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WillowTheWhisp 22-09-2008 13:14

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Yes, the smiley says what I understand by evolution, which is actually a degeneration from the perfectly created state which Adam and Eve were in to what we currently have today with all our ailments and disabilities. God did not create us like this. The human race deteriorated to this due to the fall from grace in the garden of Eden. The world also deteriorated from it's original paradisiacal state.



Maybe that's where the Catholic Church gets the idea of 'original sin'.

Neil 22-09-2008 13:19

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 633583)
Yes, the smiley says what I understand by evolution, which is actually a degeneration from the perfectly created state which Adam and Eve were in to what we currently have today with all our ailments and disabilities. God did not create us like this. The human race deteriorated to this due to the fall from grace in the garden of Eden. The world also deteriorated from it's original paradisiacal state.

I thought God was all knowing and all seeing. He must have known what was going to happen yet He screwed us up anyway when He created us.

WillowTheWhisp 22-09-2008 13:23

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Of course he knew! That's why he provide an escape clause with the Atonement. He didn't make any mistakes. He gave us our freedom so we could make our own though. How else does a child learn? Do we do everything for our own children and never allow them to learn from their own mistakes?

Lilly 22-09-2008 15:29

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 633586)
He screwed us up anyway when He created us.

Speak for yourself. :rolleyes::D

jaysay 22-09-2008 15:59

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 633631)
Speak for yourself. :rolleyes::D

Whats this Lilly you saying Neil's a screw up:D:rolleyes:

Eric 23-09-2008 00:31

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 632853)
Well we're going to get into deeper water here because my answer would be disputed by other Christians but here goes anyway.

There isn't only a 'Mr. God'. There's a 'Mrs God' as well and we are all their literal children.

I thought that Mrs. God is the church; the bride of christ:confused: Maybe the heavenly couple should have practised birth control.:alright:

Neil 23-09-2008 01:41

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 633631)
Speak for yourself. :rolleyes::D

Do you never get ill?

jambutty 23-09-2008 03:03

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 633583)
Yes, the smiley says what I understand by evolution, which is actually a degeneration from the perfectly created state which Adam and Eve were in to what we currently have today with all our ailments and disabilities. God did not create us like this. The human race deteriorated to this due to the fall from grace in the garden of Eden. The world also deteriorated from it's original paradisiacal state.



Maybe that's where the Catholic Church gets the idea of 'original sin'.

Did this fall from grace come before, during or after Adam and Eve had begat their brood?

WillowTheWhisp 23-09-2008 13:32

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 633838)
I thought that Mrs. God is the church; the bride of christ:confused: Maybe the heavenly couple should have practised birth control.:alright:

Ah but then you're getting into the debate about the Trinity. You see I believe that God is the Father and Jesus Christ is is son, ie two different people. However, even having said that, this 'bride of Christ' idea is only an invention in later years.

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Did this fall from grace come before, during or after Adam and Eve had begat their brood?

before. There was only Adm and Eve when they took up apple eating - yes I know it wasn't necessarily an apple, it was 'a fruit'.

jambutty 23-09-2008 14:14

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 633918)
before. There was only Adm and Eve when they took up apple eating - yes I know it wasn't necessarily an apple, it was 'a fruit'.

When were Adam and Eve created?

How many years BC?

Lilly 23-09-2008 15:32

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 633842)
Do you never get ill?

Sometimes....that's not screwed up though, is it? :confused:

Splinter 23-09-2008 15:37

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I have seen far more evidence of ghosts than I have ever seen of God. I also fail to see how anyone can believe what cannot be proved.

jaysay 23-09-2008 16:06

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Originally Posted by Splinter (Post 633949)
I have seen far more evidence of ghosts than I have ever seen of God. I also fail to see how anyone can believe what cannot be proved.

The power of prayer is a wonderful thing Splinter:D

Splinter 23-09-2008 16:11

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Prove it. I believe it's just a state of mind.

jaysay 23-09-2008 16:53

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Prove it. I believe it's just a state of mind.

Like I said the power of prayer is a wonderful thing:D


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