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I can't pretend I don't know Turkishdelight's partner is from an E.U. state, and it may give her a different view of the workings of a borders free Europe. I've got Italian friends who love being able to come and work in the U.K., just as I have British friends who are happy that they've retired in their forties to Gran Canaria. So you see I have experience of the benefits to my friends, but it doesn't alter my own opinion, that being that we should pull out of the E.U. as soon as possible. So unless you've anything to add that's relevant to the subject of the thread, why don't you keep your sneck out? |
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Luckily, you dont know me and I dont know you, apart from what I have heard. I brush that of as heresay, but I am beginning to wonder.;) |
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Ah, seems like there is a lull in the battle, so: I still can't see the problem with the UK taking firm control of its destiny .... you are a democracy (many of you don't like your present govt., but you can democratically turf it out at the next election); doesn't that mean that the govt.you elect makes decisions on your behalf with the authority you have delegated. And doesn't it follow from this that you, through your govt., control your own destiny. What's the problem? Not many people give Canada much thought; but if they do, they think of us as some sort of wannabe 51st. state. But the reality is, we are, like you, an independent sovereign nation. We pursue an independent domestic and foreign policy. Sure we are in NAFTA; but this is kinda inevitable. After all, the US depends on us for the largest percentage of its oil imports; and the volume of trade between Ontario, one province, and the US is greater than that between the US and China. But, we make our own rules. We go our own way in foreign policy. No one, but our democratically elected government(s) makes decisions for us. Bottom line is, we are who we are, take it or leave it. And we still dominate our national sport (ok, that's officially Lacrosse, but I'm talking hockey).;)
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Keep the good stuff cob out the bad stuff, get our own sovereignty back and sack the pen pushing faceless twallies over there. Dont think we could afford to be in the United States of Europe. There is more crud comming out of Brussels than an elephant with a serious case of deli belly backfire helped along with 1/2 a ton of Senicot.
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As stated I have friends from member states of the E.U. who enjoy there being no effective border control between participating countries, but to me it doesn't alter the fact that I think we should withdraw, because of the vast expense, and the many loopholes, which mean Britain's welfare state is seen as easy pickings by all and sundry. Loopholes which mainstream political parties seem happy to turn a blind eye to, and not to be worried by the public's concern, as examplified to a lesser extent by this thread, and the findings of the poll, and for the status quo to remain as it is, with Britain remaining the loser in the whole shambolic, and unfair bun fight, that is today's United States of Europe. |
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I can't see asking a question, based on a fact, could be seen as an attack. All you needed to say was no, my misguided opinion is based on the misassumption that the E.U. is the very cradle of all things fair. |
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So far, according to this small poll, 84% are unhappy with the present situation, with regards to Britain's membership of the E.U.
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Although I have friends who are Italian who have worked here, and British friends who have retired to another member country, and therefore take advantage of a borders free Europe, l don't know anyone who has a partner who is from an E.U. member country, and genuinely wanted to know if their view of how the system works had helped form their opinion, like it has with my friends. I apologise for not been given the correct information by your relative, as if he isn't from an E.U. member state the question is then irrelevant. |
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A little bit like you did with Cllr. Graham Jones, when you hinted he was some kind of slum landlord, when in fact he was waiting for the probate to go through on his late grandmother's home. |
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