we do not invest in young people.

Think carefully what we are building and what is left to go to ruin.

cashman 02-02-2008 15:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ski (Post 525879)
Although art is a worthy pastime and brings pleasure to many, is this what Oswaldtwistle really wants.

Can the money not be spent on eradicating vandalism, drunk and disorderly behaviour and the drug culture that is growing in the area?

Should we not offer something that will stop the boredom in the area? To be honest if I was in my teens and early twenties, living in Ossy, I would hang around and drink just to kill the boredom and hope the day ends soon. The devil finds work for idle hands. What are we doing to stop hands being idle? There is a lot of potential and talent going down the drain as we do not invest in young people.

Think carefully what we are building and what is left to go to ruin.

as the money is coming from the Arts Council, thats a dumb suggestion.

Ski 02-02-2008 16:01

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 525882)
as the money is coming from the Arts Council, thats a dumb suggestion.

The Arts council provide funding not just for gallery art, but also to encourage the arts. We have to make sure that the funding is used for inclusive purposes and not exclusive.

I wrote a shorter item so that you can understand it, as the previous one went over your head.

garinda 02-02-2008 16:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ski (Post 525890)
We have to make sure that the funding is used for inclusive purposes and not exclusive.

Therefore you are going to fill in a questionnaire, to make that point?

Ski 02-02-2008 16:14

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 525897)
Therefore you are going to fill in a questionnaire, to make that point?

YES - PM me with the form.
Anything to make Ossy more pleasurable for all.

katex 02-02-2008 16:16

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Me, me, me Gayle .. I'll have one Miss. ! E-mail in profile, but think you have anyway.

garinda 02-02-2008 16:22

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The only 'arts centre' that I have any real knowledge about in the Battersea Arts Centre in London.

Even in such a culturally saturated place as London, it manages to provide something that isn't being catred for elsewhere. They have theatre space, visual art exhibition spaces, practice rooms, where music and drama can be taught. It really is a community arts centre, that is much used and appreciated by residents and tourists alike.

Gayle 02-02-2008 16:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ski (Post 525879)
Although art is a worthy pastime and brings pleasure to many, is this what Oswaldtwistle really wants.

Can the money not be spent on eradicating vandalism, drunk and disorderly behaviour and the drug culture that is growing in the area?

Should we not offer something that will stop the boredom in the area? To be honest if I was in my teens and early twenties, living in Ossy, I would hang around and drink just to kill the boredom and hope the day ends soon. The devil finds work for idle hands. What are we doing to stop hands being idle? There is a lot of potential and talent going down the drain as we do not invest in young people.

Think carefully what we are building and what is left to go to ruin.

You've asked a question and pretty much answered it in one post.

Vandalism, bad behaviour etc - provide something for teens to do so they're not idle - turn the theatre into an arts centre.

So I'm a little unsure about your angle on this.

Ski 02-02-2008 17:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 525914)
You've asked a question and pretty much answered it in one post.

Vandalism, bad behaviour etc - provide something for teens to do so they're not idle - turn the theatre into an arts centre.

So I'm a little unsure about your angle on this.

I've PM'd you on this.
Ski

Gayle 03-02-2008 15:29

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Thank you to all of those who have got forms already, any other volunteers?

All comments are welcome.

blazey 03-02-2008 15:32

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I've sang at the theatre but I haven't been for a long time, a lot of the shows dont seem to be that interesting otherwise i'd go more often. I think they need better advertising to the locals and such.

Gayle 03-02-2008 15:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blazey (Post 526230)
I've sang at the theatre but I haven't been for a long time, a lot of the shows dont seem to be that interesting otherwise i'd go more often. I think they need better advertising to the locals and such.


Can I email you a form so that your views can be documented?

blazey 03-02-2008 15:34

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 526233)
Can I email you a form so that your views can be documented?

of course you can, you should be able to email me through the forum but if I dont get the form i'll send you a pm and let you know.

Uncle Mick 03-02-2008 20:19

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You can send me one and I`ll try to remember to check my e-mails more than once a fortnight! Oh I also owe you Karma cos you reminded me to update my e-mail address but apparently I`ve already given you to much:rolleyes:

lindsay ormerod 04-02-2008 11:58

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You can send me one Gayle, new email addy on my profile. ta.

Neil 04-02-2008 12:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ski (Post 525879)
Can the money not be spent on eradicating vandalism, drunk and disorderly behaviour and the drug culture that is growing in the area?

One way to do as you suggest is to give the people something to do instead of hanging about on the street. Making better use of the Theatre could do that.


I mentioned car parking on my questionnaire Gayle, I think it is a big issue if you want to encourage people from further afield to use the Theatre, especially with the recently proposed resident parking around the Theatre.

cashman 04-02-2008 13:40

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thats a good idea neil,wasn't aware of the residential parking scheme.;)

Neil 04-02-2008 14:03

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 526597)
thats a good idea neil,wasn't aware of the residential parking scheme.;)

Good for who, residents or Theatre visitors?

cashman 04-02-2008 14:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 526604)
Good for who, residents or Theatre visitors?

visitors cos if ya want to attract outsiders, then discussion about how to make it attractive to come,is a must.;) it aint in the best place in the world for parking,

MargaretR 04-02-2008 15:06

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Hold on there!!!!! -----In 1972 I had the misfortune to live for one year in the gable end house right next to the miniscule Ossy Town Hall car park.
The proposed parking scheme is for RESIDENTS and is 35 years overdue!!!!!!

cashman 07-02-2008 09:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 526621)
Hold on there!!!!! -----In 1972 I had the misfortune to live for one year in the gable end house right next to the miniscule Ossy Town Hall car park.
The proposed parking scheme is for RESIDENTS and is 35 years overdue!!!!!!

nobodys knocking that,its certainly needed,this is a seperate issue n i presume the funds from a differant source.:)

MargaretR 07-02-2008 10:00

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If the land next to the Town Hall (where the old folks home was) hadn't been sold off, it would have been an ideal site for a car park, and would have been an encouragement to attend any shows, functions and make use of arts facilities.
As it is now, lack of car parking facilities just causes irritation and inconvenience to residents. When I lived there it was not unknown to have park several streets away from home when there was something on at the Town Hall.

panther 07-02-2008 10:07

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if they did change it into a carpark, you would get all the parents from the school kids parking on it during the day to pick em up too, which wouldnt be a bad thing either;)

katex 07-02-2008 10:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 526621)
The proposed parking scheme is for RESIDENTS and is 35 years overdue!!!!!!

Whilst I agree that the lack of parking for visitor's to the Theatre is probably one of the biggest turn-offs, don't agree with Residents' Parking .. why should anyone be allowed to 'purchase' a parking space outside their property on a public road. If everyone did it .. we would never be able to visit anywhere !

It will only mean that visitor's will have to move further along to other streets .. just shifting it, that's all it will do, not overcoming the problem. Was a shame though Margaret that the Council did not acquire the land next to it.

Gayle 07-02-2008 10:35

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Whilst I realise parking is a big issue in some respects I do wonder whether it isn't a red herring of sorts.

I mean, if you go to Manchester to the theatre are you ever able to park right next to the theatre itself, or Blackburn for that matter? There is tons of parking available at Ossy Mills which theatre goers can use and walk up (probably about the same distance as from the Arndale car park in Manchester to the Royal Exchange) or the car park behind the shops on Union Rd, very close by - or for a while the car park at Rhyddings School was open for use but no one used it (choosing instead to park in front of residential homes).

katex 07-02-2008 10:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 528089)
Whilst I realise parking is a big issue in some respects I do wonder whether it isn't a red herring of sorts.

I mean, if you go to Manchester to the theatre are you ever able to park right next to the theatre itself, or Blackburn for that matter? There is tons of parking available at Ossy Mills which theatre goers can use and walk up (probably about the same distance as from the Arndale car park in Manchester to the Royal Exchange) or the car park behind the shops on Union Rd, very close by - or for a while the car park at Rhyddings School was open for use but no one used it (choosing instead to park in front of residential homes).


Was gonna' say something like this myself Gayle, was wondering about the school for instance. Don't know why it is different somehow .. just is. Why though ? Do you think perhaps because it is more elderly people attend events locally ? Suppose some sort of Park n Ride scheme would be out of the question.

I never noticed that the school was available at one time ... perhaps not directed there very well ?

Gayle 07-02-2008 10:52

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 528097)
Was gonna' say something like this myself Gayle, was wondering about the school for instance. Don't know why it is different somehow .. just is. Why though ? Do you think perhaps because it more elderly people attend events locally ? Suppose some sort of Park n Ride scheme would be out of the question.

I never noticed that the school was available at one time ... perhaps not directed there very well ?


Well the circular bus stops right outside, couldn't get much closer!

katex 07-02-2008 10:55

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 528100)
Well the circular bus stops right outside, couldn't get much closer!

That is true also and the 'Spot On' ones appear to give a decent regular service now. Perhaps when advertising events, this could be noted somewhere.

Gayle 29-02-2008 15:06

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Anyone who wants to find out more about the findings of the consultation and the future plans can come to the Area Council meeting on Wednesday 12th March, 7pm at Rhyddings School.

Lolly 29-02-2008 15:23

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Anyone who disagree's with Residents Parking, clearly does not live anywhere near the Town Hall. Its a nightmare! Try coming home in the evening, when there is something on at the Town Hall with various items (ie: shopping & a Harry, plus trying to get his pram out of the car aswell!) and you can't park anywhere near your house. And i'm not being picky here I don't mean we have to park further down the street. I mean we have to park streets away. I live on Milton Street (directly across from the Town Hall) and sometimes we've had to park down the bottom of Mill Hill (nr Spring Terrace) or down Albert Street.

Will this funding include parking Gayle? (menaing will it be considered when allocating funds?)

I agree with Gayle about the parking and walking a little way. The current car park could be used just for disabled drivers.

Neil 29-02-2008 15:28

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I hope the lady giving the Civic Theatre presentation will make it on time to this meeting, instead of me having to inform her about the bits she missed last time :p

jaysay 29-02-2008 17:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 538446)
I hope the lady giving the Civic Theatre presentation will make it on time to this meeting, instead of me having to inform her about the bits she missed last time :p

If I didn't know you better Neil I'd think you were a stirrer:rolleyes:

Gayle 29-02-2008 17:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 538496)
If I didn't know you better Neil I'd think you were a stirrer:rolleyes:

I do know him better and his is!!!!!! ;)

Neil 29-02-2008 17:57

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 538534)
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 538496)
If I didn't know you better Neil I'd think you were a stirrer:rolleyes:

I do know him better and his is!!!!!! ;)

I did ask you the same question on the though. I am not a stirrer (in this case) I was just having a little laugh with you. I know you like to make an entrance by being fashionably late to the Area Council Meetings.

While your stood up you might as well do my bit :D

jaysay 29-02-2008 17:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 538534)
I do know him better and his is!!!!!! ;)

Well I'll take your word for it then Gayle:D

Gayle 29-02-2008 18:04

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 538539)
I did ask you the same question on the though. I am not a stirrer (in this case) I was just having a little laugh with you. I know you like to make an entrance by being fashionably late to the Area Council Meetings.

While your stood up you might as well do my bit :D

I was late last time, ooops and the time before, because I honestly thought it started at 7.30pm. I have been told, quite clearly by a number of people (who obviously don't want me to be late) that it definitely starts at 7pm, so I will try my hardest to remember that. Perhaps someone could ring me 15mins before!

I've also been told, more than once, that it's not at the Civic Theatre but at Rhyddings School - which is quite ironic as we'll be discussing the theatre!!!

How have I got a reputation for getting meeting details wrong? :D

No, I think I'll leave the park bit to you - I don't want to upset anyone. ;)

Neil 29-02-2008 18:10

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 538544)
Perhaps someone could ring me 15mins before!

Sorry I can't. I am supposed to be there at 6pm or 6.30pm for the before meeting meeting. I can never remember which so I usually just go a bit before 7pm. So I am always late as well :o

Acrylic-bob 02-03-2008 09:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 538435)
Anyone who wants to find out more about the findings of the consultation and the future plans can come to the Area Council meeting on Wednesday 12th March, 7pm at Rhyddings School.

Gayle, for those of us who are unable to attend, will you post the details here so that we can all have a gander, please. :D

Madhatter 02-03-2008 10:01

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Re car parking. You should be including details of car parking with the tickets and telling people where not to park to avoid irritating the theatres neighbours. Not everyone will take notice but a lot do.
To many people expect to be able to park outside of places these days, think they've got a phobia about walking.
Jaysay please get a spell checker. download firefox, it underlines misspelled words in red. You are missing letters out, I presume because you're typing fast.

Neil 02-03-2008 10:49

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 539393)
Gayle, for those of us who are unable to attend, will you post the details here so that we can all have a gander, please. :D

IMHO you are better not attending when they hold it at Rhyddings School. The Civic Theatre is a much larger venue. Come to think of it seeing as one of the main topics will be the theatre it is a shame we wont be in it as we usually are.

I think there is a show on or something. Rhyddings school is used when the theatre is unavailable.

Gayle 02-03-2008 10:56

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It is a shame we're not at the theatre - it's going to be very hard to point things out if the things that I would be pointing out aren't there!

Neil 02-03-2008 10:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 539427)
It is a shame we're not at the theatre - it's going to be very hard to point things out if the things that I would be pointing out aren't there!


Maybe that is all part of your master plan. You can say how bad the place is and we will have to take your word for it. :eek:

katex 03-02-2010 17:48

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Just noticed the 'for sale' sign on this land today, and subsequently found this:

Oswaldtwistle bus lane 'car park' may be turned into housing (From Lancashire Telegraph)

esteemedjuju 03-02-2010 18:13

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i'll fill one in

garinda 03-02-2010 18:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 784837)
Just noticed the 'for sale' sign on this land today, and subsequently found this:

Oswaldtwistle bus lane 'car park' may be turned into housing (From Lancashire Telegraph)

I wonder who granted the residential planning permission, making the land more valuable in the open market?

:rolleyes:

MargaretR 03-02-2010 18:45

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They may not have needed planning permission since there was housing there when it was last in use.

Neil 03-02-2010 18:47

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 784851)
I wonder who granted the residential planning permission, making the land more valuable in the open market?

:rolleyes:

If I remember correctly it was LCC land and was sold by them for houses a year or two ago. HBC wanted to buy it to make it into a car park but could not get LCC to drop the price enough for them.

katex 03-02-2010 18:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 784864)
They may not have needed planning permission since there was housing there when it was last in use.

Afraid they would Margaret.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 784866)
If I remember correctly it was LCC land and was sold by them for houses a year or two ago. HBC wanted to buy it to make it into a car park but could not get LCC to drop the price enough for them.

Yes, can't remember all the details .. was something about the tree.
LCC would only sell land if the buyer were going to stick to certain 'approved' developments too.

Gayle 03-02-2010 20:47

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There's no need to fill in the form - that was back in 2008.

katex 25-02-2010 13:04

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Well, I'm now completely confused with this Planning Application :

11/10/0079 Full: Erection of 1.8 m boundary steel fence 15/02/2010
to car park.

Oswaldtwistle Civic Theatre,
Union Road Oswaldtwistle


Hyndburn Borough Council


Or is this just the little one at the back ? Doesn't seem necessary to me if it is.

Gayle 25-02-2010 13:38

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It's the little one at the back. I'm not 100% sure but I think it's temporary as it will be the construction site - i.e. they'll be putting all their equipment and materials plus a portacabin there for the duration of the build.

katex 25-02-2010 13:43

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 791850)
It's the little one at the back. I'm not 100% sure but I think it's temporary as it will be the construction site - i.e. they'll be putting all their equipment and materials plus a portacabin there for the duration of the build.

Yes, that makes sense ... was just getting over excited thinking something was going on with the other land at the side. We could really do with that being a car park for the Civic Theatre... :(

Acrylic-bob 26-02-2010 14:17

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I started reading this thread unaware that it was over a year old, until I reached my own post!

So, tell us Gayle, do. What happened as a result of the consultation? Is the Arts Council still willing to get its hand in its pocket? How much investment can we look forward to? is it going to be all singing and dancing at Ossy Town Hall or are we in for something more cerebral - Wimmins community drumming workshops maybe? Street 'art' workshops? The suspense is nearly killing me.

garinda 27-02-2010 15:42

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 792195)
I started reading this thread unaware that it was over a year old, until I reached my own post!

So, tell us Gayle, do. What happened as a result of the consultation? Is the Arts Council still willing to get its hand in its pocket? How much investment can we look forward to? is it going to be all singing and dancing at Ossy Town Hall or are we in for something more cerebral - Wimmins community drumming workshops maybe? Street 'art' workshops? The suspense is nearly killing me.

You should have gone to ask Gordon on Wednesday, what the future holds.
Being a 'psychic barber' he could have trimmed your beaver, whilst telling you of forthcoming events.

'What I have is a gift, a gift that must not be abused for self-gain, but must be given freely to those whose need is greatest and who will benefit most from it.
Gordon Smith - Psychic Barber

Guide to Hyndburn - what's on Oswaldtwistle Civic Theatre

:D

Gayle 01-03-2010 08:52

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I've been away for the weekend so just seen this.

First things first - hiya A-B, you've been missed.

Secondly, to answer your question - It's mostly going to be an Arts Centre for young people to get involved with performing, drama, music, film, dance etc. I say, 'mostly' because there will be opportunity for all sorts of things going on there. There will be more emphasis on producing work than performing it - although of course, performing is the end result of producing.

It should open in August. First production is in rehearsal already (at Hippings Vale whilst the refurb is going on) and will be a youth production of Romeo and Juliet.

Acrylic-bob 01-03-2010 16:34

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Hi Gayle, it's nice to be back - and thanks for getting back to me on this.

Can you perhaps explain why it is to be an arts centre mostly for young people and what the target age range is?

Gayle 01-03-2010 17:39

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 793288)
Hi Gayle, it's nice to be back - and thanks for getting back to me on this.

Can you perhaps explain why it is to be an arts centre mostly for young people and what the target age range is?

Because the findings showed that there is lack of cultural provision for young people in this area. Also, since the first report was done further national reports have been published which encourage areas and councils to increase their cultural offering for all ages and in particular for young people.

The target age range of the Arts Centre is ALL AGES, with emphasis on young people i.e. age 5 to 25. There will be many things for many ages.

cmonstanley 01-03-2010 20:12

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if it did turn into an arts centre what would happen when the funding runs out would they shut the building or is there still going to be christmas pantomines and shows or is it going to be a full change just to save hyndburn council some money,or am i missing the point here:confused:

Gayle 01-03-2010 21:05

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There will still be pantos, shows and things going on upstairs.
This is for downstairs. The space downstairs isn't really used at the moment, so by turning it into an arts centre it will give it a use.

cmonstanley 01-03-2010 21:10

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thats good, what about arts and textiles and arrange school visits ,something about the local history maybe even in conjunction with ossy mills.was there not some kind of white work people used to make before the industrial revolution embroidery and industrial polyester just an idea..

Gayle 01-03-2010 21:35

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Any ideas are welcome.

Yes, school visits and local history stuff is a good idea. I did a walk around Ossy a while ago with a group from one school and they seemed to enjoy it.

katex 01-03-2010 22:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 793322)
Because the findings showed that there is lack of cultural provision for young people in this area.

Sorry Gayle .. know you will be getting naffed off with me mentioning this point again, but this is a centre for the whole of Hyndburn .. not just Oswaldtwistle ... the sooner it is renamed the better (yes, I know, offers on the table for this).

It is the only building in our constituency where there are theatre provisions .. shame we could not have bought some of the wonderful buildings in the centre, but we have to make do and mend here unfortunately.

There is a meeting next Tuesday (16th .. 7 p.m.) at Hipping Vale Community Centre for anyone interested in the arts and feel they could contribute to this project.

Neil 01-03-2010 22:58

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 793430)
but this is a centre for the whole of Hyndburn .. not just Oswaldtwistle ... the sooner it is renamed the better (yes, I know, offers on the table for this).

Why on earth would you want to rename it? We even let people from Blackburn and Burnley come to the Theatre as well.

Please explain what the 'offers on the table' mean?

katex 01-03-2010 23:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 793441)
Why on earth would you want to rename it? We even let people from Blackburn and Burnley come to the Theatre as well.

Please explain what the 'offers on the table' mean?

The 'theatre' (upstairs) has to be named so that people know it is not just for the people of Oswaldtwistle Neil .. thought my post was obvious .. :rolleyes: Gotta' get the whole of Hyndburn thinking it is for them too. What do you mean by 'we' even let people from Burnley and Blackburn come to the theatre as well ? Do you mean 'we' the people of Oswaldtwistle or Hyndburn ?

They are looking for a name for this downstairs community arts centre.

Bernard Dawson 01-03-2010 23:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 793430)
Sorry Gayle .. know you will be getting naffed off with me mentioning this point again, but this is a centre for the whole of Hyndburn .. not just Oswaldtwistle ... the sooner it is renamed the better (yes, I know, offers on the table for this).

It is the only building in our constituency where there are theatre provisions .. shame we could not have bought some of the wonderful buildings in the centre, but we have to make do and mend here unfortunately.

There is a meeting next Tuesday (16th .. 7 p.m.) at Hipping Vale Community Centre for anyone interested in the arts and feel they could contribute to this project.

Funny enough, I nearly suggested a name change for the Civic Theatre in a meeting with Gayle, to something like Hyndburn Civic Theatre. I have to admit, I couldn't quite summon up enough courage to suggest we might change the name.

Neil 01-03-2010 23:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 793444)
The 'theatre' (upstairs) has to be named so that people know it is not just for the people of Oswaldtwistle Neil .. thought my post was obvious .. Gotta' get the whole of Hyndburn thinking it is for them too.

I don't see why anyone would think the Theatre is just for Ossy people.

Is Accrington Stanley only for people from Accrington? Of course its not.

The Theatre is named after the name of the town it is in.

Do you think we should rename Ossy Mills so people wont just think its for the people of Oswaldtwistle?

Do you really think people are that stupid they think the Theatre is exclusively for Ossy residents only?

cashman 01-03-2010 23:32

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Dunno i think "Gobbin Hall" would be a fine name.:D

katex 01-03-2010 23:42

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 793446)


Do you really think people are that stupid they think the Theatre is exclusively for Ossy residents only?

Yes, they do Neil. Having been in shows over many years at this theatre .. lots of people do still associate it just with Oswaldtwistle groups, even though the 'Accrington Theatre Group' have put lots of effort into improving the staging/lighting, etc. Groups from other towns are encouraged due to the revenue they generate.

It is a theatre/facility for the whole of Hyndburn and should be marketed as such, otherwise, the community will not be persuaded to put any effort into any projects there.

Accrington Stanley does belong to just Accrington basically, as does Ossy Mills to Oswaldtwistle .. private enterprises. The theatre is an HBC run facility !!

cashman 01-03-2010 23:46

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can't see it meself kate,:confused: been going yon oer 30 years meself, its always been ossy town hall,/ ossy civic, never associated it with just ossy, unless yer saying many of the local population are thick?:D

garinda 02-03-2010 00:00

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 793441)
Why on earth would you want to rename it? We even let people from Blackburn and Burnley come to the Theatre as well.

Please explain what the 'offers on the table' mean?

Accrington and Districts Community Theatre and Arts Centre sounds quite snappy.

:D

garinda 02-03-2010 00:02

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 793445)
Funny enough, I nearly suggested a name change for the Civic Theatre in a meeting with Gayle, to something like Hyndburn Civic Theatre.

I think that's a very good idea.

It's the only theatre in the borough, and is funded by people from all areas of Hyndburn, so makes perfect sense to me.

garinda 02-03-2010 00:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 793446)
Do you think we should rename Ossy Mills so people wont just think its for the people of Oswaldtwistle?

That's a commercial concern, and isn't funded by the tax payers of the borough.

garinda 02-03-2010 00:10

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 793449)
Accrington Stanley does belong to just Accrington basically, as does Ossy Mills to Oswaldtwistle .. private enterprises. The theatre is an HBC run facility !!

He's not long out of the Ribble Valley, and perhaps hasn't heard of some other football teams that represent the towns in Hyndburn, such as Great Harwood Town F.C, Oswaldtwistle St. Mary's F.C., and Rishton United F.C. etc.

:rolleyes::D

jaysay 02-03-2010 09:36

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 793412)
thats good, what about arts and textiles and arrange school visits ,something about the local history maybe even in conjunction with ossy mills.was there not some kind of white work people used to make before the industrial revolution embroidery and industrial polyester just an idea..

Great idea CMS that woud be of benefit o future genertions:mosher:

jaysay 02-03-2010 09:39

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 793455)
Accrington and Districts Community Theatre and Arts Centre sounds quite snappy.

:D

And so is a crocodile sandwich Rindi:D

Neil 02-03-2010 11:14

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I have it on good authority that the Civic Theatre does not have the word Oswaldtwistle in its title anyway, it is part of its address. This can be seen on HBC's website here and here

The fact that it is know as Ossy Civic Theatre is because of its location.

cmonstanley 02-03-2010 11:16

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what about lancashire civic theatre..:D

jaysay 02-03-2010 15:05

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Have you noticed its the Clayton mod at have stirred it again:D:tongueout:tongueout:smile:

Acrylic-bob 02-03-2010 15:59

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I have a problem with all this Quango directed, lottery funded, liberal, social engineering 'ARTS' drivel.

And my problem is that, despite making an awful lot of noise and providing employment for those among us who cannnot create wealth but merely consume it, it leaves behind it very little of any intrinsic worth. It's aims and scope are short term. And, despite the arguments of its proponents to the contrary, delivered at mindnumbing length and with wearying enthusiasm, it does very little to equip anyone in its target audience to do anything of any significance once the funding has run out and the the focus shifts to the next set of government dictated targets.

The current jamboree, kicked off with the Liverpool City of Culture extravaganza and, according to the Arts Council England, North West's Mission Statement, the three years from 2008-2011 are about "great art for everyone".

And so, as a result of a successful bid, £1.6 million has been allocated to Hyndburn and will now be spent refurbishing the Civic Theatre and also has to ensure the delivery of the governments directive that "all children and young people will have the chance to engage in at least five hours a week of high-quality culture in and out of school".

I have no argument with the premise that the vast majority of our children are uncultured brats, I see more than enough evidence of that on a daily basis. But I do not see how the aims of "great art for everyone" and "at least five hours a week of high-quality culture " can be delivered for what amounts to no more than £18.82 per person in the borough, over a three year period.

In a report in The Telegraph on 18/09/2008, the plans for the theatre were said to envisage that "the area would be mainly used for drama, dance, music and film but could also be used by youth groups, activity classes such as yoga, children’s karate groups or by school drama classes.The downstairs area would be transformed with a new day and night cafe bar and an opened-up foyer as well as an office for the new theatre staff. The building as a whole would have disabled access throughout, including access back stage."

So now we know what constitutes "High Quality Culture" and "Great Art for Everyone" in the borough of Hyndburn: the same as what we had before only this time with a new bar and disabled access. And what happens to the place once the circus has moved on and re-decoration or new equipment are needed?

I don't want Gayle to think that I am unappreciative of her efforts, I am not. I wish we had more like her - really, I do. It's just that creativity cannot be commanded. Government Dictat does not create ART nor do committees. Giving a kid access to a video camera might keep him or her occupied for a little while but, it will never produce the next Ingmar Bergman.

katex 02-03-2010 17:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 793573)
I have it on good authority that the Civic Theatre does not have the word Oswaldtwistle in its title anyway, it is part of its address. This can be seen on HBC's website here and here

The fact that it is know as Ossy Civic Theatre is because of its location.

No, that sounds like it is a theatre that belongs to Oswaldtwistle.

I agree that the title Civic Theatre, Oswaldtwistle is creeping in slowly Neil, however, even our Leader started off a letter in February with:-

"Hyndburn Borough Council is currently refurbishing the ground floor of Oswaldtwistle Civic Theatre"

Neil 02-03-2010 17:16

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 793666)
No, that sounds like it is a theatre that belongs to Oswaldtwistle.

Get a grip girl :p:D

katex 02-03-2010 17:18

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 793648)
It's just that creativity cannot be commanded. Government Dictat does not create ART nor do committees. Giving a kid access to a video camera might keep him or her occupied for a little while but, it will never produce the next Ingmar Bergman.

I don't think it is a matter of creating creativity A-B, we have lots of talented young people in our area ... just that their naturalness for creativity needs recognising and encouraging to be brought out by other more experienced people, and bouncing off their own peers to give them a platform/level for their talents.

Acrylic-bob 02-03-2010 17:51

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 793670)
just that their naturalness for creativity needs recognising and encouraging to be brought out by other more experienced people, and bouncing off their own peers

That surely is the purpose of sending them to school, isn't it? 'Education', from the latin, "educare", meaning, 'to lead out'

Gayle 02-03-2010 20:10

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A-B - we didn't get the £1.6m funding. It is only the ground floor that is being refurbished with HBC capital investment.

It will be run like a business so will in time make profit for HBC - in the same way that other public buildings are supposed to.

Whilst I agree that you could give a talentless oik a video camera and you will not create Ingmar Bergman, the opposite also applies that if you give someone with talent a camera there is the outside possibility that you might create the next Danny Boyle.

We have a lot of talent in the area and to nurture it is a good thing. Whether people like it or not, there is a lot of money in the Arts for actors, directors, designers, lighting, sound engineers etc (and not all Arts Council funding). Just because we live in Oswaldtwistle it doesn't mean that some of our young people shouldn't have the best possible opportunities available.

It is nothing like we 'had before' A-B. We don't have anything like this facility and this provision already. There are a few good youth groups but they don't offer training in behind the scenes skills - directing, sound, lighting, video etc that this facility will be offering.

As for the name - Civic Arts Centre and Civic Theatre I think - Oswaldtwistle is part of the address.

Acrylic-bob 03-03-2010 02:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 793704)
A-B - we didn't get the £1.6m funding. It is only the ground floor that is being refurbished with HBC capital investment.


Oh I see, the bid failed and we don't qualify for "great art for all". Why does that not surprise me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 793704)
It will be run like a business so will in time make profit for HBC - in the same way that other public buildings are supposed to.

Run for profit. I can't criticise the hope but I do think that it is a pretty forlorn one. the words HBC, Business and Profit do not naturally follow one another in anything like logical association.

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 793704)
Whilst I agree that you could give a talentless oik a video camera and you will not create Ingmar Bergman, the opposite also applies that if you give someone with talent a camera there is the outside possibility that you might create the next Danny Boyle.

I would have thought that the odds are better in playing the Lottery.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 793704)
We have a lot of talent in the area and to nurture it is a good thing. Whether people like it or not, there is a lot of money in the Arts for actors, directors, designers, lighting, sound engineers etc (and not all Arts Council funding). Just because we live in Oswaldtwistle it doesn't mean that some of our young people shouldn't have the best possible opportunities available.

Are you offering Vocational Qualifications?

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 793704)
It is nothing like we 'had before' A-B. We don't have anything like this facility and this provision already. There are a few good youth groups but they don't offer training in behind the scenes skills - directing, sound, lighting, video etc that this facility will be offering.

How do you think Local Drama have managed to put shows on for the last century without passing on stage management and production skills? Of course it is every bit the same old, same old. except with a bit of new equipment

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 793704)
As for the name - Civic Arts Centre and Civic Theatre I think - Oswaldtwistle is part of the address.

Call it what you like and tie yourself up in knots over wehther it is correctly inclusive enough, but it won't change what it is. Short changed again.

Acrylic-bob 03-03-2010 12:00

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Gayle, I think that you had better take a look at the Haworth Art Gallery post before you answer this one.

Acrylic-bob 05-03-2010 15:56

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Has Gayle fallen off the planet? Hellooooo, anyone out there?????

garinda 05-03-2010 23:40

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What's the current situation with the proposed new carpark on the old Peel Court site? Surely it'll be much nedded with the increased footfall because of the arts centre.

Have the plans been passed?

Gayle 04-04-2010 12:44

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I’ve taken so long to reply to this for a few reasons.

1. I wasn’t sure that anything I said would be believed or accepted as it’s very easy for some people to take a negative stance.
2. It’s very hard to express yourself on a forum like this, if I phrase something slightly ambiguously or confusing, I know it will be picked up and picked apart by some people.
3. Finally, I knew it wouldn’t be a short reply and I didn’t want to blaze into it and miss something out so that I could be accused of ‘hiding’ or ‘omitting important facts’.

So, here goes

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-Bob
Oh I see, the bid failed and we don't qualify for "great art for all". Why does that not surprise me.



We didn’t get the £1.6m but that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t have ‘great art for all’. This is the flaw with publicising a funding bid too early. The media made a big deal about it and yes, it was nice for the council to say that they were going for the bid but ultimately we only ever had a ‘decent’ chance of getting it. (Same applied with the bid for Rhyddings Park that was a bid to a heritage pot). There were £540m worth of bids submitted for the pot and the lottery only had £190m to hand out. We went into it knowing that the application we were submitting was shoehorned to fit the funding pot and not a perfect match. So, instead being given credit for giving it a shot in the outside chance we might get it we have a ‘failed’ bid on our hands.

The funding pot was not aimed at the arts, it was aimed at community centres. Whilst the Civic will be come a Arts Centre for the community, it was still a bit like trying to fit a round peg in a square hole.

But that’s what happens with lottery bids and if you look at the statistics up and down the county, only about 25% actually get the funding. We were going for £1.6m but in fact the lottery really wanted to support bigger, more impressive bids i.e. the £5m that it gave to the new facility in Blackburn. There again you have another possible reason we didn’t get it – why give us £1.6m when they’re ploughing £5m into a nearby town especially when they needed to spread the £190m throughout the country?

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-Bob
Run for profit. I can't criticise the hope but I do think that it is a pretty forlorn one. the words HBC, Business and Profit do not naturally follow one another in anything like logical association.



I’ve been working on this for two years. If truth be known I’ve actually been working on it for over 8 years. I first lobbied the council to do this when I was pregnant with Zack and he turned 8 this January. Over the last two years we’ve done our sums, we’ve written many reports, we’ve looked at it from all angles and we believe it is a viable project.

I guess the only way that I can convince you that I have confidence that this will work is to go into my CV. Before I worked in the Arts I worked for a pharmaceutical company. When I took up my last job in that industry I inherited a department that was making £7m turnover, when I left a few years later it was making a £17m turnover.

I am leading on the Arts Centre project and I have every faith that my figures are robust. Actually, just one correction to what I said before, it will be a ‘not for profit’ organisation. However, that doesn’t mean that it will make a loss, it has to make a profit to be ploughed back into it.

I have spoken to 100s of people who believe in what we’re trying to do. I have spoken to the police, to schools, to local people, to members of community groups, to young people and to many more to find out whether there is the belief that this centre will work. And people are inspired and enthused by the idea.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle
Whilst I agree that you could give a talentless oik a video camera and you will not create Ingmar Bergman, the opposite also applies that if you give someone with talent a camera there is the outside possibility that you might create the next Danny Boyle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acrylic-Bob
I would have thought that the odds are better in playing the Lottery.



I have to completely disagree with you on this. There are a lot of talented people in the area who don’t have the outlets for their talent or sometimes the tools that they need to fulfil their destiny. Yes, there will be a lot of people who use the centre purely as a diversionary tactic i.e. something to do with your mates instead of hanging around the streets or watching tv, but equally there will be a lot of the talent channelled so that people can begin to believe that there is a future in this field for them.

We’re suffering in this area from a brain drain, with people going away to college and not returning because there aren’t the interesting jobs in this area for them. This is an opportunity to bring something to the area that might inspire young people.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Acrylic-Bob
Are you offering Vocational Qualifications?




Not immediately but within a couple of years. We are currently offering Arts Awards which allow young people to get the equivalent of a GCSE. We will also be taking on one modern apprentice who will get their qualifications at Accrington and Rossendale College.


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Originally Posted by Acrylic-Bob
How do you think Local Drama have managed to put shows on for the last century without passing on stage management and production skills? Of course it is every bit the same old, same old. except with a bit of new equipment



Local drama groups are great and provide a creative outlet for lots of people. However, if you look at most local drama groups, the average age is usually in the mid 40s, if you’re lucky. This is about getting young people into the centre and helping them to develop their careers in the arts. It’s about training, mentoring, passing down of skills and learning whilst having fun at the same time. It’s not just about performing arts. One of the first things that we’re doing is a photography project. We’re starting some of these projects now so that when the centre opens it will open with a core group established in some of the activities, it’s an old cliché but we want to ‘hit the ground running’. The photography project involves 14 young people working with a professional photographer over two days during the Easter holidays. These 14 and 15 year olds will be learning new skills, being occupied over the holidays and working with professionals in a field that they may wish to take up professionally themselves in a few years time.

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-Bob
Call it what you like and tie yourself up in knots over wehther it is correctly inclusive enough, but it won't change what it is. Short changed again.



I’m not tying myself up in knots about the name. It’s a centre for the whole of Hyndburn so therefore, the name has had Oswaldtwistle taken out of it. How can I answer your accusation that you’re being ‘short changed’? Clearly you don’t have faith in the project, well that’s fine, but a lot of people do. You’re welcome to come to the next meeting which is on 27th April at 7pm at Hippings Vale Community Centre, to join the board. I think it would be good if you did come along because if you believe that it will fail in its present format then we need people to tell us early on where we’re going wrong so that we can adjust the business plans so that it is a success. No one is going into this for it to fail, so we need to be clear about where you believe it will fail so that we can avoid that happening.


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Originally Posted by Garinda
What's the current situation with the proposed new carpark on the old Peel Court site? Surely it'll be much needed with the increased footfall because of the arts centre.

Have the plans been passed?

At this moment in time, I’m not exactly sure what the situation is. It keeps going on the agenda and then being taken off. From what I understand, the Government put some funding in the budget for the Pennine Reach Transport scheme. If that scheme goes ahead then I assume the car park will go ahead as well. At the moment the land is still privately owned. As far as I know, County were looking at buying the land back. I don’t know what the status is so you’d have to ask someone else that question. Having said that, as soon as I find out more I’ll let you know.

On another thread it was asked how much I get paid. I can’t find the post to copy and paste it. My contract is for £23k per annum. This is for three specific things – developing the Arts Centre, developing Arts in the area in general and organising outdoor events. Whilst you might look at that amount and think it’s a lot, I have to justify that I have brought three times that amount of funding (from the lottery and other sources) into the area in the last year. With £25k raised already this year. In the next few weeks we’ll also find out if more funding that I’ve applied for on behalf of the park has been awarded. I more than pay for myself.

As an example. I went to a funding seminar a few weeks ago for a funding pot called Young Roots. It’s a lottery funding pot, for getting young people involved in projects looking at heritage and the history of the area they live in. Since the funding pot was launched, Hyndburn has received nothing from that pot – not one single bean. The reason is not because the groups in Hyndburn that are eligible are being turned back but because they’re not submitting the bids in the first place. Since the seminar I’ve got through phase 1 of the application process and the hope is that within three or four months the Arts Centre will be awarded £20,000 for heritage projects. That’s bringing money into the area and helping support local businesses, local services and local people. That £20,000 will buy the Arts Centre some video cameras, it will pay for professional video trainers to work with young people and it will pay for the production of professional films by young people.


Just as a final addendum to this missive, as it’s already four pages long. Although the focus of the Arts Centre will be young people, it is not solely for young people. It will be offering choirs, creative writing course, book clubs, bollywood aerobics, back to acting training and much more. It will cater for people of all ages. In fact, at the last meeting I had a group of pensioners who want to be heavily involved.


I’m not sure I can convince you of its viability but I hope I can convince you of my passion for it and my belief that this Arts Centre is long overdue in arriving and much needed.

jaysay 04-04-2010 14:50

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Well think you covered everything there Gayle, but no doubt there will be those who are still not satisfied

garinda 05-04-2010 10:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 803347)
Well think you covered everything there Gayle, but no doubt there will be those who are still not satisfied

I happened to know much of what Gayle posted recently, because she replied privately to my questions some time ago.

However, in the interests of transparency, I think people have the right to know of her appointment, and role, because it would have added weight to her earlier proclamation...

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 733074)
No truth in it whatsoever.

Even though it turns out she was wrong, and H.B.C. did approach L.C.C. four years ago, to look at the possibility of them taking over responsibility for the Haworth.

My only question, that remains unanswered, would be was Gayle appointed to an existing job at H.B.C., or is it a totally new creation?

I look forward to seeing a marked improvement in the quality of arts in the borough, and have no fears that she'll strive to do her best.

Gayle 05-04-2010 11:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Garinda

My only question, that remains unanswered, would be was Gayle appointed to an existing job at H.B.C., or is it a totally new creation?

It is a new creation but it was created two years ago. When I was invited to apply for the post of Arts Consultant for the council. It did come about in a slightly roundabout way but it was all above board and completely transparent. I went to a seminar about Arts Council funding, at the same meeting was Kerry from Leisure in Hyndburn. She said she was there to find out whether the Civic Theatre would be eligible for some funding. As I had already got experience in Arts Council funding, I offered to help her with her application (for no fee). After that followed a few meetings with Steve Tanti and Cllr Britcliffe to see how I could volunteer to help. I worked with them to apply for some Arts Council funding for a consultant to complete a report about the viability of the theatre.

When the Arts Council funding was awarded there was an application process for the role of Arts Consultant. This followed all the normal rules and regulations and is completely open and was advertised. I had to apply like everyone else. I don't know who else applied as that bit was kept confidential from me (naturally as you rarely know who you're up against at an interview). I got the job and the rest as they say, is history.


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Originally Posted by Garinda

I look forward to seeing a marked improvement in the quality of arts in the borough, and have no fears that she'll strive to do her best.

Thank you :D

Just as an addendum to this. You might ask, why after doing this for two years is there not a marked improvement already? Whilst I would (naturally) argue that there has been some improvement already, all of these things take time - time to get funding in place, time to get networks in place and time to write plans and develop the ideas. Last year was a tester with the Year of Culture events, which provided extra Arts throughout the borough and showed what could work and what doesn't. August this year will be the watershed moment as things really start to come into being when the Arts Centre opens its doors.

Funding for many projects is now in place, the building work has started (I got to chose the colour of the carpets on Thursday) and the programme of activity is starting to come together.

garinda 05-04-2010 11:08

Re: Oswaldtwistle Civic Theatre
 
Thanks for answering my question.

I wish you continued success in improving the arts in Hyndburn, and don't doubt your determination to bring about the changes needed.

garinda 05-04-2010 11:11

Re: Oswaldtwistle Civic Theatre
 
Ok, one last unrelated question.

Will the polling station be back in the Town Hall, after the work has finished, or will it be permanently be based at St. Paul's church?

Acrylic-bob 08-04-2010 18:42

Re: Oswaldtwistle Civic Theatre
 
I will respond to Gayle's statement, but not tonight. I have to get up early to earn the money to pay the taxes that help to fund this latest Arty Jamboree. Strangely, Nigel Rix is very much at the front of my mind at the moment, wonder why?


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