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You made 2 statements above that show what is wrong with all this. Many Muslims see themselves as belonging to their own community as you stated and not a part of the whole community. It is this very separatist view by many/most Muslims that is causing many of the race related problems we have today.

You then mention the british courts, does this mean you believe the other courts are not British even though they are in Britain? :confused:

Thats 2 very seperatist and racist statements you made while complaining that people are racist. You are right people are racist, most of them from what you describe as being from their own community.

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Islam isn't a race...

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Its not often I agree with blazey but I do here.These courts can't rule on criminal cases, so in that respect I don't have a problem, but and its a big but, is this just the thin end of a very large wedge, I tend to use the saying give and inch and they'll take a mile, nly time will tell

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the catholic church does not recognise any marriage that took place any where other than a catholic church, so if you got married in a registry office then got divorced you would be able to get married in church.....

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Very true but it is easier to say racist when we really mean religiously prejudiced.

Its easier to spell as well ;)

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:D fair enough

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On the Observer web site there is a section for ex pats and it gives a drop down list of 5 reasons for leaving Accrington 1/ retired 2/ working 3/ tax reasons 4/ weather/lifestyle
5/ no reason.Almost all have put no reason number 5 Thats because my guess is the majority like myself left because of the same reason which the observer wont put in the list.When honesty can not be allowed because it may be interpreted racist by some. It is a sad day for all.

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i also have a muslim friend who went through domestic abuse from her husband, he stabbed her with a pair of scissors some years ago, she is now divorced and has only recently moved back to accy

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Wouldn't they lump that under lifestyle?

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I don't think sharia law is 'bad' from what I know of it, but it is simply 'different'

Nothing that breaches the Human Rights Act 1998 would be enforced from sharia law in this country, so all fundamental rights would still be protected.

I don't often have faith in our government but when it comes to the law and breaching rights that might put our being at risk then I do believe that we have a government that respects this wholeheartedly even if sometimes that doesn't necessarily seem to be the case.

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I live in a country of immigrants ... and most seem happy to live under Canadian law and the protection of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. There is a small group of extremist, you got it, muslims who pressure governments, provincial and federal, for sharia law for muslims. It aint going to happen here. The only groups who are allowed to have some form of local cultural and spiritual laws, specific to themselves, are the First Nations people. This is fine by me and a lot of Canadians because First Nations were here before the rest of us.

But, as I think I mentioned in another thread, for many muslims, religion and the state are inseperable, like it was in Christendom in the middle ages. In the western tradition, the anti-sacerdotal movement begins in earnest in the late 12th century, and was resolved in favor of the secular state by the 15th century with the firm establishment of the centralized national state. Long gone are the days when popes could depose kings, based on a few contentious verses in the bible. Laws are no longer the word of some god that not all choose to believe in (Sarah Palin comes to mind as one leading western political figure who doesn't seem to have advanced all that far from the middle ages in her political thought) I see this whole thing as a clash of two radically different traditions. Let's hope you guys don't lose the battle, or you will all be headed for some form of modern, twisted Canossa.

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I am still failing to see why there is an 'Us Vs Them' battle all the time. Will someone please explain what is so bad about immigrants and how people determine just on sight who is an immigrant and who is a british national?

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So close to the anniversary of 9/11, and you still can't see the "us vs. them." Anyone who can't see what is happening in the world has his/her head up their ass. And this is not a discussion about immigrants in general, but about something more specific and particular. There is nothing bad about immigrants. I'm an immigrant;)

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So you mean us against terrorists? I get confused, sometimes I think we're going on about hating terrorists and then all of a sudden I feel like I should be hating some of my best friends. The jump from hating terrorists to hating all muslims seems such a small one recently... I do get confused when anything like this gets brought up on the forum.

9/11 wasn't an attack against England though was it, though I understand why you would bring it up as an example. Wasn't it 7/7 or something in London? That would've been a better example but it doesn't quite have the same ring to it does it.

Was that bombing in Manchester years ago by muslims? I was quite young then and only have very vague memories of it in the news.