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BLACKBURN RAVER 02-01-2010 10:21

fanatics
 
Fanatics plan march in Wootton Bassett | The Sun |News


just read this in the sun and to be quite honest im outraged, just who do they think they are and why oh why has this been given the green light, all they are doing is basically walking over the soldiers graves, them lads n lasses lost their lives because of a war we shouldnt even be fighting and these ignorant, racist, fanatical idiots are just out to cause trouble, it is a christian country, it will NEVER be a muslim state, as soon as these idiots realise that the better...

when in rome etc etc :mad::mad::dflam::dflam:

Taggy 02-01-2010 10:25

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Hopefully if this a genuine proposal the Police will see fit to Ban it!!!

Best Regards - Taggy

SPUGGIE J 02-01-2010 10:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 774462)
Hopefully if this a genuine proposal the Police will see fit to Ban it!!!

Best Regards - Taggy


Do the police have the courage to ban it though? Personally I think they will dither over it despite what could/would happen. Possibility of a violent showdown if it does go ahead.

cashman 02-01-2010 10:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 774462)
Hopefully if this a genuine proposal the Police will see fit to Ban it!!!

Best Regards - Taggy

agree thats the real question, also if true its about time the government took the bull by the horns n sorted this problem once n fer all.

SPUGGIE J 02-01-2010 10:41

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 774466)
agree thats the real question, also if true its about time the government took the bull by the horns n sorted this problem once n fer all.

More chance of stilton cheese being found on the moon.

Wynonie Harris 02-01-2010 10:46

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Looks like it's not just another piece of Sun sensationalism...

Outrage over controversial Islamic group's plan to march through Wootton Bassett - Telegraph

If this government has the slightest sense of decency, they will immediately look for ways to ban this march.

Totally incensed. :mad:

Taggy 02-01-2010 10:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 774466)
agree thats the real question, also if true its about time the government took the bull by the horns n sorted this problem once n fer all.

Yep thats right, we are seen as soft touch, wimpish society now, and where is it getting us. Its provoking anger on the streets, and in the homes of decent people. Why would extremists choose to make a protest of this nature in a Town where feelings are running high? Total and utter contempt and provocation, would seem to be the reason. Its time to show that being nice, decent and tolerant, doesn't mean that we can be shat upon!!

Best Regards - Taggy

BERNADETTE 02-01-2010 11:00

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If this protest march is allowed to go ahead it will just show us how bad things really are in this country. Why should extremist groups be allowed to get away with inciting violence?That is just what their aim is in organising this march. Time for the authorities to clamp down hard, whether we agree or disagree with this war our lads and lasses deserve our respect. I'm so incensed at this proposed "protest"

garinda 02-01-2010 11:02

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By this extremist group choosing to hold their 'protest' in this town, should mean it won't be allowed to go ahead on the grounds it will incite racial hatred.

Hopefully the powers that be will have the good sense to ban any march or protest.

Their leader is from Ilford, and by targeting this town, he is showing gross insensitivity.

As a nation we are all very grateful for the dignified respect shown to the war dead, and given to the fallen, on our behalf, by the people of Wootton Bassett.

If people want to live in a Muslim state they should pack their bags, and go and live in one, though I fear our generous benefit system means this is unlikely.

vera 02-01-2010 11:09

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This is one of the reasons i left England, and HOPE never to return, it is no longer a BRITISH country, we are being dictated to by foreigners. Enoch Powell was right. Enough said by me. :mad:

cashman 02-01-2010 11:10

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These Fanatics are well aware that action like this breeds Racial Hatred, n thats what they want, unfortunatly our politicians are too DAMN STUPID to see this.:mad:

LYNX1 02-01-2010 11:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 774494)
By this extremist group choosing to hold their 'protest' in this town, should mean it won't be allowed to go ahead on the grounds it will incite racial hatred.

Hopefully the powers that be will have the good sense to ban any march or protest.

Their leader is from Ilford, and by targeting this town, he is showing gross insensitivity.

As a nation we are all very grateful for the dignified respect shown to the war dead, and given to the fallen, on our behalf, by the people of Wootton Bassett.

If people want to live in a Muslim state they should pack their bags, and go and live in one, though I fear our generous benefit system means this is unlikely.

So true rindy........we are the laughing stock of the world, no country has any respect for Great Britain.....as long as we allow these people any credance we should drop the GREAT as we have lost the right to use the word.........IMHO
:mad:

BERNADETTE 02-01-2010 11:12

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Quote:

garinda If people want to live in a Muslim state they should pack their bags, and go and live in one, though I fear our generous benefit system means this is unlikely. If people want to live in a Muslim state they should pack their bags, and go and live in one, though I fear our generous benefit system means this is unlikely.
Nail on head with that comment G, would give you karma but got to spread it round.

Another thing that this fanatic says he will do really rankles. How dare he think that he needs to right to the parents of our dead to tell them why they died?:mad:

Wynonie Harris 02-01-2010 11:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 774500)
These Fanatics are well aware that action like this breeds Racial Hatred, n thats what they want, unfortunatly our politicians are too DAMN STUPID to see this.:mad:

...talking of politicians, perhaps the area's local politicians would care to comment on this?

Graham, Bernard, ClaytonEnder etc?

Ssshhh... :rolleyes:

garinda 02-01-2010 11:18

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From the filth this man is coming out with, taking advantage of the democracy he apparently so despises, and if we had a Home Secretary with any real balls, this man should be imprisoned for treason and inciting hatred at this very minute, not planning any bloody protests in Wootton Bassett.

'Anjem Choudary, has praised the 9/11 attackers, sought funding for "mujaheddin," called for oppression of women, and sought stoning and amputations to be part of Sharia law in the United Kingdom.'
UK: Islamic Supremacist Group Launches "Jesus4Shariah" Campaign | EuropeNews

I think I'd be pro-stoning, as long as it's this piece of scum who's at the recieving end of the flying rocks.

garinda 02-01-2010 11:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 774500)
... unfortunatly our politicians are too DAMN STUPID to see this.:mad:

Or too damn scared of not securing votes, such as lily livered Jack Straw proved on Question Time.

Wynonie Harris 02-01-2010 11:29

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The likes of the BNP must rub their hands with glee when they see things like this happening, because it just ends up driving more people towards them.

And the really sad thing is that the more stupid members of society will use incidents like this to pick on anyone with a brown skin. Take it from me - that's what happens. :(

garinda 02-01-2010 11:37

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 774512)
The likes of the BNP must rub their hands with glee when they see things like this happening, because it just ends up driving more people towards them.

And the really sad thing is that the more stupid members of society will use incidents like this to pick on anyone with a brown skin. Take it from me - that's what happens. :(

Sadly that will continue until the powers that be realise that the majority of British people, regardless of colour or faith, are sick and tired of allowing those who seek to end democracy a platform to air their views, and fund them whilst they are planning our downfall.

cashman 02-01-2010 11:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 774503)
...talking of politicians, perhaps the area's local politicians would care to comment on this?

Graham, Bernard, ClaytonEnder etc?

Ssshhh... :rolleyes:

more chance of our pope becoming a suicide bomber.:rolleyes::eek:

Taggy 02-01-2010 11:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 774519)
more chance of our pope becoming a suicide bomber.:rolleyes::eek:

You takin the Lord thy Greg's name in vain Cashy??;)

Best Regards - Taggy

cmonstanley 02-01-2010 11:43

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not my pope :D im presbyterian...if this goes ahead ive aready heard theres going to be big trouble ...

jaysay 02-01-2010 11:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 774508)
Or too damn scared of not securing votes, such as lily livered Jack Straw proved on Question Time.

The trouble is Rindi they've gone to fare down the road of bending over backwards to placate these religious nut jobs, now we are reaping what has been sown, and I'm not just talking about this present government either, its time to say enough is enough, and boot these people out of he country, irrespective of the reception awaiting them in their country of birth. If there are like minded people born in this country, if they don't want to toe the line and conform to our rules they can have a choice either go to the country of their forefathers or Belmarsh prison, simple

LYNX1 02-01-2010 11:48

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Just got this in an e-mail from an American friend......think it sums UK up brilliantly...........


The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent terrorist
threats and have raised their security level from "Miffed" to
"Peeved."
Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated"
or even "A Bit Cross." The English have not been "A Bit Cross" since
the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies all but ran out. Terrorists have
been re-categorized from "Tiresome" to a "Bloody Nuisance." The last
time the British issued a "Bloody Nuisance" warning level was during
the great fire of 1666.

The Scots raised their threat level from "****ed Off" to "Let's get
the Bastards". They don't have any other levels. This is the reason
they have been used on the front line in the British army for the
last 300 years.

The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its
terror alert level from "Run" to "Hide". The only two higher levels
in
France are "Collaborate" and "Surrender." The rise was thought
to be precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed
France's white
flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country's military capability.
However, it's not only the French who are on a heightened level of
alert.

Italy has increased the alert level from "Shout Loudly and
Excitedly" to "Elaborate Military Posturing." Two more levels
remain: "Ineffective Combat Operations" and "Change Sides Now".

Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual, and the
only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of
Brussels.
The Spanish are all terribly excited to see their new submarines
ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms
so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish
navy.
nd in the southern hemisphere...
Australia, meanwhile, has raised its security level from "No worries"
to "She'll be right, mate". Three more escalation levels remain:
"Strewth!",
"I think we'll need to cancel the barbie this weekend" and
"The barbie is cancelled".
So far no situation has ever warranted use of this ultimate
escalation level, which is fortunate since civil war would be the
inevitable result . . .

Wynonie Harris 02-01-2010 11:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 774521)
You takin the Lord thy Greg's name in vain Cashy??;)

Best Regards - Taggy

...talking of whom, perhaps we can expect a comment from him on this story? :rolleyes:

Bernard Dawson 02-01-2010 13:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 774503)
...talking of politicians, perhaps the area's local politicians would care to comment on this?

Graham, Bernard, ClaytonEnder etc?

Ssshhh... :rolleyes:


If this is a genuine proposal then quite clearly it should be banned. I would have thought that the police have the powers on the grounds of pubic safety. If not then the Government should put a stop to it.

accyman 02-01-2010 13:39

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perhaps we should call back a few of our troops who served with these fallen soldiers that are going to be dishonoured and allow them to protect this town from teh scum that hates them so much.

its about time we started slinging these idiots out of this country regardless of if they were born here or not because they sure arnt happy to be here and we sure as hell arnt happy to have them here either.if they are so opposed to our soldiers maybe they shoudl sod off to afghanistan and stand infront of one of our men with a rifle and see what happens to them

peacefull protest my arse they will be hoping for a violent confrontation so that they can play the victim card and say they were attacked because they are muslims .This if allowed to happen can only dammage relations between different groups of society

LYNX1 02-01-2010 13:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 774571)
If this is a genuine proposal then quite clearly it should be banned. I would have thought that the police have the powers on the grounds of pubic safety. If not then the Government should put a stop to it.


Think it's about time someone told No 10 about Accyweb.........if they came on they might get a bit of a hint about how people in the real world think, or is that too much like common sense :rolleyes:

LYNX1 02-01-2010 13:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 774573)
perhaps we should call back a few of our troops who served with these fallen soldiers that are going to be dishonoured and allow them to protect this town from teh scum that hates them so much


It's about time something was done about these nutter and I think your suggestion would work beautifully........and our lads would be a bit safer :D

Taggy 02-01-2010 13:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 774571)
If this is a genuine proposal then quite clearly it should be banned. I would have thought that the police have the powers on the grounds of pubic safety. If not then the Government should put a stop to it.

I totally agree Bernard....we British will put up with a lot, but we do get rather annoyed when our "pubic's" are put under threat!!:D

Best Regards - Taggy

SPUGGIE J 02-01-2010 13:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LYNX1 (Post 774574)
Think it's about time someone told No 10 about Accyweb.........if they came on they might get a bit of a hint about how people in the real world think, or is that too much like common sense :rolleyes:

If it isnt full of spin then there is no chance.

LYNX1 02-01-2010 14:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 774581)
If it isnt full of spin then there is no chance.


Sorry Spuggie..........forgot myself there for a minute, thanks for fetching me back down to earth :D

jaysay 02-01-2010 14:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 774573)
perhaps we should call back a few of our troops who served with these fallen soldiers that are going to be dishonoured and allow them to protect this town from the scum that hates them so much.

its about time we started slinging these idiots out of this country regardless of if they were born here or not because they sure arnt happy to be here and we sure as hell arnt happy to have them here either.if they are so opposed to our soldiers maybe they shoudl sod off to afghanistan and stand infront of one of our men with a rifle and see what happens to them

peacefull protest my arse they will be hoping for a violent confrontation so that they can play the victim card and say they were attacked because they are muslims .This if allowed to happen can only dammage relations between different groups of society

Preferable the SAS on a day out

Bernard Dawson 02-01-2010 14:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 774579)
I totally agree Bernard....we British will put up with a lot, but we do get rather annoyed when our "pubic's" are put under threat!!:D

Best Regards - Taggy


Sorry about that, I hadn't spotted the mistake. Public is clearly what I meant. It does change the emphasis slightly doesn't it.

accyman 02-01-2010 14:14

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 774585)
Preferable the SAS on a day out

or maybe mine the road leading into the town so that they can have a taste of what our lads have to put up with.Maybe if there is trouble it will force somthing to be done although sayingthat whatever is done will probably fall in favour of teh extreemists:rolleyes:

better still..

why dont all these leaders of various muslim communities that liek to speak on local and regional news so much about how they are peacefull and are against extreemists groups back up their mouths and arrange a counter protest and form a barracade around teh town preventing it from happening.Say what you liek about islam but they sure enjoy a protest march so its win win for both sides of the faith

Boeing Guy 02-01-2010 14:20

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Or even the Black Watch popping into town.
For me, they should bring the lads back from Helmand, they would soon sort these idiots out.

accyman 02-01-2010 14:23

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 774589)
Or even the Black Watch popping into town.
For me, they should bring the lads back from Helmand, they would soon sort these idiots out.


theres more chance of us getting done for enciting riot for suggesting what we have on here than these extreemists scum getting arrested:rolleyes:

i may go play some call of duty at least i can shoot terrorists there and not get slung in prison...

well at the moment i can but it wont be long before you cant:rolleyes:

BLACKBURN RAVER 02-01-2010 14:54

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Wynonie Harris 02-01-2010 15:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 774571)
If this is a genuine proposal then quite clearly it should be banned. I would have thought that the police have the powers on the grounds of pubic safety. If not then the Government should put a stop to it.

Well said, Bernard, let's see if the bigwigs at the top of your party think like you.

Incidentally, if this march does go ahead, I wonder if Unite against Fascism and all the other leftwing groups who come out to protest against rightwing extremist marches will stage a protest against this one?

Somehow, I doubt it. :rolleyes:

cashman 02-01-2010 15:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 774616)
Well said, Bernard, let's see if the bigwigs at the top of your party think like you.

Incidentally, if this march does go ahead, I wonder if Unite against Fascism and all the other leftwing groups who come out to protest against rightwing extremist marches will stage a protest against this one?

Somehow, I doubt it. :rolleyes:

thats a good reply bernard, have ya noticed though wyn? not 1 of our "Young" political gob heads ever comments on owt like this, not just councillors.:rolleyes:

Wynonie Harris 02-01-2010 16:07

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 774621)
thats a good reply bernard, have ya noticed though wyn? not 1 of our "Young" political gob heads ever comments on owt like this, not just councillors.:rolleyes:

Quite agree, Cashy, let's be hearing from you, Andrew!

cherokee 02-01-2010 17:39

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Well I just hope that this doesnt go ahead, It would be heartbreaking if the powers that be allow this to take place.

It would be the ultimate insult to our boys and girls and a further stab in the heart for the families of our fallen heroes.

For gods sake there,d be hell to pay should this be the other way round.:mad:

Its High time this country got a grip and put its foot down before the public take things into their own hands Which I fear is what will happen should this protest go ahead.:mad:

shillelagh 02-01-2010 17:56

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if he actually wants to plan a march to remember the dead of afghanistan then he should organise a march in Kabul ...rather than Wooton Bassett ... what has Wooton Bassett got to do with the citizens of afghanistan who have died ....

cherokee 02-01-2010 18:06

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 774653)
if he actually wants to plan a march to remember the dead of afghanistan then he should organise a march in kabul ...rather than wooton bassett ... What has wooton bassett got to do with the citizens of afghanistan who have died ....




absolutely!!!!

cashman 02-01-2010 23:02

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 774623)
Quite agree, Cashy, let's be hearing from you, Andrew!

Sadly i can only see 2 possible reasons why some people have not commented about this outrage,(1) they don't give a monkeys. (2) they must agree wi the P.C./ Do-Gooders, n think its fine to go ahead wi this demo. hope i am wrong,:(

Mancie 03-01-2010 04:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 774653)
if he actually wants to plan a march to remember the dead of afghanistan then he should organise a march in Kabul ...rather than Wooton Bassett ... what has Wooton Bassett got to do with the citizens of afghanistan who have died ....

That just about sums up my thoughts.... if this is to be an anti war in Aftganistan march then that would not be something new..but to even think about holding demo's or a march in Wooton Bassett is disrespectful and simply causing trouble.

SPUGGIE J 03-01-2010 08:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 774704)
Sadly i can only see 2 possible reasons why some people have not commented about this outrage,(1) they don't give a monkeys. (2) they must agree wi the P.C./ Do-Gooders, n think its fine to go ahead wi this demo. hope i am wrong,:(

If this is the case then we are in a big pile of cow muck. The bit that gets my goat is that the P.C brigade think they have the right to tell us how to think and behave. It is though they believe we are unable to think about or make choices for ourselves. It is this kind of attitude that makes matters worse and helps inflate the tensions we have. Those that might not give a monkeys are sitting in la la land thinking the world is perfect with no conflicts or war.

If an anti demo demo went ahead (doubt it though) then it would be in the eyes of some that the anti demo demo would be the cause of any trouble that might flare up. It seems to be that they dare not nip actions like this in the bud so that it dosnt flare up. They are rantings and ravings about what this country is doing and that to the thinking of a very small minority we should be punished. Yet these same people like the idea that they can have a demo that is our right when it suits. Stinks of double standards.

jaysay 03-01-2010 09:21

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The most galling think is that these people(was searching for a better word, but think it would have been censored) are even thinking of blighting the people of Wootton Bassett with any sort of demo. They turn out in force come rain or shine, to honor our lads who have fallen in battle, nobody as ever asked them to do it, they do it out of respect, and for these cretins to target them is the lowest of the low

SPUGGIE J 03-01-2010 09:30

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Makes me wonder if they like the idea of Muslim countries having dictators. Yet these are people that have fled tyranny to have a better life. Many do settle and are happy but yet again the very very small minority blight them and the beliefs. It is getting to the stage that it is starting to look like the infamous Spanish Inquisition or is that my imagination?

vera 03-01-2010 09:50

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Spuggie, please do not jinx Spain with the Inquisition. I have not heard any racism, it is peaceful and idyllic. Oh yes, and sunny :rolleyes:

SPUGGIE J 03-01-2010 10:11

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Originally Posted by vera (Post 774759)
Spuggie, please do not jinx Spain with the Inquisition. I have not heard any racism, it is peaceful and idyllic. Oh yes, and sunny :rolleyes:


Sorry Vera I was using it as a point of reference based on what happened in them dark days. At least Spain left all that religious crud behind. There were other countries at it as well in one form and another France and Holland I think but that was several hundred years later and also England under Queen Mary I. Yet it seems we have not learned from the past and are heading down that dark road again.

Wynonie Harris 03-01-2010 10:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 774704)
Sadly i can only see 2 possible reasons why some people have not commented about this outrage,(1) they don't give a monkeys. (2) they must agree wi the P.C./ Do-Gooders, n think its fine to go ahead wi this demo. hope i am wrong,:(

One of the reasons why is that the Guardian-reading, bleeding heart liberal brigade refuse to condemn anyone who is a muslim, even fascist islamists like this. It's considered not quite the done thing.

If this march does go ahead, you won't see any leftwing protests against it or agonised letters in the liberal press, as you would against a rightwing extremist protest.

As for the government standing up to the terrorists, you must be joking. They're even using our money to fund them!

Detroit bomber's mentor continues to influence British mosques and universities - Telegraph

shakermaker 03-01-2010 11:22

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A friend of mine who is training in the British Army sent me the link to the website that was set up for this 'cause'. Needless to say it knocked us both sick; the language and aggression shown made it clear that the only reason for setting this website up is to spark racial hatred and violence. The only thing that makes it more sad is the fact that they are doing this in the name of the innocent deceased, who they clearly do not care about at all.

cashman 03-01-2010 13:29

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 774801)
A friend of mine who is training in the British Army sent me the link to the website that was set up for this 'cause'. Needless to say it knocked us both sick; the language and aggression shown made it clear that the only reason for setting this website up is to spark racial hatred and violence. The only thing that makes it more sad is the fact that they are doing this in the name of the innocent deceased, who they clearly do not care about at all.

Agree Shaker but the 64.000 dollar question remains, What n When will "ANY" british goverment do anything about this problem? :mad:

Sara 03-01-2010 18:34

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Think it's disgusting if this march is allowed to go ahead. Just leave's me speachless that some group are allowed to organize such a thing. If it was the other way round i am sure that we would be prosecuted for stirring up racial hatered, discrimination or such like. (Can't really express how i feel but it is one of disgust and disbelief.)

But for some reason i have a feeling someone will step in and it won't be allowed, after all we are in an election year and the goverment will be after every vote they can get.

accyman 04-01-2010 13:00

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personally i think its a good idea having these extreemist idiots all in one place at a specific time and date.

anyone else seeing teh potential for a wide spread firing weapon here :D

DaveinGermany 04-01-2010 22:14

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Sad sad state of affairs, one of those lads brought home last September was a friend, and the job I do at present working with the families brings you really close to the Heartbreak and upset, these incidents cause. I find it unbelievable that a government who condones the sending of our troops to another mans war, can stand by so passively and let these A***H**** get away with this atrocious behavior. Is it any wonder there is so much hatred ? I suppose living over here prevents me getting into trouble in UK, because I'm damn sure I know what I'd be doing to these people and their protests.

cashman 04-01-2010 22:44

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Funnily enough Gordon Brown condemed this protest on the evening news tonight, Did NOT actually say he was banning it.:mad:

Bernard Dawson 04-01-2010 23:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 775416)
Funnily enough Gordon Brown condemed this protest on the evening news tonight, Did NOT actually say he was banning it.:mad:


I see that Alan Johnson the Home Secretary has said tonight that he would support any request from the Local Authority or the Police to have the march banned.

cashman 04-01-2010 23:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 775421)
I see that Alan Johnson the Home Secretary has said tonight that he would support any request from the Local Authority or the Police to have the march banned.

Fair enough Bernard, but i would have expected the P.M. to make that statement.

Bernard Dawson 04-01-2010 23:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 775424)
Fair enough Bernard, but i would have expected the P.M. to make that statement.


I think it's the Home Office that deals with demonstrations and public order issues.

cashman 04-01-2010 23:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 775425)
I think it's the Home Office that deals with demonstrations and public order issues.

yep but the P.M. is lord n master, the fact he said nowt dismays me.

andrewb 04-01-2010 23:45

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 774623)
Quite agree, Cashy, let's be hearing from you, Andrew!

I'd not read this thread up until now. I think it's a disgrace that they are allowed to hold a march and air these extremist views in Wootton Bassett of all places.

There are already 335,000 people on a Facebook group condemning it, which largely reflects the outrage here too. Any man and woman in the street can see the march is setup to create division and conflict and no politically correct do-gooder should excuse it.

Bernard Dawson 04-01-2010 23:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 775426)
yep but the P.M. is lord n master, the fact he said nowt dismays me.

The main thing Cashy, is that the march is not allowed to take place.

cashman 04-01-2010 23:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 775430)
The main thing Cashy, is that the march is not allowed to take place.

Quite agree, but as n election is looming, rather thick not to say owt.IMHO.

garinda 05-01-2010 00:10

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It should be pointed out, as it was on tonight's news, that this group haven't applied to march anywhere yet, it's purely an 'idea' at this stage.

An idea that seems to have had the desired effect, publicity.

garinda 05-01-2010 00:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 775428)
I'd not read this thread up until now.

You really should try and broaden your horizons.

All that time trawling through Greg Pope's and the Blue Care Bear's websites can't be good for you.

You should spend your time on the internet looking at mucky pictures, and non-political threads on A.W.

cashman 05-01-2010 00:16

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 775438)
It should be pointed out, as it was on tonight's news, that this group haven't applied to march anywhere yet, it's purely an 'idea' at this stage.

An idea that seems to have had the desired effect, publicity.

the desired effect fer them, yeh, the desired effect fer me would be boot the scum out of the country, if not born here, if they are slam em up.:(

garinda 05-01-2010 00:22

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 775440)
the desired effect fer them, yeh, the desired effect fer me would be boot the scum out of the country, if not born here, if they are slam em up.:(

You're right.

All this publicity, and public outcry, might mean this group are now banned, and it's leader jailed for inciting hatred...hopefully.

cjrockman 05-01-2010 00:46

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this march is totally wrong and if it goes ahead i for one will go down there and stand in the road to stop them!! anyone with me on that?

accyman 05-01-2010 04:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 775440)
the desired effect fer them, yeh, the desired effect fer me would be boot the scum out of the country, if not born here, if they are slam em up.:(

boot them out regardless of where they were born and let them try living in the countries they love so much

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Originally Posted by cjrockman (Post 775443)
this march is totally wrong and if it goes ahead i for one will go down there and stand in the road to stop them!! anyone with me on that?

load up with pork chops and happy slap them with them if they try getting past, disrespect can work both ways :dummy2:

jaysay 05-01-2010 09:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 775446)
boot them out regardless of where they were born and let them try living in the countries they love so much



load up with pork chops and happy slap them with them if they try getting past, disrespect can work both ways :dummy2:

Pork chops accyman, to good for them, lets just keep to pig swill:rolleyes:

LYNX1 05-01-2010 09:12

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[quote=accyman;775446]boot them out regardless of where they were born and let them try living in the countries they love so much


Think that would be the ideal solution......or we could get the boys back and let them fight the scumbags here and give them carte blanche to do what is needed........I know what I would suggest and it's got nowt to do with pork chops........If only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Barrie Yates 05-01-2010 15:22

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I thought that "Incitement to Racial Hatred" was a criminal offence? If that is true then why has Choudry not been arrested and his fellow organisers of Islam4UK not been arrested?

LYNX1 05-01-2010 15:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 775598)
I thought that "Incitement to Racial Hatred" was a criminal offence? If that is true then why has Choudry not been arrested and his fellow organisers of Islam4UK not been arrested?

Hate to admit it but our government are sh*t scared of them...........give the public the go ahead and they would be dealt with swiftly, and the government could sit back and say "well, we didn't do it, it was those nasty common people".........would suit me fine if we could get rid of the scumbags once and for all, whatever it takes!!!!!!!!!!

Barrie Yates 05-01-2010 16:42

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I don't know if this will work or even if it is the right place for it - but to me, this iswhat e, the British are all about. Hop i works and I hope tyat anyon who listensto it gets the same reaction I did
YouTube - In 2010 'We Will Remember Them'. A Military Tribute. CD / DVD Out Now

BERNADETTE 05-01-2010 16:49

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Brilliant Barrie says it all for me

LYNX1 05-01-2010 17:02

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Gave me goosebumps Barrie.....it's fantastic...says it all

DaveinGermany 05-01-2010 17:16

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It's in a very similar vein as the type of songs/remembrances our Colonial cousins in the States do, but usually they tend to be a little more over the top, having said that check out "If you're reading this " by Tim McGraw. Anyway very fitting and very British, I liked it

cashman 05-01-2010 18:22

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spot on Barrie, though the right place fer that to be is in No 10 Downing street.

LYNX1 05-01-2010 20:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 775676)
spot on Barrie, though the right place fer that to be is in No 10 Downing street.


Don't think there's enough room under the carpet cashy..nice thought tho

Sara 06-01-2010 11:51

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Thankyou for that Barrie, absolutely fantastic.

Barrie Yates 06-01-2010 16:58

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I have worked for approximately 17 years in Saudi Arabia.
No religous services other than Muslim except at the Embassies. You follow the rules of the country - you cannot protest in public against the laws. You accept the job/country and you live by their rules. If you break them then you spend time in Prison and are then kicked out of the country never ever to return. Bye the way - there are no Christian Churches allowed in Saudi Arabia which is the centre if the Islamic Faith and Christians or other non-muslims cannot be buried there.

cherokee 06-01-2010 23:56

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Brilliant Barrie

Says it all

BLACKBURN RAVER 07-01-2010 00:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 775992)
I have worked for approximately 17 years in Saudi Arabia.
No religous services other than Muslim except at the Embassies. You follow the rules of the country - you cannot protest in public against the laws. You accept the job/country and you live by their rules. If you break them then you spend time in Prison and are then kicked out of the country never ever to return. Bye the way - there are no Christian Churches allowed in Saudi Arabia which is the centre if the Islamic Faith and Christians or other non-muslims cannot be buried there.


very true but if we did that in our country we would be classed as racist !!! i recently joined a group on facebook called "why are whites the only race that can be racist ? ".....to me that pretty much says it all, by no means am i racist but it just seems nowadays that the law is always against us !!!!

accyman 07-01-2010 01:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BLACKBURN RAVER (Post 776161)
"why are whites the only race that can be racist ? ".....to me that pretty much says it all, by no means am i racist but it just seems nowadays that the law is always against us !!!!

because when we disagree with somthing we have a good grumble and get on with life

when they disagree with somthing they riot , call for beheadings or parade through the street screaming and shouting that they are peacefull

now if you wanted an easy life in power wouldnt you just give the noisey ones what they want and ignore the silent grumblers because that is how it works at number 10

LYNX1 07-01-2010 07:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 776167)
because when we disagree with somthing we have a good grumble and get on with life

when they disagree with somthing they riot , call for beheadings or parade through the street screaming and shouting that they are peacefull

now if you wanted an easy life in power wouldnt you just give the noisey ones what they want and ignore the silent grumblers because that is how it works at number 10


That's so true..........always been the same with the brits tho, as you said have a moan, get nowhere and give up....we never stick to our guns, pardon the pun, and see things thro.........but nowadays we know we'll get nowhere...so why bother :(

jaysay 07-01-2010 10:42

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Hate cleric Anjem Choudary on £25k benefits | The Sun |News
Marvelous ain't it this purveyor of hate, shouldn't get a penny

SPUGGIE J 07-01-2010 10:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 776241)
Hate cleric Anjem Choudary on £25k benefits | The Sun |News
Marvelous ain't it this purveyor of hate, shouldn't get a penny

Hates the country hates what it stands for but willing to accept OUR MONEY and money paid in tax BY OUR DEAD SOLDIERS!!! I would stop all his benefits ungreatful !"£$%^%$£$%^&^%$%^&*(*&^%$%^&*(

Wynonie Harris 07-01-2010 11:20

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 774505)
From the filth this man is coming out with, taking advantage of the democracy he apparently so despises, and if we had a Home Secretary with any real balls, this man should be imprisoned for treason and inciting hatred at this very minute, not planning any bloody protests in Wootton Bassett.

This is what should have happened to the scum.

The fact that Brown and his gutless Home Secretary didn't have the courage to embark on this course of action...and the fact that Cameron didn't have the courage to suggest it says a lot about the politicians of this country.

cashman 07-01-2010 11:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 776255)
This is what should have happened to the scum.

The fact that Brown and his gutless Home Secretary didn't have the courage to embark on this course of action...and the fact that Cameron didn't have the courage to suggest it says a lot about the politicians of this country.

that to me is the important qualification! "ALL" of our leaders n pretenders to lead are total "Gutless" *******.:mad:

BLACKBURN RAVER 07-01-2010 11:29

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as much as i hate to say it, and il probabally get slated for doing so, but, the only way to get rid of these fanatical, racist idiots (not the majority of muslims i hasten to add) is to vote BNP, they would have the gonads to stand up and be counted, stop the benefits, kick them out and say bye bye once and for all !!!...i dont want to, nor do i feel i should have to but unfortunately the yellow bellied government are forcing my hand !!!...its time to put a stop to being a walk over to these parasites who are intent on stirring the muck !!!

accyman 07-01-2010 11:39

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i suppose if teh bnp got in they could get to work deporting these scum and once they have had a bit of a clear out there are ways of getting them out of power early,they cant really screw up the enonomy anymore so it couldnt hurt to give them 6 months or so in power before booting them out lol

i can see how people who arnt racist can be tempted to vote bnp though because even the most patient of us are getting fed up with both labour and conservitives been spineless and constantly selling us down teh river and lets face it the soft ass liberal democrats would let them get away with even more than what they do now

shakermaker 07-01-2010 11:51

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The government have to do something substantial quickly. Just look what we have here; sensible people thinking that in some way it's a good idea to vote BNP; that it would get something done. A vote spoiled is better than a vote for BNP and is much better for the country.

andrewb 07-01-2010 11:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BLACKBURN RAVER (Post 776260)
as much as i hate to say it, and il probabally get slated for doing so, but, the only way to get rid of these fanatical, racist idiots (not the majority of muslims i hasten to add) is to vote BNP, they would have the gonads to stand up and be counted, stop the benefits, kick them out and say bye bye once and for all !!!...i dont want to, nor do i feel i should have to but unfortunately the yellow bellied government are forcing my hand !!!...its time to put a stop to being a walk over to these parasites who are intent on stirring the muck !!!


A vote for the BNP is just a good way to keep Labour in. Labour have not exactly been the best at handling these sort of issues have they..

accyman 07-01-2010 12:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 776268)
A vote for the BNP is just a good way to keep Labour in. Labour have not exactly been the best at handling these sort of issues have they..


and your lot wouldnt do jack either, they may say they will but once in power wouldnt do a damn thing infact they would make legitimate peoples lives in britain harder

BLACKBURN RAVER 07-01-2010 12:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 776268)
A vote for the BNP is just a good way to keep Labour in. Labour have not exactly been the best at handling these sort of issues have they..

and nor would the tories be , they are just as spineless !!!

Eric 07-01-2010 12:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 776268)
A vote for the BNP is just a good way to keep Labour in. Labour have not exactly been the best at handling these sort of issues have they..

What a crock! If people are considering a vote for the BNP, it's as much a protest against the conservatives as it is against Labour ... if voters had any faith in the Conservative party's ability to address the problem they would be talking about voting tory, not BNP .... and the implication is that the BNP is attracting conservative voters. So, you are suggesting perhaps that the BNP are merely tories with slightly extreme views:rolleyes:

Mancie 07-01-2010 14:01

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There is no way this "march" will go ahead..it will be banned by this Government..just as it would be banned under the Tories, and as far as any BNP Government goes they could only ban the march..nothing else.
I believe that under present law the local council or the police have to request any ban..and the Government have said any such request will result in a ban.

Wynonie Harris 07-01-2010 14:13

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Would emigrate before I'd vote for the BNP, personally. It doesn't have to be a right wing extremist government to have the balls to take action on this. Can you imagine the Yank or the French government standing for this sort of thing? They'd have sorted it out by now.

However, the fact that traditional Labour voters are considering voting for the BNP should have both main parties - and all of us - worried. :(

andrewb 07-01-2010 15:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 776274)
What a crock! If people are considering a vote for the BNP, it's as much a protest against the conservatives as it is against Labour ... if voters had any faith in the Conservative party's ability to address the problem they would be talking about voting tory, not BNP .... and the implication is that the BNP is attracting conservative voters. So, you are suggesting perhaps that the BNP are merely tories with slightly extreme views:rolleyes:

Quite the contrary. Most evidence available shows a drift from Labour to the BNP.

You can see why, if you look at the BNP policies, they are just a racist Labour party.


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