Re: Council Tax
 

Well you can carry on the insults... I apologise... I don't know how I ended up there because in 2006 I had the figure down as 34% from 2000.

The point remains, Council Tax is way in excess of inflation as ordinary people know inflation. Wages. Your 50% wage rise figure is wrong. The use of RPI not right.

Re: Council Tax
 

well i have digested this lot n all you have acheived for me,is to demonstrate that this is a personal crusade/ego trip, i dont think you are remotely interested in Hyndburn.:rolleyes:

Re: An Apology to Cyfr - 2 main headline figures wrong
 

Which of my figures are incorrect? I never stated that any band was different to another in terms of % increase. I always said every band has gone up 45%, which is the correct figure.

It is not the most expensive council in Britain when you actually look at the figure you quote (the 8.1%). If everyone was in a Band D and had a house over £300k and Hyndburn still had an average income of £17k then I would accept you were right, but you know that in reality this is not the case, most people live in band A and B.

My 50% figure is correct at a national level. I am not going to go into a debate about RPIvsCPI in this thread.

Re: Council Tax
 

on here i have disagreed with GJ and PB on various things,but i know this, both are damned hardworking councillors, and you have shown your true colours.:(

Re: Council Tax
 

I'm sorry if you feel that way. I simply took offence to Councillor Jones saying my post was "crap. Sloppy research" and accusing me of incorrect, inaccurate figures. When I had spent a lot of time trying to create an unbiased post and making sure my council figures were correct, which they were.

Re: Council Tax
 

yes but i loathe what conservative stand for as you know, but much as i call P.B. i would never doubt how hard he works for Hyndburn, n i respect him fer that,even when disagreeing.

Re: Council Tax
 

I didn't say Graham doesn't work hard, you can see me here: http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/551786-post202.html admitting he had managed to get lots done in his ward, and he responded by thanking me for the post I made.

I've pm'ed you because I don't want this to go off topic.

Re: Council Tax
 

Hate to push old chap but you havn't answered his post yet Graham:confused:

Re: Council Tax
 

A lot of figures are being tossed around amid a lot of confusion ... obviously the figures are a matter of public record. Are they published in the local media ... I would presume the Observer? Are members of the public allowed to sit in and listen while the budget is debated?

Just today in the local rag, they published the figures for the Ontario budget showing how the $96.9 billion in revenue is collected and how the $96.2 billion in expenses will be spent. For example, the govt. will collect $25.2 billion in personal income tax $17.2 billion in sales tax, and will spend $40.4 billion on health care (are you listening Barb?)

I can't understand the confusion over the figures ... is someone trying to hide something or am I just a confused colonial?

Re: Council Tax
 

still the tories fault:rolleyes::tongueout

is that the house ya in at lancaster or ya mothers?
and it wouldnt seem excessive to you, would it?...ya dont pay!:p

Re: Council Tax
 

Yup, the only good tory is a suppository:alright:

Re: Council Tax
 

The budget for 2008-2009 financial year was debted and passed at the Council Meeting held on 28th February. This meeting was open to the public.
Council
Items 12 and 13 were the Budget proposals
The minutes of the Meeting held 28 February will be availabale to view oline, when the agenda etc for the Meeting on 22 April 2008 is avaialble online (link to this meeting is Council

Re: Council Tax
 

All the minutes as far as 2004 are available on the council website: Council

The budget minutes are normally in Feb or March of each year. If you want to go back further the minutes are available at the Library.

All my figures are direct from council minutes which I took a long time to research, the percentages (in terms of how much tax has increased) have been worked out by me afterwards. All the confusion was because g jones was working the percentages out wrong so we had conflicting figures.

Re: Council Tax
 

How the hell can it be the Tories fault!!!!!! They have not been in power for over eleven years!!!!

Oh I get it, the PFI fiasco that GB embraced with both hands and legs as well, the lack of policing in our town, a police station that is not open 24 hours a day, pcso's instead of proper bobbys on the beat, Burnley hospital closing it's A and E, the decline and loss of the Rover Group (I know it had it's start in the 70's with Red Robbo, but GB and King Tony did not do much to help), MRSA in hospitals (that's easy to sort out get rid of contract cleaners, get more nurses and a decent matron like in the good old days), the state of the NHS, Lancashire county council closing its care homes for the elderly, the Highway agency wombles, schools that are alowed to teach creationalism instead of evolution, the polictally correct brigade, gun crime on the increase, the Iraq war, the fact that our navy have aircraft carriers with no aircraft for them (the sea harriers have been retired), our army having a lack of equipment, david blunkett and his ID cards, the DNA database, the RAF having to fly dangerous nimrods, I am sure ther is more, but cannot think of any, it's all down to Thatcher, Major, etc......

Re: Council Tax
 

I hate to sound boring but Graham still hasn't answered my post on his alternative budget proposals for 2008/9:(