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g jones 19-03-2010 16:02

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I agree with Jaysay. It should only be available to those that respect it.

cashman 19-03-2010 16:06

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 798579)
'I hold dear the right of freedom of speech, freedom of expression...'
Karen Buckley

That's good to hear, beacuse that's all that is happening in this thread.

"Last but not least is my own personal priority,to be open to scrutiny" Karen says on that link, Seems not on "Accyweb" though.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

DaveinGermany 19-03-2010 16:08

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 798580)
I agree with Jaysay. It should only be available to those that respect it.

And those people would be who exactly ? considering if you start to turn people away guess what the first call will be ? yep...... "I've got rights you know !" so how can you balance that one ? what criteria will you work off ?

Wynonie Harris 19-03-2010 16:12

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You know something? I almost feel like I know Kaz (as I like to call her) already. When she eventually drops into the Oak Lea for a prematch drink (as I'm sure she will now she's a local), I can just picture the scene...Cashy, me, the lads, Graham, Kaz, the beer flowing, a real spirit of bonhomie and lively political discussion in the air and when she hears Cashy's jokes...I can't wait to see her reaction! :D

garinda 19-03-2010 16:18

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 798586)
You know something? I almost feel like I know Kaz (as I like to call her) already. When she eventually drops into the Oak Lea for a prematch drink (as I'm sure she will now she's a local), I can just picture the scene...Cashy, me, the lads, Graham, Kaz, the beer flowing, a real spirit of bonhomie and lively political discussion in the air and when she hears Cashy's jokes...I can't wait to see her reaction! :D

They say all publicity is good publicity.

At least that's what Jaysay used to think, because he used to refuse to post the name of any opposition candidate.

We've all tried to give this outsider to the area, a more human face, in this thread.

Her first post well probably be one of thanks.

garinda 19-03-2010 16:23

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They say a week's a long time in politics.

A week ago we didn' even have a Conservative candidate, now we're seeing lots of media coverage about Ms. Buckley. The press, local forums, blogs, even on YouTube.

YouTube - Blog The Week Episode 11

Less 19-03-2010 17:28

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 798591)
They say a week's a long time in politics.

A week ago we didn' even have a Conservative candidate, now we're seeing lots of media coverage about Ms. Buckley. The press, local forums, blogs, even on YouTube.

YouTube - Blog The Week Episode 11

Wow! That was nearly amusing, well done the team that threw it together, I really liked the link mans impression of andrewB, did you use prosthetics to get the look completely right? or are you just a computer facsimile?

I hope you all take the time to join us here on accyweb, it could add some alternative humour and allow our older jokers some time off.

Thanks for that rindy.
:):D

Eric 19-03-2010 18:35

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 798605)
Wow! That was nearly amusing, well done the team that threw it together, I really liked the link mans impression of andrewB, did you use prosthetics to get the look completely right? or are you just a computer facsimile?

I hope you all take the time to join us here on accyweb, it could add some alternative humour and allow our older jokers some time off.

Thanks for that rindy.
:):D

Alternative humor? Wouldn't that belong in Over 18s?:confused:

garinda 20-03-2010 09:00

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'Hi! I'm Karen Buckley, The Turtlesinger, and here for you to enjoy reading are the song lyrics to my first CD.'

Personal Page of KAREN BUCKLEY: SONG LYRICS!

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

jaysay 20-03-2010 09:09

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 798573)
Allelujah, Jaysay! You and Graham actually agree on something!

Well Wyn I would be very surprised if Graham and myself didn't agree on something like this, all right minded people would feel the same

jaysay 20-03-2010 09:13

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 798589)
They say all publicity is good publicity.

At least that's what Jaysay used to think, because he used to refuse to post the name of any opposition candidate.

We've all tried to give this outsider to the area, a more human face, in this thread.

Her first post well probably be one of thanks.

Why come on here communicating with names not people, when she can talk to people face to face on the doorstep;)

jaysay 20-03-2010 09:14

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 798576)
shouldnt that read Sir John Betjeman jaysay? :D

Ya could even be him as well Jen:D

cashman 20-03-2010 09:20

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 798752)
Why come on here communicating with names not people, when she can talk to people face to face on the doorstep;)

she would be better off coming on here, than knocking at your door, n certain other local stalwarts methinks.:D

MargaretR 20-03-2010 09:22

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 798749)
'Hi! I'm Karen Buckley, The Turtlesinger, and here for you to enjoy reading are the song lyrics to my first CD.'

Personal Page of KAREN BUCKLEY:* SONG LYRICS!

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Hilarious - all the Michelles in Hyndburn will vote for her now:D

garinda 20-03-2010 09:23

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 798756)
she would be better off coming on here, than knocking at your door, n certain other local stalwarts methinks.:D

I might even offer to go 'on the knock' with her myself, when she's doing New Lane.

:p:D:p

garinda 20-03-2010 09:28

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 798757)
Hilarious - all the Michelles in Hyndburn will vote for her now:D


I'd better just point out this isn't the Conservative candidate Karen Buckley.

The Gulf Stream may be responsible for washing up all sorts on to the beach on the Fylde coast, but I don't think they have many tropical, song inspiring, reptiles on to the Golden Mile's beautiful sands.

:rolleyes::D

jaysay 20-03-2010 09:39

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 798559)
A former public schoolgirl, nicknamed Buckers,
At Queen Mary's hung out with some very rich muckers.
They all set off for the beach, but she slipped on a peach,
And she got laughed at by the assembled posh.................onlookers.

Just a looking from the other side Rindi:D

There was a labour politician from Hodder Street
who is always about on his beat
they say he's so good, he's having a punt
cuz he wants to be Hyndburn's MP
:D:D:D:D

Wynonie Harris 20-03-2010 09:48

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I'm confidently expecting Kazzer to turn up in the Oak Lea this afternoon for a few beers with us. Reckon she might even come up on the Clayton End with Cashy and moi...plenty of chanting from the Ultras, pie and chips at half time...soon Leafy Lytham will be no more than a distant memory!

garinda 20-03-2010 10:10

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 798772)
Just a looking from the other side Rindi:D

There was a labour politician from Hodder Street
who is always about on his beat
they say he's so good, he's having a punt
cuz he wants to be Hyndburn's MP
:D:D:D:D


That's rubbish.

;)

There was a red politican called Jones.
Who could sense victory was close, in his bones.
Whilst out on the knock, he discoverd in shock,
The blue army had turned t' helpful clones.

:D

jaysay 20-03-2010 10:13

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 798782)
That's rubbish.

;)

There was a red politican called Jones.
Who could sense victory was close, in his bones.
Whilst out on the knock, he discoverd in shock,
The blue army had turned t' helpful clones.

:D

Don't actually think thats true Rindi they'd see him in hell first, I wanted to put it another way but mick would have bared me:D

garinda 20-03-2010 10:21

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 798784)
Don't actually think thats true Rindi they'd see him in hell first, I wanted to put it another way but mick would have bared me:D

Not what my friendly blue Moley tells me.

;)

I heard that they are wishing Graham Jones a stunning victory, which will mean they'll have the ammo to argue with CCO that they should be allowed to pick their own favoured candidate.

Though of course they're also hoping for a hung parliament. Which means their sneaky derring-do will be implemented in the very near future, if there's another General Election.

God forbid....that we could all cope with the excitment of going through all this fun again.

garinda 20-03-2010 10:26

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 798788)
Not what my friendly blue Moley tells me.

;)


I wonder if we'll ever see anyone with this avatar on Accy Web?

:rolleyes:

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

garinda 20-03-2010 10:27

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It pays to talk.

(...and to be friendly with lots of different people.)

:D

jaysay 20-03-2010 10:31

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 798788)
Not what my friendly blue Moly tells me.

;)

I heard that they are wishing Graham Jones a stunning victory, which will mean they'll have the ammo to argue with CCO that they should be allowed to pick their own favoured candidate.

Though of course they're also hoping for a hung parliament. Which means their sneaky derring-do will be implemented in the very near future, if there's another General Election.

God forbid....that we could all cope with the excitment of going through all this fun again.

Do you never think that Blue Moley is feeding you bull shine Rindi, you tend to be quite gullible;)

garinda 20-03-2010 10:37

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 798795)
Do you never think that Blue Moley is feeding you bull shine Rindi, you tend to be quite gullible;)

No.

Moley was right at the heart of things re: the aborted plan for someone to stand under an Independent Conservative banner.

I can supply time, date, and location of one such meeting.

Though the live cam was a bit rubbish, as there was one of those giant pepper grinders spoling the view.

:D

Wynonie Harris 20-03-2010 21:17

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Quite a disappointing afternoon, in more ways than one! No sign of Kazzer in the pub (unless she was quaffing light ales and prawn cocktail flavoured crisps with the Rochdale fans at the other side). Still, she's probably still back in Lytham, wrapping her ornaments in newspaper. There's so much to do when you're flitting to a new town! Easter Monday afternoon perhaps, Kaz? :)

cashman 20-03-2010 21:21

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 798966)
Quite a disappointing afternoon, in more ways than one! No sign of Kazzer in the pub (unless she was quaffing light ales and prawn cocktail flavoured crisps with the Rochdale fans at the other side). Still, she's probably still back in Lytham, wrapping her ornaments in newspaper. There's so much to do when you're flitting to a new town! Easter Monday afternoon perhaps, Kaz? :)

is there not a match "Good Friday"? perhaps that would be more apt.:D

Wynonie Harris 20-03-2010 21:35

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 798970)
is there not a match "Good Friday"? perhaps that would be more apt.:D

It would be, but it's definitely Easter Monday. You'll be able to tell her some of your stories about getting chucked out of pubs around town. Should be quite an eye-opener for her! :D

garinda 20-03-2010 22:46

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 798966)
Quite a disappointing afternoon, in more ways than one! No sign of Kazzer in the pub (unless she was quaffing light ales and prawn cocktail flavoured crisps with the Rochdale fans at the other side). Still, she's probably still back in Lytham, wrapping her ornaments in newspaper. There's so much to do when you're flitting to a new town! Easter Monday afternoon perhaps, Kaz? :)

Give a girl a chance.

You jolly well know it's still the hockey season too.

She has been to Stanley.

Just not when they were playing.

There's a photograph in her gallery to prove it.

'Go Stanlington! Rah, rah, rah!'

http://www.karenbuckley.info/

BERNADETTE 20-03-2010 23:01

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For goodness sake give her a break, sorry but reading the comments on this thread would put the bravest person off IMHO. Give her a chance the lot of you, in fact in reflection I wonder if an outsider might not be the best choice for both sides. Ok Graham might be a great ward councillor as is Peter in his ward(or neither of them would still be elected councillors for their area) but maybe we need somebody who is looking at the whole of the borough with no prejudice for any given area. Just my thoughts:)

g jones 20-03-2010 23:07

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I think that's one of the issues. No one knows who Ms Buckley is.

garinda 20-03-2010 23:15

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 799000)
For goodness sake give her a break

If you deem yourself to be someone fit to take public office, then you choose to put yourself in the public arena.

Head above the parapet.

No one is marched to candidate selection meetings with a gun to their back.

There's been nothing libellous posted.

I hope they've (eventually) chosen someone able to fight her own battles.

She seems fairly forthright when giving her views, and opinions.

If she is successful in Hyndburn, and goes on to hold high office, should she be wrapped up in cotton wool?

I don't think the political satire television programmes, and magazine publications, hold much back when it comes to dishing it out.

As stated earlier, if she does post, if I was her, my first words would be one of thanks, for helping to raise the profile for a relatively unknown outsider.

garinda 20-03-2010 23:17

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 799004)
I think that's one of the issues. No one knows who Ms Buckley is.

As her agent, I'm trying my best.

:D

BERNADETTE 20-03-2010 23:19

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 799004)
I think that's one of the issues. No one knows who Ms Buckley is.

So because you don't know them personally says they are not right for the job? As far as I can see under our last couple of MP's Hyndburn has hardly flourished or do you disagree? All or nearly all our major employers have left the area and there doesn't seem to be any great efforts to attract new business to the area. Maybe, just maybe we need an outsiders input into how to attract new employers. After all the present lot don't seem to be to bothered!!!!

garinda 20-03-2010 23:19

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...and again, this might seem concentrated interest in one candidate, but the others we've had time to get to know for months and months.

I began my assasination of Kev the Rev, and his vile meanderings, last Autumn.

;)

cashman 20-03-2010 23:20

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 799000)
For goodness sake give her a break,

Starting with both legs?:D

BERNADETTE 20-03-2010 23:24

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 799011)
Starting with both legs?:D

****** off you:p And now I will bow out of this thread (well for the time being) but just for the record I think she is getting a hard time from our members:(

garinda 20-03-2010 23:25

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 799009)
So because you don't know them personally says they are not right for the job? As far as I can see under our last couple of MP's Hyndburn has hardly flourished or do you disagree? All or nearly all our major employers have left the area and there doesn't seem to be any great efforts to attract new business to the area. Maybe, just maybe we need an outsiders input into how to attract new employers. After all the present lot don't seem to be to bothered!!!!


She might be just the person for the job.

Time will tell.

For someone who only joined a political party after hearing Cameon speak about 'the family', in 2007, and a background as a solicitor, specialising in family law, the omens don't look too great that she'll have the experience or contacts, to rebuild heavy industry in the area.

Time will tell.

garinda 20-03-2010 23:29

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 799012)
just for the record I think she is getting a hard time from our members:(

The same could be said of every one of our members, who choose to enter politics, and feel they have what it takes, to influence the lives of others.

BERNADETTE 20-03-2010 23:34

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[qoute] Garinda. the omens don't look too great that she'll have the experience or contacts, to rebuild heavy industry in the area.[/quote] No I doubt very much that we will ever rebuild such great industry in the area but maybe with an outsiders perspective it would never have been lost. Unfortunately it has gone and seeing as our local elected representatives failed to save what industry we had left and as far as I can see failed to attract new business an outsider may not be such a bad choice.

garinda 20-03-2010 23:47

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'Lost', 'left'.

It ended.

An historical fact. With reasons as varied as the loss of the captive markets in the countries of the British Empire, cheaper workforces abroad, entry into the E.U., Thatcher's fight with ther unions, and her vision of us as a service, rather than an industrisalised nation, people in this country demanding less expensive consumer durables, regardless of where they were manufactured. The reasons are many fold.

Supply and demand.

Perhaps an 'outsider', a public school educated lawyer from Lytham, is just what Hyndburn needs. Though I look forward to her convincing me of that.

Time will see.

garinda 21-03-2010 00:12

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We actually spoke about some of these issues tonight in the car, on the way home from seeing 'And Did Those Feet', a play set in Bolton in 1923, just after the Great War, and before the General Strike.

There were 600 mills, or associated textile firms in Bolton, equally as numerous as this area

An area where there was jobs for all, in the past.

Fed up with one, you'd start at the next on Monday.

Full employment doesn't hide the fact that the majority of people were too poor to send for a doctor, and many people died, because they couldn't afford medicine.

You may have had a job, but that meant you were paying rent to live in relative poverty. Overcrowding, poor sanitation, no money to put coal on the fire, if you also wanted to put bread on the table.

A job, but no paid leave, or holidays, even unpaid time off.

A job, but with no rights or benefits if you were too old or sick to work, or the bosses just didn't need you. You were given your marching orders, and the next lot started on your old shift.

We might have lived in an area where there were a thousand dark, Satanic mills, and jobs a plenty, but lets not get misty eyed about the past.

There were jobs for all, but the lives of the vast majority of people who had those jobs, was hellish. I know because like so many, my family were those workers.

Somethings change for the better, some things for the worse, but change can never be halted.

Some change is definitely for the better, because having 'Shaking Palsy', as it was then known, eighty years ago I'd have been up in Queen's Park Workhouse.

Time will tell if any one politican will have an impact on the job market in Hyndburn.

garinda 21-03-2010 00:20

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Personally I'd rather see addressed the problem of the feckless generation of idle loafers, who've 'chosen' a life without work.

You can have a factory full of vacancies, but if people aren't prepared to work there, because they'll be 'worse off', that needs changing.

The biggest problem is making some people see that working for a living, and contributing to a system, and society, and feeling worthy, is a better option.

Nickelson 21-03-2010 01:12

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Perhaps the Conservatives want to change their leaflet deliverers ?
The one around my end doesnt seem to know how to cross a road, nearly flattened her like a pancake.

steeljack 21-03-2010 03:07

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 799023)
We actually spoke about some of these issues tonight in the car, on the way home from seeing 'And Did Those Feet', a play set in Bolton in 1923, just after the Great War, and before the General Strike.

There were 600 mills, or associated textile firms in Bolton, equally as numerous as this area

An area where there was jobs for all, in the past.

Fed up with one, you'd start at the next on Monday.

Full employment doesn't hide the fact that the majority of people were too poor to send for a doctor, and many people died, because they couldn't afford medicine.

You may have had a job, but that meant you were paying rent to live in relative poverty. Overcrowding, poor sanitation, no money to put coal on the fire, if you also wanted to put bread on the table.

A job, but no paid leave, or holidays, even unpaid time off.

A job, but with no rights or benefits if you were too old or sick to work, or the bosses just didn't need you. You were given your marching orders, and the next lot started on your old shift.

We might have lived in an area where there were a thousand dark, Satanic mills, and jobs a plenty, but lets not get misty eyed about the past.

There were jobs for all, but the lives of the vast majority of people who had those jobs, was hellish. I know because like so many, my family were those workers.

Somethings change for the better, some things for the worse, but change can never be halted.

Some change is definitely for the better, because having 'Shaking Palsy', as it was then known, eighty years ago I'd have been up in Queen's Park Workhouse.

Time will tell if any one politican will have an impact on the job market in Hyndburn.

Will disagree with you on a couple of points , if people were living in such misery and explotation in the "bad old days" how do you explain the rise of the seaside resorts like Blackpool, Morcambe etc. in Lancashire and other similar resorts along the Yorksire coast , these weren't built just for the "Bosses" they were designed and built around the same time the building boom of terraced streets in the Mill towns for the skilled working masses.

Re. the "poverty" of the housing stock at the time , I'm thinking most of the Mill workers who were drawn to work in the cotton towns appreciated the chance to live in a terraced house with an outside lavatory (most probably a tippler type) much better than the one room mud hovels most of the migrating mill workers who came from in Scotland and Ireland ,and looking back took a damn sight more pride in them than they do today,
I'm thinking if you look back through various threads which mention the older Big Houses(Villas/Mansions) where the big bad nasty bosses lived you can see that in Accrington many were in areas adjacent and abutting terraced streets , which seems a bit more democratic to what we see today .

My own opinion is the "rot" started in the days after WW2 , British industry carried on using the same old crap machinery and methods as had been in use from the turn of the century , example ...Germany had to re-build its entire steel industry , what hadn't been bombed was shipped east as reparations to the Russians , so what did the enlightened British politicians do ... they sold the Germans brand new steel plants ,built in antiquated British plants , then wondered why the German industry was more efficient than the British, same thing happened with other industries, post-war politicians cut the throats of the British workers to "create" the social society we see the results of today. ;)

g jones 21-03-2010 07:12

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 799009)
So because you don't know them personally says they are not right for the job? As far as I can see under our last couple of MP's Hyndburn has hardly flourished or do you disagree? All or nearly all our major employers have left the area and there doesn't seem to be any great efforts to attract new business to the area. Maybe, just maybe we need an outsiders input into how to attract new employers. After all the present lot don't seem to be to bothered!!!!

Where she comes from may be a problem. Her current policy she says is to slash funding (including Hyndburn) to get the deficit down. Hyndburn receives a huge amount of Government funding and a lot of jobs will be affected, let alone reductions in schools, hospitals, housing, the Council etc.. I understand these issues and prefer Gordon Brown's managed reduction whilst fighting for the place I live.

Greg Pope MP has had a Labour Government pumping money in to Hyndburn.

There are significant employers in Hyndburn. The Globe employs around 800 people. We do seem to have relied on Blackburn, Whitebirk area and Shadsworth to name to new areas of growth. However there is Senator and Huncoat. This is hardly a replacement for Rists etc.. and all the others that have gone.

Employment is one of top priorities.

Ms Buckley has said her priorities are her leaders (David Cameron's), not Hyndburns. For me it is the other way around.

garinda 21-03-2010 07:35

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 799031)
Will disagree with you on a couple of points , if people were living in such misery and explotation in the "bad old days" how do you explain the rise of the seaside resorts like Blackpool, Morcambe etc. in Lancashire and other similar resorts along the Yorksire coast , these weren't built just for the "Bosses" they were designed and built around the same time the building boom of terraced streets in the Mill towns for the skilled working masses.

Re. the "poverty" of the housing stock at the time , I'm thinking most of the Mill workers who were drawn to work in the cotton towns appreciated the chance to live in a terraced house with an outside lavatory (most probably a tippler type) much better than the one room mud hovels most of the migrating mill workers who came from in Scotland and Ireland ,and looking back took a damn sight more pride in them than they do today,
I'm thinking if you look back through various threads which mention the older Big Houses(Villas/Mansions) where the big bad nasty bosses lived you can see that in Accrington many were in areas adjacent and abutting terraced streets , which seems a bit more democratic to what we see today .

My own opinion is the "rot" started in the days after WW2 , British industry carried on using the same old crap machinery and methods as had been in use from the turn of the century , example ...Germany had to re-build its entire steel industry , what hadn't been bombed was shipped east as reparations to the Russians , so what did the enlightened British politicians do ... they sold the Germans brand new steel plants ,built in antiquated British plants , then wondered why the German industry was more efficient than the British, same thing happened with other industries, post-war politicians cut the throats of the British workers to "create" the social society we see the results of today. ;)

...and I'll counter disagree right back, even though I'm still half a sleep.

;)

Re: the seaside resorts.
Besides mentioning the date Bolton won the first F.A. Cup at Wembley, I was refering to a time pre-workers rights, and before holiday entitlements were given, which directly gave rise to the resorts on the coast.

Housing. The phrase used was 'relative poverty', meaning our housing needs are much higher today, than then. With many of us still living in the housing stock that was built for those workers, but we now benefit from bathrooms, central heating/running hot water, and don't have to break the ice on t'tippler, when we need to spend a winter penny.

If you think life today isn't better than it was for our great-great grandparents, you're living in Cloud Cuckoo Land.

'They were poor....but they were happy.'

Utter balderdash.

You can't be truly happy, when at the back of your mind there's the fact that if you've no work, for whatever reason, your children will starve.

This is not the case in the U.K. today.

We also talked in the car about Bullough's making the machines for places like India, who were then in direct competition to Lancashire's cotton mills, which is similar to you comment about Germany. If England hadn't supplied those countries, someone else would. There would still have been overseas competition, who could under-cut Britain because of a cheaper workforce.

Now I really must go and see if there's any coal left in t'coal 'ole, so I can light a fire, after I've been down the yard t'smallest house, then I can have a cuppa for my breakfast.

:D

garinda 21-03-2010 08:01

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 799009)
So because you don't know them personally says they are not right for the job? As far as I can see under our last couple of MP's Hyndburn has hardly flourished or do you disagree? All or nearly all our major employers have left the area and there doesn't seem to be any great efforts to attract new business to the area. Maybe, just maybe we need an outsiders input into how to attract new employers. After all the present lot don't seem to be to bothered!!!!


'The changes Thatcher set in motion between coming to power and 1985 were profound, altering much of the economic and cultural landscape of Britain. She wished to slash the power of the trade unions, cut back the role of the state in business, reduce the role of manufacturing industry in the British economy, and create a more entrepreneurial culture. She also aimed to cut back the welfare state, as she thought the British people had become overreliant on the state, but she did not achieve much in this direction. Exacerbated by the global recession of the early 1980s, her policies initially caused large-scale unemployment, especially in the industrial heartlands of northern England, and increased wealth inequalities.'
Online Encyclopedia and Dictionary - Margaret Thatcher

This area benefited when we were an industrialised, manufacturing nation, because of the weather, and cotton is easier to work when it's damp.

The new service industries that are supposed to have replaced them, can be located anywhere in the U.K. Which is probably why Lord Tebbit said people had to 'get on their bikes', to go and find a job where the work was.

Unlike the past, there is no special physical advantage to siting new businesses in this area, rather than anywhere else. Other than we have a concentrated work force, relatively affording housing, and pretty countryside on our doorstep, and some companies have been founded, or relocated here, to provide people with work, because of those reasons.

Wynonie Harris 21-03-2010 09:31

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 799000)
For goodness sake give her a break, sorry but reading the comments on this thread would put the bravest person off IMHO.

Don't you see though, Bernie, we're actually trying to help her in our own humble way? As Garinda says, all publicity is good publicity, and we're trying to give her a public face. Let's be honest, as she appears to be getting very little support from the local Tories, she needs all the help she can get! :)

jaysay 21-03-2010 09:45

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 799072)
Don't you see though, Bernie, we're actually trying to help her in our own humble way? As Garinda says, all publicity is good publicity, and we're trying to give her a public face. Let's be honest, as she appears to be getting very little support from the local Tories, she needs all the help she can get! :)

Form Cheshire :D

andrewb 21-03-2010 09:45

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 799046)
Where she comes from may be a problem. Her current policy she says is to slash funding (including Hyndburn) to get the deficit down. Hyndburn receives a huge amount of Government funding and a lot of jobs will be affected, let alone reductions in schools, hospitals, housing, the Council etc.. I understand these issues and prefer Gordon Brown's managed reduction whilst fighting for the place I live.


The alternative 'managed' reduction is what? Spending hundreds of billions of pounds of taxpayers money paying high interest rates to bankers because government has spent beyond its means. The interest payments alone dwarf the entire schools budget. It's predicted to be double that of defence spending, while we're at war. It's a disgrace. We need to get the deficit down quickly so we can start paying back our vast amounts of debt.

jaysay 21-03-2010 09:47

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 799079)
The alternative 'managed' reduction is what? Spending hundreds of billions of pounds of taxpayers money paying high interest rates to bankers because government has spent beyond its means. The interest payments alone dwarf the entire schools budget. It's a disgrace. We need to get the deficit down quickly so we can start paying back our vast amounts of debt.

Hear Hear, the Labour recipe for everything is first borrow two eggs:rolleyes:

Wynonie Harris 21-03-2010 09:51

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Jaysay, as Bernie says...
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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 799000)
maybe we need somebody who is looking at the whole of the borough with no prejudice for any given area.

Anyway, I'm only taking this job on, because you won't help her. It's a thankless task, but somebody's got to do it. ;)

garinda 21-03-2010 09:57

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 799080)
Hear Hear, the Labour recipe for everything is first borrow two eggs:rolleyes:

'Lord Myners said: “This morning’s ill thought-out Tory briefing has all the hallmarks of a plan made up on the hoof'

“This kind of tax on bankers needs to be international. As the Chancellor has made clear, the UK-only bank tax the Tories want is a sure-fire way of encouraging a banking exit from the UK - raising costs to borrowers, damaging Britain’s competitiveness and costing tens of thousands of jobs across the country.'

“The Tories keep getting the big judgments wrong.'
David Cameron announces bank tax plan - Times Online

Well the City don't seem to have much faith in the Conservative's economic credibility.

jaysay 21-03-2010 10:00

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 799084)
'Lord Myners said: “This morning’s ill thought-out Tory briefing has all the hallmarks of a plan made up on the hoof'

“This kind of tax on bankers needs to be international. As the Chancellor has made clear, the UK-only bank tax the Tories want is a sure-fire way of encouraging a banking exit from the UK - raising costs to borrowers, damaging Britain’s competitiveness and costing tens of thousands of jobs across the country.'

“The Tories keep getting the big judgments wrong.'
David Cameron announces bank tax plan - Times Online

Well the City don't seem to have much faith in the Conservative's economic credibility.

And a damn site less in Labours

garinda 21-03-2010 10:06

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 799081)
Jaysay, as Bernie says...


Anyway, I'm only taking this job on, because you won't help her. It's a thankless task, but somebody's got to do it. ;)

Considering she's now had one of her six weeks to make her presence known to the electorate in the constituency, along with her thoughts, ideas, and plans for our future, she's kept a suprisingly low profile.

The only things we know about her, are the few things posted on her website, besides what's been uncovered by helpful posters in this thread.

As she heads into the last month or so of campaigning, let's hope she'll become more visible, and vocal. So we can then make up our own minds up, and decide whether she's worthy of our votes.

jaysay 21-03-2010 10:06

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You can't keep spending money you haven't got, its a recipe for disaster, if your in a hole stop digging, but as usual Labour never have to clear up their own mess, if Brown actually won the election he would be biting his fingernails if not chewing his finger off altogether, because he firmly believes he'll walk of into the sunset and be forgotten

jaysay 21-03-2010 10:08

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 799086)
Considering she's now had one of her six weeks to make her presence known to the electorate in the constituency, along with her thoughts, ideas, and plans for our future, she's kept a suprisingly low profile.

The only things we know about her, are the few things posted on her website, besides what's been uncovered by helpful posters in this thread.

As she heads into the last month or so of campaigning, let's hope she'll become more visible, and vocal. So we can then make up our own minds up, and decide whether she's worthy of our votes.

Not much good to Wyn though, unless being a Stanley fan gets you a vote:rolleyes:

garinda 21-03-2010 10:26

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 799086)
The only things we know about her, are the few things posted on her website, besides what's been uncovered by helpful posters in this thread.

I for one didn't realise homosexuality could be cured, by means of an exorcism, in Baptist churches in Lytham St. Annes.

You live and learn.

Less 21-03-2010 10:57

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 799092)
I for one didn't realise homosexuality could be cured, by means of an exorcism, in Baptist churches in Lytham St. Annes.

You live and learn.

Ah, well the coastal areas are rife with 'em, (it's something to do with the smell of the ozone, ask any sailor), obviously if they aren't cured there will not be enough descendants to find their roots in the industrial towns of the north and we won't have the chance of decent representation, after all, we have suffered many years of in-breeding to stamp this sort of thing out, so what chance have we got of a local hero that can throw two sentences together?

Just remind your loved ones not to take sweets from strangers.
:rolleyes:

garinda 21-03-2010 12:42

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Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 775651)
I dont believe they will choose an outsider for that reason. Only one person can win this. I believe i know who.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post775651

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Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 721901)
I also feel he wont be the one chosen., I have have a feeling who will be though, lets wait and see.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post721901



Did you place a bet on Karen Buckley being the successful Conservative candidate?

You must be laughing all the way to the bank, as you probably got very good odds.

:rolleyes:

Wynonie Harris 21-03-2010 15:59

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 799088)
Not much good to Wyn though, unless being a Stanley fan gets you a vote:rolleyes:

Ah yes, I keep forgetting, you don't like outsiders getting involved, do you?

"Yuh not from round these parts are yuh, boy?"
(Cue: banjos)

Incidentally, I'm as much "from Cheshire" as your mate, Councillor Britcliffe is "from Ossy". ;)

garinda 21-03-2010 17:05

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For those of us worried about this thread not being reverential enough, I thought we'd pack away the Spitting Image puppets back into the toy cupboard, for a suitable period of time. Which would give some people time to ponder their less than deferential tone, and I'd then pretty the thread up with a lovely floral display, just in case Ms. Buckley happens to pop by.

http://img4.realsimple.com/images/09...boquet_300.jpg

(I've even given the whole thread a good spray with Fabreeze, so it's smelling sweetly floral, and without a whiff of ironic satire left.)

;)

Less 21-03-2010 17:27

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 799181)
For those of us worried about this thread not being reverential enough, I thought we'd pack away the Spitting Image puppets back into the toy cupboard, for a suitable period of time. Which would give some people time to ponder their less than deferential tone, and I'd then pretty the thread up with a lovely floral display, just in case Ms. Buckley happens to pop by.

http://img4.realsimple.com/images/09...boquet_300.jpg

(I've even given the whole thread a good spray with Fabreeze, so it's smelling sweetly floral, and without a whiff of ironic satire left.)

;)

If I had a carpet I'd do the shake and vac'

Not much point though really, if she appeared on my doorstep and I invited her in she probably wouldn't know how to drink tea out of a mug.

garinda 21-03-2010 17:55

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 799193)
If I had a carpet I'd do the shake and vac'

Not much point though really, if she appeared on my doorstep and I invited her in she probably wouldn't know how to drink tea out of a mug.

Have a little Faith.

Just because you can't actually see, or physically hear someone, doesn't mean that they're not here.

He works in mysterious ways. His disciples might similarly follow His way.

'...the ever-vain Cllr Britcliffe Googles his own name on a regular basis.'
Peter Britcliffe | Political Scrapbook

garinda 22-03-2010 00:22

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 799031)
Will disagree with you on a couple of points , if people were living in such misery and explotation in the "bad old days" how do you explain the rise of the seaside resorts like Blackpool, Morcambe etc. in Lancashire and other similar resorts along the Yorksire coast , these weren't built just for the "Bosses" they were designed and built around the same time the building boom of terraced streets in the Mill towns for the skilled working masses.

Re. the "poverty" of the housing stock at the time , I'm thinking most of the Mill workers who were drawn to work in the cotton towns appreciated the chance to live in a terraced house with an outside lavatory (most probably a tippler type) much better than the one room mud hovels most of the migrating mill workers who came from in Scotland and Ireland ,and looking back took a damn sight more pride in them than they do today,
I'm thinking if you look back through various threads which mention the older Big Houses(Villas/Mansions) where the big bad nasty bosses lived you can see that in Accrington many were in areas adjacent and abutting terraced streets , which seems a bit more democratic to what we see today .

My own opinion is the "rot" started in the days after WW2 , British industry carried on using the same old crap machinery and methods as had been in use from the turn of the century , example ...Germany had to re-build its entire steel industry , what hadn't been bombed was shipped east as reparations to the Russians , so what did the enlightened British politicians do ... they sold the Germans brand new steel plants ,built in antiquated British plants , then wondered why the German industry was more efficient than the British, same thing happened with other industries, post-war politicians cut the throats of the British workers to "create" the social society we see the results of today. ;)

Anyway Pops, the very real poverty than meant a vitamin deficient diet, and the resulting Rickets, may have been a blessing for you, and your siblings.

However, sadly, in the 'good old days' it wasn't possible for everyone to go onto the Music Hall stage, and make a good living, whilst performing as the Cutie Pie Clog Dancin' Cripples.

;)

:D

steeljack 22-03-2010 00:27

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 799052)
...

Re: the seaside resorts.
Besides mentioning the date Bolton won the first F.A. Cup at Wembley, I was refering to a time pre-workers rights, and before holiday entitlements were given, which directly gave rise to the resorts on the coast.



:D

ignoring the sarcasm about "t'cole ole" and the year Bolton won the first FA Cup , the point I was trying to make was .... I find it a bit odd that Blackpool Tower opened to the public in May 1894 , obviously a leisure market had been seen a few years earlier to set up such a project. Yet at the same time the folks who un-shackled the great un-washed from years of exploitation ( think thats one of the Labour Party's claims to the nations history) didn't put any candidates up for election till the following year " In the 1895 general election, the Independent Labour Party put up 28 candidates but won only 44,325 votes. Keir Hardie, the leader of the party, believed that to obtain success in parliamentary elections, it would be necessary to join with other left-wing groups." (Wikipedia) . So obiviously things/life before the "creation" of the Labour party wasn't as bad as the "freedom fighting spouting socialists" say ,especially for the workers the Lancashire Mill towns .

;) :D

garinda 22-03-2010 07:47

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 799333)
ignoring the sarcasm about "t'cole ole" and the year Bolton won the first FA Cup , the point I was trying to make was .... I find it a bit odd that Blackpool Tower opened to the public in May 1894 , obviously a leisure market had been seen a few years earlier to set up such a project. Yet at the same time the folks who un-shackled the great un-washed from years of exploitation ( think thats one of the Labour Party's claims to the nations history) didn't put any candidates up for election till the following year " In the 1895 general election, the Independent Labour Party put up 28 candidates but won only 44,325 votes. Keir Hardie, the leader of the party, believed that to obtain success in parliamentary elections, it would be necessary to join with other left-wing groups." (Wikipedia) . So obiviously things/life before the "creation" of the Labour party wasn't as bad as the "freedom fighting spouting socialists" say ,especially for the workers the Lancashire Mill towns .

;) :D


Oh I see what you're trying to do now, make a political point! Doh.

;)

If you wanted a political history, rather than a personal one, you just had to say, then we needn't go down the wrong cobbled street.

;)

The rise of the traditional Victorian seaside resorts. This boom started in the 1870's. One of the reasons was the passing of the 1871 Bank Holiday Act, which gave workers a few days paid holidays off each year. This was introduced by Liberal politican, Sir John Lubbock.

The pre-industrial revolution Wakes Week festival was incorportated into the working year by the mill owners, as a time when machines could be cleaned and overhauled. Mill workers had a week, or two weeks unpaid holiday. Each town had differing weeks off, giving rise to a summer 'season' for the Lancashire resorts. By the 1870's there was of course a reliable, regular, and relatively affordable railway service. Though the hotels that were newly opened mainly served the white collar workers.

Conclusion.
If someone needs everything to be viewed through party political eyes, workers lives were affected, and in some case bettered, before the foundation of the Labour party.

Now don't break that poor donkey's back, when you get on him.

You're a big lad now.

;)

garinda 22-03-2010 07:55

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On a personal note, I know as fact none of my sixteen great grandparents, all textile workers from this area, took their Wakes holidays in the new resort's hotels. Though some did have occasional days out to the coast, organised by the church Sunday schools.

garinda 22-03-2010 08:22

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 799341)
On a personal note, I know as fact none of my sixteen great grandparents, all textile workers from this area, took their Wakes holidays in the new resort's hotels. Though some did have occasional days out to the coast, organised by the church Sunday schools.

Should read 'great, great grandparents'.

I was trying to work out when the majority of that generation of my family would be of working age.

Wynonie Harris 22-03-2010 14:14

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So...has anybody up there spotted Kaz out and about yet? It's like waiting to hear the first cuckoo of Spring, isn't it? :D

cashman 22-03-2010 14:19

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 799417)
So...has anybody up there spotted Kaz out and about yet? It's like waiting to hear the first cuckoo of Spring, isn't it? :D

Shes probably waiting fer the clocks to alter.:D

Less 22-03-2010 14:33

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 799417)
So...has anybody up there spotted Kaz out and about yet? It's like waiting to hear the first cuckoo of Spring, isn't it? :D

Ah well, it's back to tradition, she's working along the lines of good old 'Lobby lud', in reverse.

If you see her walking the street's of Hyndburn all you have to do is approach her, (with a current Conservative Manifesto), to claim your right to vote anyway you choose, (unless of course you happen to be a member of the party).


Anonymous employees of the newspaper would visit seaside resorts. The newspaper would print details of the town, a description of the appearance of that day's planted "Lobby Lud", and a particular pass phrase. Anyone carrying a copy of the newspaper could challenge "Lobby Lud" with the appropriate phrase, and receive the sum of five pounds. This was then a handsome amount of money, equivalent to more than £220 in 2008 pounds[1].

Taken from:-

Lobby Lud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Reamer 22-03-2010 14:45

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 799417)
So...has anybody up there spotted Kaz out and about yet? It's like waiting to hear the first cuckoo of Spring, isn't it? :D


No, but a few nights ago had a visit from GJ - 'on the knock'. Have not met him before - seems a down to earth chap. Topics discussed , in no particular order, banks, BA strike, MP's expenses, local Tories, taxes, Cameron/Osborne, public sector..... but no sign of the opposition yet :)

at least not in my area

ossylass 22-03-2010 15:21

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A wannabe M.P. from Lytham
said "I've tried to get along with'em,
I've been to their Mills
And tramped up their hills
But we don't seem to have the same rhythm" :D

jaysay 22-03-2010 15:26

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Originally Posted by ossylass (Post 799439)
A wannabe M.P. from Lytham
said "I've tried to get along with'em,
I've been to their Mills
And tramped up their hills
But we don't seem to have the same rhythm" :D

But she's not catholic:rolleyes:

Less 22-03-2010 15:31

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 799441)
But she's not catholic:rolleyes:

Oh, perlease Mr. Vatican Pope can we have a decision on this one?

Is Rhythm exclusive to you red necks or can we all have a go?

Please don't try to ex-communicate me, I'm on Virgin broadband, that must be you're favourite network!
:D

g jones 22-03-2010 19:55

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Originally Posted by Reamer (Post 799426)
No, but a few nights ago had a visit from GJ - 'on the knock'. Have not met him before - seems a down to earth chap. Topics discussed , in no particular order, banks, BA strike, MP's expenses, local Tories, taxes, Cameron/Osborne, public sector..... but no sign of the opposition yet :)

at least not in my area

Thanks for the chance to speak. Down to earth in the sense that Stephen Byers will get it explained to him as 'gracefully as working people do' why he shouldn't be an MP.

Out every night and weekends. My family are missing me and I missing them.

jaysay 23-03-2010 06:27

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 799443)
Oh, perlease Mr. Vatican Pope can we have a decision on this one?

Is Rhythm exclusive to you red necks or can we all have a go?

Please don't try to ex-communicate me, I'm on Virgin broadband, that must be you're favourite network!
:D

Don't knock it Less but for that I wouldn't be here mate:D

jaysay 23-03-2010 06:34

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:tongueouthe Mole is dead, hung on a fence in Ossy:tongueout:ello::uzi::thefinger

garinda 23-03-2010 07:19

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 799522)
:tongueouthe Mole is dead, hung on a fence in Ossy:tongueout:ello::uzi::thefinger

Thank you.

So you'll now publicly admit that there was one, and what he told me...and us, was correct, regarding the plan for someone who wasn't selected as a candidate, to stand independently.

Dead and hung out's a bit much though, don't you think?

Poor Moley.

With Conservative friends like that, I'd hate to see what you'd do to your enemies.

jaysay 23-03-2010 07:20

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 799529)
Thank you.

So you'll now publicly admit that there was one, and what he told me...and us, was correct, regarding the plan for someone who wasn't selected as a candidate, to stand independently.

Dead and hung out's a bit much though, don't you think?

Poor Moley.

With Conservative friends like that, I'd hate to see what you'd do to your enemies.

Not a Conservative as you well know

garinda 23-03-2010 07:21

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Happily I've still got my helpful little friend, the tweet-tweet.


;)

garinda 23-03-2010 07:24

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 799530)
Not a Conservative as you well know

Oh dear.

Then I think there might have been the biggest miscarriage of justice since the execution of Derek Bentley.

:eek:

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

jaysay 23-03-2010 14:42

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 799532)
Oh dear.

Then I think there might have been the biggest miscarriage of justice since the execution of Derek Bentley.

:eek:

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

I know not

garinda 23-03-2010 16:18

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 799610)
I know not

Odd, you seemed to know quite a lot earlier in the day.

:rolleyes:

I hope you've not been threatened by the execution squad, for speaking out of turn.

:eek:

Careless talk costs votes.

:D

garinda 23-03-2010 16:31

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 799417)
So...has anybody up there spotted Kaz out and about yet? It's like waiting to hear the first cuckoo of Spring, isn't it? :D

They seek her here,
They seek her there,
They seek the elusive Ms. Buckley everywhere.

In the interest of fairness, and so there can be no further accusations that we're not being helpful in this thread, a little bird has told me that Karen Buckley is rumoured to be at Towngate, Great Harwood, this coming Friday lunchtime/early afternoon.

I require no payment, or indeed thanks, for offering this help with her public relations campaign. Since it appears she's not getting 'much' assistance from the local Conservative Association in Hyndburn, I'm more than happy to do it.

Take the opportunity to get to know your Conservative candidate a little better.

Friday.

Karen Buckley.

Great Harwood.

Available for probing.

Less 23-03-2010 18:49

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 799639)

Take the opportunity to get to know your Conservative candidate a little better.

Friday.

Karen Buckley.

Great Harwood.

Available for probing.

No Pomp, no Circumstance, just one quick nip over to Gt. Harwood so that she can say she's visited her Potential constituency, though Harrod isn't all there is of Hyndburn.

It will be a little bit like saying I went to Blackpool when you actually mean a different part of the Fylde coast such as Fleetwood.

Would she know that Fleetwood is part of the Fylde Coast? Or do all the decedents of fishwives and Trawler-men make that too working class for her to visit?

Yes, perhaps her first visit to Hyndburn should be to one of the safer areas, she only needs to visit Accrington on May the 7th if she gets in. But perhaps by then she will be too busy representing us to actually spend time getting to know us?

garinda 23-03-2010 19:56

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 799671)
No Pomp, no Circumstance, just one quick nip over to Gt. Harwood so that she can say she's visited her Potential constituency, though Harrod isn't all there is of Hyndburn.

Perhaps when they said Arrod, she thought we had a branch of Harrods?

It's an easy mistake, for someone not au fait with the area.

By the way, it's not simply a question of 'a quick nip over' to Snuffy.

As well as the Towngate probing, a Muslim friend of mine from Great Harwood, has been informed at the mosque that she's interested in a meeting with them, facilitated by a former Hyndburn M.P.

So it's nice to hear that she's at least being aided in her campaign by one local Conservative member.

Peace be with you.

garinda 24-03-2010 11:12

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On what seems to be a positive endorsement, on a local (on the Fylde coast) political website, she's known by the regal soubriquet of 'Princess Karen'.

counterbalance - Princess Karen MP

That should be seen as a positive attribute, to those in Hyndburn who prefer to be represented by one of their 'betters'.

Queen of people's hearts.

:worthy::notworthy:worthy::notworthy:worthy: :Banane41:

:rolleyes:

garinda 24-03-2010 11:17

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'She also has the self control and 'poker face' needed for politics.'

counterbalance - Princess Karen MP

Perhaps the first person to spot her in Hyndburn, could offer further comment.

Eric 24-03-2010 17:21

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Wow .... she may show up in Hyndburn:eek: That would be a big %^#*&^@ deal:rolleyes::D

garinda 24-03-2010 23:53

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In my role as unofficial P.R. campaigner, can I please make note that the candidate has been to the Viaduct in Accrington, and there's a photograph to prove it.

Karen Buckley for Hyndburn | MyConservatives.com

At the bottom of the page is a thermometer, which will rise until it reaches the £500 target, that has kindly been donated to Ms. Buckley's political fund.

Please give generously. It can't be easy.

Less 25-03-2010 00:18

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I think she's lucky to have raised what she has so far,

Do we really want a person that begs off strangers to represent us?



* Target: £500
* Raised: £0

Ken Moss 25-03-2010 06:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 799092)
I for one didn't realise homosexuality could be cured, by means of an exorcism, in Baptist churches in Lytham St. Annes.

You live and learn.

You certainly get value for money at the baptist ceremony in Ansdell, a good two hours come rain or blistering 29 degrees shine....those of you still thanking Jesus at the end deserve medals.

I'm just going to reiterate one of my earlier points that for all the Buckley-bashing that's going on she stands a very, very good chance of winning this one. I'm loath to admit it and I've said the same to Graham (who is down-to-Earth enough to agree with me) but there are a vast number of uninformed voters who simply want to vote Conservative and aren't bothered about who the candidate is.

We have the advantage on this forum of knowing what is going on in Hyndburn but it seems that a worrying majority simply haven't a clue. Token appearances in places like Great Harwood are not going to be the deciding factor, the party representation in the media is what sways people unless they actually get chance to talk to their candidate.

Graham Jones was canvassing with me again last night, knocking door-to-door and talking to the electorate. He is doing the same again in Rishton on Saturday and the general consensus is favourable that they have spoken to the man they are being asked to vote for.

Graham's canvassing campaign is superior by far but I personally believe elections across the board will be a very close call this time, primarily due to the media image of both main parties.

garinda 25-03-2010 06:52

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 800002)
...the party representation in the media is what sways people unless they actually get chance to talk to their candidate.


Other than what's been helpfully published on here, there's been little/no press coverage of the Conservative candidate, other than the story of the imposed candidate list, and the ensuing resignations of some bigwigs in the local party.

That's why I'm expecting a thank you, if, and when, she eventually posts, rather than just reads Accy Web.

andrewb 25-03-2010 07:33

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 800004)
Other than what's been helpfully published on here, there's been little/no press coverage of the Conservative candidate, other than the story of the imposed candidate list, and the ensuing resignations of some bigwigs in the local party.

That's why I'm expecting a thank you, if, and when, she eventually posts, rather than just reads Accy Web.

I wouldn't bank on it since you've been so incredibly rude to her. Yes she might be a politician, but that's no excuse. Do find something better to do.

Tealeaf 25-03-2010 07:38

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 800011)
I wouldn't bank on it since you've been so incredibly rude to her. Yes she might be a politician, but that's no excuse. Do find something better to do.

You lay off Garinda. You know you'll only upset him.

Wynonie Harris 25-03-2010 07:51

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 800011)
I wouldn't bank on it since you've been so incredibly rude to her. Yes she might be a politician, but that's no excuse. Do find something better to do.

...or then again, she might just be a normal adult who takes the sort of banter she's received on here in her stride as part and parcel of the political rough and tumble. :rolleyes:

andrewb 25-03-2010 07:54

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 800018)
...or then again, she might just be a normal adult who takes the sort of banter she's received on here in her stride as part and parcel of the political rough and tumble. :rolleyes:

I'm sure she will. Personally I just think Garinda is being unnecessarily rude.


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