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Royboy39

09-04-2009 21:57

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 702777)

Different issue Derek ..... :p

Course they do !! Oh hek, read the other thread on adopted roads for crying out loud Roy .... and don't come the one about getting discount for having an unadopted road .... they drive on all the other roads don't they ???

Yes they do and pay road tax for that, or is that a taboo subject as well?

derekgas

09-04-2009 22:00

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 702780)

Leave it Andrew there's no story here but if you want to investigate something see what you can find out about over £1m being spent on some properties on Pendle Street which despite opposition from his own party Britcliffe seems to think this money is worth spending???

If they had spent money on having decent repairs done on the council properties over the years, it wouldnt have cost me an awful lot of money to bring our ex council house up to a decent living standard.

shillelagh

09-04-2009 22:02

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Andrew have you ever took minutes of a meeting on a regular basis?

Royboy39

09-04-2009 22:04

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Hey guys take time out and look at the George Slynn thread...the man died today age 73.

katex

09-04-2009 22:26

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 702783)

Yes they do and pay road tax for that, or is that a taboo subject as well?

Road tax doesn't pay for local roads Roy. That's HBC and LCC combined. Most of road tax goes to Highways Agency for national road links, maintenance,disabled passes, police and emergency services, logistics maintenance and infrastructure (pipes, transport) and administration agencies DVLA blah, blah, blah.

It is a sad situation for residents on unadopted roads ... a legacy of years ago, when there were no planning regulations, etc. Was up to the developer to install these roads initially and wouldn't happen now. LCC would then take over these roads for maintenance (not new lay).

Again though, the price of the property would reflect this, in order to allow the residents to have funds to bring it up to spec. to be adopted .

HBC are only offering to fill in the potholes to make it more acceptable, but I think waste of money, but Oh hem .. live and let live hey ?

katex

09-04-2009 22:28

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 702790)

Hey guys take time out and look at the George Slynn thread...the man died today age 73.

Of course we have seen it Roy .. and will pay our respects accordingly.

Bagpuss

09-04-2009 22:33

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Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 702785)

The properties on Pendle Street aren't I believe council owed.

garinda

09-04-2009 22:41

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 702778)

He tried a character assassination on myself when I requested information from all the councillors

Again you seem to be one of those people who think that two wrongs make a right.

I think people have made their own minds up as to your character, from your own actions.

Neil	09-04-2009 22:42

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 702806)

The properties on Pendle Street aren't I believe council owed.

Which makes it even worse. Why should the taxpayer repair privately owned homes that have been neglected by the home owner.

I wonder if the Council will build me a new garden wall :rolleyes:

cashman

09-04-2009 22:47

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 702809)

Again you seem to be one of those people who think that two wrongs make a right.

I think people have made their own minds up as to your character, from your own actions.

i made my mind up long ago, n andrew has done nothing but re-enforce my view.:rolleyes:

jaysay

10-04-2009 08:43

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 702811)

Which makes it even worse. Why should the taxpayer repair privately owned homes that have been neglected by the home owner.

I wonder if the Council will build me a new garden wall :rolleyes:

Ask at the next area council:D:rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington

10-04-2009 08:51

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While Andrew insists that he is only trying to get the facts, he does it like he is Counsel for the prosecution.
Andrew there are gentler ways to obtain information, and these methods make it much less likely that you will be accused of harassment.......but hey you are young and have still a lot to learn.

Bernard Dawson

10-04-2009 09:53

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 702770)

I think the majority vote is that we are all backing Cllr Jones here so let's call it a day please.

I'm am more interested in what points have been put forward to have these unadopted roads funded by tax payers to do temporary improvements, and still will not be adopted by LCC. Sorry, Bernard but filling in the potholes on Annie Street will only be of advantage to the residents, not to the rest of us .. unless you can convince me differently. Same with Hodder and Manor to be honest.

P.S. See Robert Owen has now changed to Bernard Dawson.
(I told him what to do ages ago, but nobody takes any notice of me ... :s_cry:)

Kate I suppose predominately it will be the residents of those streets that will benefit most. But Hodder St does get used quite a bit by other traffic, Annie St maybe not so much.

It's the just the top block of Annie St that were talking about doing, the bottom block has already been done .

It's also the back Manor St we are hoping to do. It's a just a short bit, from Norfolk St down to where the Spar garage is. It only involves a about 5 houses. It's facing were the paper shop used to be on Manor St.

Thanks for the help with the name change. It just talk me awhile to get around to changing it.

katex

10-04-2009 10:20

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 702974)

Ok ... thanks for that, not sure of traffic flow on Hodder Street, but you have to put a good case forward for doing these works, and only right that us voters question it.

By the way, don't usually point out spelling errors, but better amend your signature too ... from formally to formerly ... LOL. AndrewB made this mistake too, so only fair is pointed out to you too. :D

andrewb

10-04-2009 10:34

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 702983)

Amusingly, it was me who set his signature originally. :D

katex

10-04-2009 10:36

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 702991)

Amusingly, it was me who set his signature originally. :D

LOL .. actually thought it may have been Mick ! Good job I didn't accuse him. :eek:

g jones

10-04-2009 11:17

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 702811)

Which makes it even worse. Why should the taxpayer repair privately owned homes that have been neglected by the home owner.

I wonder if the Council will build me a new garden wall :rolleyes:

1. A point not made. In Hyndburn, Area Council monies have been used to put scrappings down and crush them in, to improve for a short while unadopted roads. Certainly in Altham by Labour and I think elsewhere by Tory. No-one objected then to this type of work or budget source. It has been generally accepted at A/C's as ok.

2. I have been granted £115,000 of Lottery for Neighbourhood Management and whilst not the Council (they are not very good at filling in Lottery Forms Neil :rolleyes:), we will be doing precisely that (amongst other things), improving people's garden walls, railings etc...

andrewb

10-04-2009 12:05

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Not to sound like I'm badgering on, but it would be nice if you could answer the questions I posted to clear things up please Graham? I know they were put across quite harshly, and I'm sorry I didn't mean them to come across in that way.

andrewb

10-04-2009 12:47

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I can see how, despite councillors being capable of making fair, and equal decisions, when an interest is involved, it's very easy to accuse them of doing wrong, to benefit themselves, or others. This is the same with moderation. I myself am perfectly capable of being fair and balanced with moderation, but I do have an interest to declare, therefore it's very easy for it to look like I'm moderating to favour the political opinions I prefer the most.

As such I will no longer take part in moderating political threads.

Margaret Pilkington

10-04-2009 12:51

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Andrew that is a good decision, at least that way you cannot be accused of political bias.

MargaretR

10-04-2009 12:52

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At last a victory for common sense

Neil	10-04-2009 13:09

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 703009)

I know they have, I don't have to agree with it though

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 703009)

2. I have been granted £115,000 of Lottery for Neighbourhood Management and whilst not the Council (they are not very good at filling in Lottery Forms Neil :rolleyes:), we will be doing precisely that (amongst other things), improving people's garden walls, railings etc...

Well done on the money. Will that be works for everyone or is there a selection criteria for houses in the area?

mallard

10-04-2009 19:54

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well they have just retarmac,t john street again were the rug place is they the all of the street,but they what tarmack was left they just put it on the wast land across the road but yet they could of used it on the path way at the side of merlin cour,t were there is a big dip what want,s filling in.

Neil	10-04-2009 20:12

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Originally Posted by mallard (Post 703127)

Is it as simple as just chucking the tarmac in the dip and rolling it out?

I would have thought the area would need to be correctly prepared before they can fill it or else it won't stick properly and we would all be moaning about it breaking up after a few weeks.

Mancie

10-04-2009 23:57

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 702473)

Anybody living abroad is entitled to a vote at a general election, or the used to be able to in the days when I was active. They are allowed to vote for whom they want Tory, Labour, Lib/dem, or MRLP, that vote entitlement is at their last UK registered address. This is in much the same way as other people from other countries vote at their elections back home, Yanks Aussies etc.

Thanks for that Jaysay...I don't have a problem with Ex-pats having a vote... but be able to vote in general elections from the last registerd UK address seems open to abuse.

jaysay

11-04-2009 09:56

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 703227)

Thanks for that Jaysay...I don't have a problem with Ex-pats having a vote... but be able to vote in general elections from the last registerd UK address seems open to abuse.

Don't know the ins and outs Mancie, but there must be checks to ensure there is no abuse. Local Authorities will have a record to confirm that the applicant did, at one time, live at that address to which the application is being made

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