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...and when did they ditch democracy, especially at grassroots level?

:rolleyes:

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Here also, you go into some pubs & folk are happily smoking away with out a care in the world, sat in a Bistro last night with friends some of whom smoke, they got up wandered away about 5 metres to the smoking room. Last week in a little German Pub place full of smokers sat at the bar fags on the counter & smoking.

Landlord totally unconcerned, even handing out matches to them that had no lighter, with the pub name on them too !! Strange considering the supposed total ban across Europe, could it be that other Countries aren't quite so draconian & controlling of their Citizenry ???

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Well said Dave! You can obviously speak from experience, I too can speak from my own experience as a plumbing and heating engineer when I say that the reason more people die from faulty boilers (which are not used as much as here), is because they dont adhere to building regulations the same either, yet my qualifications are set in Brussels and the certificates issued in some cases from Zurich.

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Germans have enjoyed fags in their bars since the Kaiser's day.

Some bars were exclusively reserved for the enjoyment of fags.

:D

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is it true you can still smoke in the house of commons bars ?

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it was after smoking ban was introduced scoot66, i think now its been stopped? sure someone will correct if not the case.

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MPs plan Pugin-style smoking shelter | Politics | guardian.co.uk just found this.

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The BNP gain a couple of boroughs each time there are local elections and now have an MEP as well. This ruffled quite a few feathers and afterwards, coincidentally or not, there was a spate of deportations and a perceived review of Visa laws. There was even talk of taking measures on immigration to cap the UK population at 70m.

I myself am very skeptical that any major reforms have taken place (although I don't speak for anyone else) but a recent opinion poll put UKIP in second place just ahead of Labour. I don't give much credence to any of them as each poll is conducted in such a way as to give a certain result but even so if I were Prime Minister that would certainly give me food for thought.

I've never lived through a coalition government but if it truly does benefit the people and allows both sides of the fence an equal hearing then it doesn't sound an entirely bad thing. I'm sure there is evidence from Winston Churchill's time to argue against it but it's still an interesting idea.

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i like the bit were it says they`ve been having a crafty smoke in their offices,very schoolkids behind the bikesheds :D:D:D

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i thought they can smoke in teh house of commons but as a courtesy to us they dont voulentary

now if they could only show us a bit more courtesty and stop treating us like naughty children and also ask US about important decisions like the EU and give us that damn referendum we are owed that woudl be super

if france can stick two fingers up at europe whenver it fancies im sure we can do it once

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Smoking isn't allowed in the Houses of Parliament.

They were going to exempt themselves, until it became public knowledge, and the cries of hypocrisy made them have a change of heart.

:rolleyes:

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so basicaly as usual they told us to do one thing but are preppard to do another themslves and only retract when caught

if they think we wont want the same thing as them they dont ask us and ignore us like were nothing i bet if public opinion was for teh EU we would have got a referendum but they knew damn well the overwhelming majority were gainst it so didnt ask.

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RINDA !! :D pack it in !!! :D yer a bad man, behave yourself !!! :D :D

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Labour have democracy at grass routs level when it suits them, unfortunately you can't ask George Slynn about this as he's no longer with us

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Hypocrisy at the heart of government heaven forbid:D