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My way of thinking about it is this -
Everything about us is controlled by our genes - they're what make us man/woman, blonde/brunette, short/tall etc. If we accept that our genes - in various combinations can create someone who is extremely fair haired and someone who is extremely dark haired and every shade in between. If we accept that our genes - in various combinations can create someone with bright blue eyes and someone with dark brown eyes and every shade in between. Isn't it feasible that our genes can create (naturally) every shade of sexuality that there is? Just my way of looking at it. |
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I'd recommend reading Richard Dawkin's The Selfish Gene. It explains a lot. I'm going to bow out now as people seem to be confusing the 2 or 3 different discussions in this thread. It's been fun. :) |
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For you to say that showing the normality of two gay men is out of order is very shallow, and homophobic. I hope one gay that you are in desperate need of help from either a homosexual doctor, firefighter etc.. Hopefully they'll turn their back on you, as you've blatently shown your ignorance towards homosexuality in todays society. |
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The Swiss psychologist, Jean Piaget, said that the "concrete" operational stage is the 3rd of 4 stages of development, where children begin to think logically but not abstractly. They see and can rationalise what is in front of them but not the abstract picture. Piaget says 2/3 of people remain concrete operational thinkers all their lives.
Is this why there are those here who see this advert simply as it is portrayed - 2 men in what appears to be a homosexual situation? Some see the subtler, more oblique message and some don't - they see the concrete picture. Neither is going to alter the view of the other. I hope the above doesn't sound pretentious, if it does I'll get my coat.... :( I did A level psychology 25 years ago, at night school, loved it and have been interested in the subject ever since. I'd like to do an O U degree course in it - maybe one of these days, who knows? ;) |
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As for Piaget.... well, it's all child's play isn't it? ;) |
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Just for the record, before I wade into the rest of this - the Doctor is an alien and therefore, we don't actually know what sex he is. We don't know what reproductive organs he's been given. We just call him 'he' because he looks like a human male. Quote:
It is a different mix of genes but everyone is different and no one should be called unfortunate. If the person's genes had given them three eyes or a missing arm then yes, unfortunate, but not if they're a healthy person who'd genes happen to make them prefer one sex or the other. Quote:
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Children who are confident, bright and capable and who accept their parents for who they are do not get bullied or would not allow bullies to affect them. Bullies pick on a weakness, having lesbian or gay parents is not a weakness. Quote:
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Take no notice, Jambutty, I didn't just mean you. :D |
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And sorry about this - but going back to the original point of the thread
IT IS NOT A GAY KISS - it is an interpretation of 'mum' and what mum does for the family. |
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What sort of sick person suggests that lesbian/gay couples abuse young children?! |
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If you feel the post requires reporting then you have a report button..it is a little triangle with an exclamation mark in it......personally, I think it is another 'mountains and molehills'.
Oh and by the way Thomas......expletives and asterisked swear words are frowned on, as this is a family friendly forum. Just thought I would warn you in advance..in case someone has reported your posts. |
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