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garinda

01-09-2009 16:28

Re: European poll.

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 740658)

I am undecided whether or not to register for a vote this time.
The form has arrived and I can't even bring myself to open the envelope.
Democracy is dead. Whoever gets in works for their own interests and for a common purpose, which is not for the good of the population.

I hope on reflection you do register, even if you can't vote for anyone, any spoilt papers are counted.

If you do register you have a choice what you do later, which would be taken away if you decide now not to bother.

Wynonie Harris

01-09-2009 16:28

Re: European poll.

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 740647)

If we left the EU we'd still have economic ties and could still form free trade agreements just like many other countries not in the EU do. Does answer 1 suggest no economic ties/trade, or are 1 and 3 the same?

I agree, Norway, Switzerand, Iceland and a few other countries aren't in the EU, but have trading ties, so surely the votes for 1 and 3 should be combined? ;)

Bernard Dawson

01-09-2009 16:28

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 740655)

By the way, it isn't a secret ballot.

Bernard, you've voted to keep the status quo as it is. Are you happy with a system that allows a Romanion to enter Britain and claim social benefits here, and also to claim benefits for children still back in Romania, all quite legally?

Personally I think that stinks, and proves we are seen as the soft touch of this political/economic/whatever union.

I''m in favour of this Country being in the European Union/Community. I'm certainly not in favour of abuses such as you mention.

I don't see why anomalies such as these can't be sorted out without resorting to the drastic step of leaving Europe.

garinda

01-09-2009 16:31

Re: European poll.

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 740665)

Thanks for answering.

Sadly I don't see much evidence of any mainsteam political party addressing the abuses we as a nation suffer.

Mancie

01-09-2009 16:31

Re: European poll.

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 740656)

So being "sensible" means agreeing with you, does it? And as for leaving giving us an "aggressive national attitude", do you mean like those snarling nationalists, the Norwegians and the Swiss? :rolleyes:

The Swiss and Norwegians?.. you can't compare them to Britian...I was going to add that some European countries that are not in the EU do have a certain advantage..but only as far as they are regarded as small fry that get along by selling goats cheese or have "special" banking services.. or on export of Christmas trees.. this is the reality of Europe..I say this country would not do well if we left the EU..a go it alone policy is not reality.

garinda

01-09-2009 16:33

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 740669)

We did quite well up until 1973.

Mancie

01-09-2009 16:38

Re: European poll.

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 740670)

We did quite well up until 1973.

Yes we did..and that is what this is really all about..if we had stayed out of the "Glorious Reunion" of Europe then this debate would not be going on.. but the massive Tory support along with the media lead us into something we just cannot walk away from.

garinda

01-09-2009 16:39

Re: European poll.

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 740673)

... but the massive Tory support along with the media lead us into something we just cannot walk away from.

Yes we can.

cashman

01-09-2009 16:42

Re: European poll.

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 740665)

can you please explain "How" also "Why" they have not been long ago?:confused:

MargaretR

01-09-2009 16:45

Re: European poll.

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 740674)

Yes we can.

I cringe when I hear that.
Some you tube clips play it backwards - it's quite chilling:eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqALd...eature=related

garinda

01-09-2009 16:48

Re: European poll.

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 740647)

In answer to your pm.:rolleyes:

Options 1 and 3 are as written.

You must decide for yourself.

Soon you'll be voting in your first General Election, and I won't be there to hold your hand, and help make sense of the voting ballot.

:D

andrewb

01-09-2009 16:51

Re: European poll.

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 740682)

I won't be voting in the poll then if you don't wish to make it clear :) I want to be out of the EU but believe that you can still have economic ties as many countries do.

Mancie

01-09-2009 16:53

Re: European poll.

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 740674)

Yes we can.

No you can't if your a farmer that relies on 80% of their income from the C.A.P...and no you can't when and if the currency betting boys in the City decide to make an run on the pound.

garinda

01-09-2009 16:57

Re: European poll.

I can't for the life of me understand why, on the one hand we are told that devolution is good, fairer, and more democratic, with people at grassroot level having more power locally, as seen by the Welsh/Scottish parliament, and also the breaking up of the U.S.S.R, and the emergence of independent countries from under the cloak of eastern block rule, and on the other hand we are supposed to think its good that we now have another very costly level of government, with national powers being given over to one big super power state, the E.U.

garinda

01-09-2009 16:58

Re: European poll.

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 740684)

I won't be voting in the poll then if you don't wish to make it clear :) I want to be out of the EU but believe that you can still have economic ties as many countries do.

Then you should have voted for opion 3.;)

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