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jaysay 08-05-2010 10:23

Oh Hum its a funny old world
 
Security firms paid £23m to guard police stations | Mail Online
This is when the old statement "you couldn't make it up" comes into play,
doesn't say much for law and order if they can't even look after their own establishment:rolleyes:

SPUGGIE J 08-05-2010 12:51

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Hang on what law n order? They are too busy chasing motorists to do owt serious.

mallard 08-05-2010 13:05

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Thats right what spuggie says i a gree they are to bizzy with the motorist

Taggy 08-05-2010 14:12

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Barking Mad !!

Best Regards - Taggy

DaveinGermany 08-05-2010 14:55

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That's because your average Plod hasn't had the proper 'Elf 'n' Safedy, training, and far be it for them to disregard the rules eh ! :rolleyes:

That'd be taking liberties so it would, which would then bring them into bother with the civil liberties people because that'd be impinging on someone's Human rights by making them stand outside in the wet & cold.

Poor Constable Singhs' Turban would get wet & due to his religious beliefs he can't take it off so they'd have to bring him in so the poor fella wouldn't get soaked, thereby breaching a risk assessment ruling that a wet turbans weight may add undue pressure onto the wearers neck, thereby opening the force up for a compensation claim.

But Constable Singhs' replacement Constable Mustafa goes & stands outside so Joe Public would know their local force was operating in observance with diversity & equality rulings by having an Asian officer in the public eye. And would then jump to the conclusion that the Police were being racist by making a coloured gentleman stand outside in the cold & wet !

They then proceed inside to have a word with the desk Sergeant who's a hefty bearded bloke with breast implants & wearing a Skirt (part of the trans-gender equality ruling) to complain about the perceived racial prejudice of making a coloured officer stand outside only to be asked if they'd phoned beforehand to get a crime number, prior to coming to the station directly !

Ludicrous ? far fetched ? or really to close to the knuckle ? Welcome to modern day Britain in all it's Multi-Culti, myriad diversity & splendour, rules & regulations absurdity :)

DaveinGermany 10-05-2010 06:48

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Doesn't anyone else have an opinion on this ? Come on people its your money they're using ! :o

cashman 10-05-2010 08:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 813707)
Doesn't anyone else have an opinion on this ? Come on people its your money they're using ! :o

the whole concept of it , is too pathetic to have n opinion dave, ludicrous.:rolleyes:

jaysay 10-05-2010 09:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 813715)
the whole concept of it , is too pathetic to have n opinion dave, ludicrous.:rolleyes:

It's typical GB 2010 cashy, we've all gone to hell on a hand cart

cashman 10-05-2010 09:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 813717)
It's typical GB 2010 cashy, we've all gone to hell on a hand cart

Things like this, plus loads of other stupiditys are the main reason i don't give a stuff any more.:(

jaysay 10-05-2010 10:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 813725)
Things like this, plus loads of other stupiditys are the main reason i don't give a stuff any more.:(

Think we're both rowing the same boat now cashy:rolleyes:

DaveinGermany 15-05-2010 08:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 813725)
Things like this, plus loads of other stupiditys are the main reason i don't give a stuff any more.:(

I take it you mean this sort of stupidity !

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: JP is scolded for calling cathedral vandals 'scum'

or even this ?

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Villagers set up camp to foil gypsy invaders

Maybe the Police could use this to help out the pensioners to fight off the Gypo hoard who are trying to build an illegal site.

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Police go on patrol in campervan

As the title says "Oh hum, it's a funny old World" only problem being I ain't laughing !! disbelieving & incomprehending would be closer to the mark !

cashman 15-05-2010 09:01

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Yep things like that dave,plus many more like criminals having more rights than victims, criminals being let out of nick to make room fer others, the list is endless, far too much to be righted in my lifetime, so why should i waste mine bothering?:rolleyes:

Less 15-05-2010 09:07

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Can you imagine, a Policeman a little strapped for cash books a personal day so that he can go moonlighting at a security firm & his first job is to guard his own station, I wonder if his sergeant would have a few words?

Thinking about it, the sergeant would have a few words and they would be something like this,
"Have you got the 'phone number of that company? I could do with some extra cash myself."

jaysay 15-05-2010 09:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 814942)
I take it you mean this sort of stupidity !

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: JP is scolded for calling cathedral vandals 'scum'

or even this ?

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Villagers set up camp to foil gypsy invaders

Maybe the Police could use this to help out the pensioners to fight off the Gypo hoard who are trying to build an illegal site.

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Police go on patrol in campervan

As the title says "Oh hum, it's a funny old World" only problem being I ain't laughing !! disbelieving & incomprehending would be closer to the mark !

Maybe we could have a special thread in anything goes, to publish stories like the above, it wouldn't be long before it was one of the best subscribed to threads on Accy Web:rolleyes:

DaveinGermany 15-05-2010 10:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 814957)
Maybe we could have a special thread in anything goes, to publish stories like the above, it wouldn't be long before it was one of the best subscribed to threads on Accy Web:rolleyes:

How very sadly true ! :(

acertun 18-05-2010 17:11

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It's taken about forty years to get things this bad . When is some one going to start turning the boat around and get back to something like normal like it was in the fifties.

jaysay 19-05-2010 09:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by acertun (Post 815815)
It's taken about forty years to get things this bad . When is some one going to start turning the boat around and get back to something like normal like it was in the fifties.

This started the minute the dogooding brigade thought it was a good idea to stop corporal punishment in schools. We had nothing like this in the fifties and sixties as you say acertun, but the minute that kids were given the right to run amok in class with nothing and teacher could do about it, was the beginning of the end and I'm afraid it will never be turned back

Neil 19-05-2010 09:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 815969)
I'm afraid it will never be turned back

I think it is people having that attitude that will prevent things turning around.

jaysay 19-05-2010 10:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 815978)
I think it is people having that attitude that will prevent things turning around.

Well can you ever see us going back to disciplining kids in schools, or letting the police do their jobs, or even letting parents give theirs kids a clip round the ear without ending up in court, maybe if the Guardian went bust we could stand a chance:rolleyes:

acertun 19-05-2010 13:03

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A lot of the kids seem to have no respect or fear of the law . I know that some will say its cruel and unusual punishment but things seemed a lot better when we had the cat and the death penalty. There was also conscription. That brought a lot of people back into line.

jaysay 19-05-2010 14:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by acertun (Post 816014)
A lot of the kids seem to have no respect or fear of the law . I know that some will say its cruel and unusual punishment but things seemed a lot better when we had the cat and the death penalty. There was also conscription. That brought a lot of people back into line.

Or stopped them going out of line in the first place

cashman 19-05-2010 16:18

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Now,Now, remember the old saying= Brats will be Brats.:D

Mancie 19-05-2010 16:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by acertun (Post 816014)
A lot of the kids seem to have no respect or fear of the law . I know that some will say its cruel and unusual punishment but things seemed a lot better when we had the cat and the death penalty. There was also conscription. That brought a lot of people back into line.

:D... maybe I'm out of line here, but this has jumped from teachers being able to punish schoolboys to the death penalty.... seems a bit over the top for kids who "get out of hand" :).. conscription may have brought people back into line but didn't do much for with the Kray twins...:D

acertun 19-05-2010 19:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 816041)
:D... maybe I'm out of line here, but this has jumped from teachers being able to punish schoolboys to the death penalty.... seems a bit over the top for kids who "get out of hand" :).. conscription may have brought people back into line but didn't do much for with the Kray twins...:D

It did very well for the millions of other conscripts though.

DaveinGermany 01-10-2010 07:08

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With the new "Equality act" coming into force today, is it really going to be a help or more of a hindrance ?

Equality Act: firms must not ask job applicants about health - Telegraph

jaysay 01-10-2010 09:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 848813)
With the new "Equality act" coming into force today, is it really going to be a help or more of a hindrance ?

Equality Act: firms must not ask job applicants about health - Telegraph

Oh Hum as the title of this thread says:rolleyes:

Less 01-10-2010 10:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 848835)
Oh Hum as the title of this thread says:rolleyes:

Looks like you'll be back to work soon then Jay?
:D

jaysay 01-10-2010 10:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 848853)
Looks like you'll be back to work soon then Jay?
:D

Is that an offer to push the wheelchair Less:D

yerself 01-10-2010 10:22

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Looks like there could be light at the end of the tunnel of stupidty. Let's hope more of these feral youths, scumbags, call them what you may, appear before Judge Gareth Hawkesworth.

Resident who fired catapult at gang of troublemakers wins court battle - Telegraph

jaysay 01-10-2010 10:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yerself (Post 848856)
Looks like there could be light at the end of the tunnel of stupidty. Let's hope more of these feral youths, scumbags, call them what you may, appear before Judge Gareth Hawkesworth.

Resident who fired catapult at gang of troublemakers wins court battle - Telegraph

Bloody Hell a Judge with common sense:mosher:

Less 01-10-2010 10:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 848854)
Is that an offer to push the wheelchair Less:D

No chance, a typical Tory like you would keep the brakes on just to make this piece of factory fodder work harder.
:D

jaysay 01-10-2010 17:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 848866)
No chance, a typical Tory like you would keep the brakes on just to make this piece of factory fodder work harder.
:D

For you Less I'd even drag my feet too:D

Barrie Yates 01-10-2010 19:06

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In the snooker hall under the King's Hall everything would suddenly go quiet as the door slammed open - standing at the top of the steps would be Det Sgt Sargeson.
He would point out the ones he thought or knew who were under age and they had to leave - past him.
One hell of a clout behind the ear, no complaints about that, same if you got caught underage in a pub - instant justice and no crying to Mum and Dad.
Where did it all go wrong?

Mancie 02-10-2010 01:39

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How about this for a start..Crime likely to rise as ConDem government slash police budgets by £125million - mirror.co.uk... now this is just one warning from Police chief.. and there are many more...it's all very well to slag of the last Governments attemps to fight crime .. fighting crime costs money..but this present Government have the idea that less spent on our Police means less crime.. very strange.. but here we go!

MargaretR 02-10-2010 07:43

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Look on the bright side - fewer police means less chance of being tazered during the revolution.;)

SPUGGIE J 02-10-2010 08:36

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 849025)
Look on the bright side - fewer police means less chance of being tazered during the revolution.;)


Some might get a kick out of tazerings. Mind you it wont be the revolutionaries. :eek:

jaysay 02-10-2010 08:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 849025)
Look on the bright side - fewer police means less chance of being tazered during the revolution.;)

You could taser Mancie and he still wouldn't talk any sense:D

DaveinGermany 31-10-2010 16:01

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I know it's Halloween & all that, but come on :-

Police given advice on witches and pagans - Telegraph

But the best thing about it was this comment posted by one of the readers :-

http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/u...jpg?1276530529 Old Goat
Today 10:04 AM


Recommended by
36 people



To the police.

I know for certain, that the following are witches. Please arrange for their arrest, summary ducking, and in the worst cases, a barbecue:

Cherie Blair, Harriet Harman, Caroline Lucas, Jacqie Smith, and others of that ilk.

They are accused that on divers dates, they did do witchy things, and are generally hags and tarts.

Made my Day, haven't had such a chuckle in ages :s_aim1: Eeh ! fair near widdled meself !

jaysay 31-10-2010 17:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 857180)
I know it's Halloween & all that, but come on :-

Police given advice on witches and pagans - Telegraph

But the best thing about it was this comment posted by one of the readers :-

http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/u...jpg?1276530529 Old Goat
Today 10:04 AM


Recommended by
36 people



To the police.

I know for certain, that the following are witches. Please arrange for their arrest, summary ducking, and in the worst cases, a barbecue:

Cherie Blair, Harriet Harman, Caroline Lucas, Jacqie Smith, and others of that ilk.

They are accused that on divers dates, they did do witchy things, and are generally hags and tarts.

Made my Day, haven't had such a chuckle in ages :s_aim1: Eeh ! fair near widdled meself !

Sounds like thee and me have a similar sense of humour Dave:mosher::D:D:D

Barrie Yates 31-10-2010 20:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 857180)
I know it's Halloween & all that, but come on :-

Police given advice on witches and pagans - Telegraph

But the best thing about it was this comment posted by one of the readers :-

http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/u...jpg?1276530529 Old Goat
Today 10:04 AM


Recommended by
36 people



To the police.

I know for certain, that the following are witches. Please arrange for their arrest, summary ducking, and in the worst cases, a barbecue:

Cherie Blair, Harriet Harman, Caroline Lucas, Jacqie Smith, and others of that ilk.

They are accused that on divers dates, they did do witchy things, and are generally hags and tarts.

Made my Day, haven't had such a chuckle in ages :s_aim1: Eeh ! fair near widdled meself !

Brilliant Dave, read the article, thought it was a 1st of April joke but didn't read the letters page or blog.
Wonder how much this cost and if the Senior Police Officer that Mancie quoted could justify this - or even comment on it?

DaveinGermany 31-10-2010 20:45

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 857339)
Brilliant Dave, read the article, thought it was a 1st of April joke

Me too, but it was in today's paper so has happened recently, absolute belter isn't it ?

Mancie 01-11-2010 23:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 857339)
Brilliant Dave, read the article, thought it was a 1st of April joke but didn't read the letters page or blog.
Wonder how much this cost and if the Senior Police Officer that Mancie quoted could justify this - or even comment on it?

The demolition government cuts in fighting crime, or even bringing those convicted of crime to boot makes things look pretty grim...this is no April fools joke..it is typical tory policey.. lie,get power, then destroy..18,000 fewer police.

SPENDING REVIEW 2010: More criminals spared prison and 18k fewer police | Mail Online

DaveinGermany 02-11-2010 03:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 857679)
The demolition government cuts in fighting crime, or even bringing those convicted of crime to boot makes things look pretty grim...this is no April fools joke..it is typical tory policey.. lie,get power, then destroy..18,000 fewer police.

SPENDING REVIEW 2010: More criminals spared prison and 18k fewer police | Mail Online

The "Mail" Mancie, the nerve of these people, just as well the "Mail" can be relied on to report such injustices eh? Like this for example ;)

Labour's early prisoner release scheme is scrapped | Mail Online

jaysay 02-11-2010 09:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 857697)
The "Mail" Mancie, the nerve of these people, just as well the "Mail" can be relied on to report such injustices eh? Like this for example ;)

Labour's early prisoner release scheme is scrapped | Mail Online

Take no notice of Mancie Dave, he always mocks me for quoting the Mail, but doesn't hesitate to use it himself if he agrees with one of their "made up story's"

Mancie 02-11-2010 23:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 857697)
The "Mail" Mancie, the nerve of these people, just as well the "Mail" can be relied on to report such injustices eh? Like this for example ;)

Labour's early prisoner release scheme is scrapped | Mail Online

It's been reported in most papers Dave.. I chose to post the mail because if I'd posted the guardian, I would have had that tory bloke on here saying it was all left wing rubbish! ;) :D

DaveinGermany 03-11-2010 04:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 858180)
It's been reported in most papers Dave.. I chose to post the mail because if I'd posted the guardian, I would have had that tory bloke on here saying it was all left wing rubbish! ;) :D

But it's the propaganda oracle of the enemy classes ! If you carry on reading that folk will start to think .... DAH..DAH..DA ! :eek: You're a closet TORY !:s_aim1:

jaysay 03-11-2010 09:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 858180)
It's been reported in most papers Dave.. I chose to post the mail because if I'd posted the guardian, I would have had that tory bloke on here saying it was all left wing rubbish! ;) :D

You know that Tory bloke too well Mancie:D

jaysay 03-11-2010 09:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 858202)
But it's the propaganda oracle of the enemy classes ! If you carry on reading that folk will start to think .... DAH..DAH..DA ! :eek: You're a closet TORY !:s_aim1:

Well Dave me can be a closet Dave but never a Tory:D

DaveinGermany 03-11-2010 19:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 858268)
Well Dave me can be a closet Dave but never a Tory:D

Eh ? Pass ! Next question please. :confused:

Mancie 04-11-2010 00:17

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Just one of Jaysay's "out here" posts

DaveinGermany 21-04-2012 11:22

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An old thread I know, but after reading this particular little gem today. Do I really need to say anything here ?

London 2012 Olympics: torch relay police officers 'to get counselling' - Telegraph

mobertol 21-04-2012 12:11

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That just about takes the biscuit - am going home myself tomorrow after 3 weeks away. Will suggest counselling for the family as they get used to my being back, my presence might upset any new equilibrium!:D

jaysay 21-04-2012 13:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 986734)
An old thread I know, but after reading this particular little gem today. Do I really need to say anything here ?

London 2012 Olympics: torch relay police officers 'to get counselling' - Telegraph

No think the headline says it all DIG;)

AccyChris 22-04-2012 17:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 813207)
Security firms paid £23m to guard police stations | Mail Online
This is when the old statement "you couldn't make it up" comes into play,
doesn't say much for law and order if they can't even look after their own establishment:rolleyes:

thought some1 like yourself would welcome more men in costumes or is that grinda? :thefinger

jaysay 22-04-2012 18:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyChris (Post 986997)
thought some1 like yourself would welcome more men in costumes or is that grinda? :thefinger

Crawl back under your stone

AccyChris 23-04-2012 08:52

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As the title says it's a funny old world ;)

DaveinGermany 18-05-2012 04:00

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Regularly it's with new amazement that I find out my idea of the pressing problems that face the Country are challenged. Happily I now know it's not the crises with the Euro or Euro zone, gawd no, not even the lack of jobs & unemployment, a mere inconvenience, the economy & recession, housing, even immigration is just a piffling diversion, how foolish I've been, no the real problem is kids, well babies to be more precise, so that's it then, Dave & chums have come up with the answer ? UK's problems will soon be solved ? :rolleyes:

No 10 guide to changing nappies and baby talk - Telegraph

Margaret Pilkington 18-05-2012 07:50

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A monumental waste of money. This smacks of 'Blair' type window dressing.
It will not be accessed by the people who truly NEED skills in parenting...(well not unless the vouchers can be sold on to buy something that these feckless parents see as more interesting)....and where is the money coming from...what services are being dispensed with, in order to pay for this smoke and mirrors ploy.

PS........I do hope Mancie is reading this. It might dispel the myth that I support this government.

There is so much in the country that needs urgent attention, but the government just tinker around the edges with stuff that has little relevance to the real problems.

jaysay 18-05-2012 08:19

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Well in our day its was the kind of skills you learned from your parents, not some government gimmick, I do wonder sometimes just what goes on in the minds of politicians. Even animals know how to bring up their young its called instinct, and humans are supposed to be far more superior, the mind really does boggle

maxthecollie 18-05-2012 09:02

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Does Mr Cameron have parenting skills or are "ones" children looked after by "ones" nanny?

DaveinGermany 08-07-2012 10:44

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Well there you go, a good old fashioned weeping, wailing, gnashing of teeth, fire & brimstone, pits of hell, pulpit thumping, bible bashing rant from the Rt Rev. Graham Dow, Bishop of Carlisle ............. so now you know why we're up a certain creek, minus paddle. ;)
Floods are judgment on society, say bishops - Telegraph

jaysay 08-07-2012 10:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1001700)
Well there you go, a good old fashioned weeping, wailing, gnashing of teeth, fire & brimstone, pits of hell, pulpit thumping, bible bashing rant from the Rt Rev. Graham Dow, Bishop of Carlisle ............. so now you know why we're up a certain creek, minus paddle. ;)
Floods are judgment on society, say bishops - Telegraph

Is this guy a descendant of Noah:confused::D

Margaret Pilkington 08-07-2012 10:48

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When I went for my walk along the canal the other day I heard lots of sawing and banging.......I wondered if it was Noah....then chap shouted...'Tha'll need a lot moor wood than that tha knows'....so maybe it WAS Noah!

jaysay 08-07-2012 10:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1001702)
When I went for my walk along the canal the other day I heard lots of sawing and banging.......I wondered if it was Noah....then chap shouted...'Tha'll need a lot moor wood than that tha knows'....so maybe it WAS Noah!

Were there any cones about Margaret:eek::eek::eek:

Margaret Pilkington 08-07-2012 10:54

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No John...not that I noticed.

DaveinGermany 20-07-2012 04:41

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It just gets better don't it ? :rolleyes:

Ministers to pay private companies to wake up and drive teenagers to work - Telegraph

So much for learning to be self sufficient, standing on your own 2 feet & making something of yourself.

jaysay 20-07-2012 08:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1003689)
It just gets better don't it ? :rolleyes:

Ministers to pay private companies to wake up and drive teenagers to work - Telegraph

So much for learning to be self sufficient, standing on your own 2 feet & making something of yourself.

Now I know why I don't watch the news anymore, stops me pulling what little hair I still have out of my head, whats wrong with the flaming bus

susie123 20-07-2012 10:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1003689)
It just gets better don't it ? :rolleyes:

Ministers to pay private companies to wake up and drive teenagers to work - Telegraph

So much for learning to be self sufficient, standing on your own 2 feet & making something of yourself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1003714)
Now I know why I don't watch the news anymore, stops me pulling what little hair I still have out of my head, whats wrong with the flaming bus

But they'd have to sleepwalk to the bus if no one came to wake them up first!

Did anyone see the programme last week on BBC1 with Nick Hewer and Margaret Mountford, about pensioners going back to work in Preston? They contrasted them with some youngsters who were taken on for the same work. The attitudes of the teenagers made me wonder where we are headed if that is the future - I think three of the six took the second day off their new job with a so-called "tummy bug" or personal problems they wouldn't discuss and none of them phoned in to tell their employer. OK so the pensioners may have lost their fitness to do some of the work and weren't enjoying it any more but I bet they would have struggled in or at least let someone know.

jaysay 20-07-2012 10:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1003738)
But they'd have to sleepwalk to the bus if no one gave to wake them up first!

Did anyone see the programme last week on BBC1 with Nick Hewer and Margaret Mountford, about pensioners going back to work in Preston? They contrasted them with some youngsters who were taken on for the same work. The attitudes of the teenagers made me wonder where we are headed if that is the future - I think three of the six took the second day off their new job with a so-called "tummy bug" or personal problems they wouldn't discuss and none of them phoned in to tell their employer. OK so the pensioners may have lost their fitness to do some of the work and weren't enjoying it any more but I bet they would have struggled in or at least let someone know.

Well I had to get up and catch the bus to work susie when I first left school, mind you the Nanny State hadn't landed on our shores then:mad:

Guinness 20-07-2012 12:59

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In this headline the word 'drive' is used in the context meaning to impel or urge NOT in the context of getting in a car. Vehicles are not mentioned. And the headline is relevant to one scheme in a multitude of schemes to help kids get into employment. It's basically paying someone to be a 'knocker-up'. (Used to be a valid job once, why not again?)

Personally I dont see the general idea as a bad thing, the only issue I have with it is putting these kids back into education. These kids are already labelled as 'academical failures' because they have not gone on to further education. Why on earth set them up to fail again.

I'm so tired of people of a certain age attacking the kids of today. When most of us were that age you could quit a job at dinner time, knock on a few doors and find another by tea time. Companies like BT, British Gas, Norweb etc..were taking apprentices by the hundred. Bulloughs and GEC had 2000+ workers each. There were umpteen sewing factories, Rists, Textile Mouldings. The list is endless

Things are not like that now, the kids who get out and look for work are constantly knocked back, they get disheartened and give up.

I think that Cleggs idea is worth running with, it's much better thought out than YTS and the open to abuse apprenticeship scheme

And don't even get me started on those biased, surgically edited, one sided, headline grabbing, stereotype reinforcing BBC fly on the wall documentaries.

cashman 20-07-2012 13:23

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Well i think its ludicrous, When knocker ups were about, i doubt very much if many (if Any) people had or could afford alarm clocks, It aint a case of knocking the kids, Its a simple case of em learning to stand on own 2 feet, n becoming independent, not rocket science to me.:rolleyes:

susie123 20-07-2012 13:32

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Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 1003754)
In this headline the word 'drive' is used in the context meaning to impel or urge NOT in the context of getting in a car. Vehicles are not mentioned.

Maybe so, but I reckon the word was deliberately used in the headline to make folks think that cars were involved, not the other meaning.

jaysay 20-07-2012 16:48

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1003756)
Well i think its ludicrous, When knocker ups were about, i doubt very much if many (if Any) people had or could afford alarm clocks, It aint a case of knocking the kids, Its a simple case of em learning to stand on own 2 feet, n becoming independent, not rocket science to me.:rolleyes:

Nail on head cashy

Guinness 20-07-2012 17:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1003756)
Well i think its ludicrous, When knocker ups were about, i doubt very much if many (if Any) people had or could afford alarm clocks, It aint a case of knocking the kids, Its a simple case of em learning to stand on own 2 feet, n becoming independent, not rocket science to me.:rolleyes:

The target group of kids here are 16-17 year olds with no academic qualifications whatsoever.

Chances are they have been abandoned by the education system from an early age when they showed no aptitude for academia, thrown into the bottom stream, allowed to leave school at the earliest opportunity.

These were the kids that used to end up working with their hands, some of whom made fortunes doing it, problem is we aint got those kinda jobs available anymore. Manufacturing is all but non-existant and small businesses like mechanics, builders, electricians etc.. won't give them a chance because of the extra health and safety risk assessments and hoops they have to jump through when kids work.

Something needs to be done to save these kids from becoming the next generation of Jeremy Kyle viewers/participants.

I'm no liberal do gooder, but I can see where Clegg is coming from here. £2,200 a head spent now is far better than paying a lifetime of benefits.

Oh and this is the source of the non-story about 'driving kids to school'

Radical Scheme To Rescue NEETS Kicks Off Today

'PPDG will also provide a one stop shop for integrated youth services with varying levels of support to help young people. This will include, for example, family conferencing, wake-up calls to help young people develop a routine, bite-sized English and maths courses and weekend/evening activities.'

jaysay 20-07-2012 17:49

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Gremlin I hear what your saying, but we've heard it all before, the problem we have now started back in the sixties and seventies and with some families its an ingrained way of life, mummy and daddy don't work why should I, the trouble is they get through because its easier to cash a giro once a fortnight (mind you they don't do that now its paid straight into their bank accounts) and when they're better off sat at home rather than working what are they going to do

DaveinGermany 21-07-2012 10:46

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Why not ? Let's open another can shall we ?

Problem families 'have too many children’ - Telegraph

jaysay 21-07-2012 13:09

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1003894)
Why not ? Let's open another can shall we ?

Problem families 'have too many children’ - Telegraph

Well the thing is you see time and again stories where there are 10 11 12 children in a family and the mother always seems to say I JUST LOVE KIDS, um I suppose its fine when your not paying for um:rolleyes:

Less 21-07-2012 16:21

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1003922)
Well the thing is you see time and again stories where there are 10 11 12 children in a family and the mother always seems to say I JUST LOVE KIDS, um I suppose its fine when your not paying for um:rolleyes:

Let's not get religious here but...

If most Catholics didn't take the pill, we could be over run and blessing the pope!

:hidewall:

Thank goodness that common sense overtakes most religious and maternal dictates.
:)

jaysay 22-07-2012 10:41

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1003949)
Let's not get religious here but...

If most Catholics didn't take the pill, we could be over run and blessing the pope!

:hidewall:

Thank goodness that common sense overtakes most religious and maternal dictates.
:)

Well My Mother was a catholic and she decided that they could only afford one bread snatcher, mind you I was a big baby, if more people cut their cloth according to their width instead of expecting the state to rear their over crowded homes maybe things would be better

susie123 22-07-2012 12:08

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1004064)
mind you I was a big baby

Was??? Aren't you still, John?? :p:dummy2::dummy:

cmonstanley 22-07-2012 12:25

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lololol:D:D

jaysay 22-07-2012 17:43

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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1004074)
Was??? Aren't you still, John?? :p:dummy2::dummy:

To be honest the way things are going I'll soon be in that boat, but there again you'll know all about that:rolleyes:

DaveinGermany 12-08-2012 09:37

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1004145)
I'll soon be in that boat,

But not with Skeggies "Jolly fisherman" if the loonies have their way. ;)


Jolly Fisherman loses his welcome in 'health and safety' redesign - Telegraph

jaysay 12-08-2012 10:38

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1008547)
But not with Skeggies "Jolly fisherman" if the loonies have their way. ;)


Jolly Fisherman loses his welcome in 'health and safety' redesign - Telegraph

The mind really does boggle Dave, where is this crap all going to end. They actually go to university to become and elf and safety officer, seems more like they've graduated from a lunatic asylum

DaveinGermany 28-08-2012 05:06

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A story to raise a smile (from Aussie land), based on a Brit prototype. :)

Wheel Clamp Man with his hard hat and angle grinder on the streets of Perth - Telegraph

jaysay 28-08-2012 08:54

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1011057)
A story to raise a smile (from Aussie land), based on a Brit prototype. :)

Wheel Clamp Man with his hard hat and angle grinder on the streets of Perth - Telegraph

Give the man a carrot:D

DaveinGermany 24-10-2012 08:39

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All this hoo-ha about how burglars should be handled by home owners in to-days touchy feely times .......... what utter piffle, here's your answer from days gone by. ;)

Defending your home was an issue in 1909 - Telegraph

DaveinGermany 31-12-2012 11:35

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A little snippet for your perusal, Welsh Wales eh, always knew there was something iffy about 'em ! :D

Witchcraft 'thriving in the Welsh countryside' - Telegraph

Less 31-12-2012 15:50

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1034959)
A little snippet for your perusal, Welsh Wales eh, always knew there was something iffy about 'em ! :D

Witchcraft 'thriving in the Welsh countryside' - Telegraph


Whatever do you expect?

The mines have been closed, pit choirs disbanded, the only thing left for them is rugby and rural practices.

Eric 31-12-2012 16:00

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1034986)
Whatever do you expect?

The mines have been closed, pit choirs disbanded, the only thing left for them is rugby and rural practices.

Those wouldn't be the "rural practices" that involve sheep, would they?;)

Less 31-12-2012 16:14

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1034988)
Those wouldn't be the "rural practices" that involve sheep, would they?;)

I couldn't say, but if you don't want one as ugly and smelly as a full back I suggest you get there early.

Eric 11-01-2013 10:54

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I like this one:

MPs call for, in private at least, a 32% pay rise | Politics | The Guardian

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

susie123 11-01-2013 12:54

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No deffo 32% according to the BBC
BBC News - MPs call for '32% salary increase'

Less 11-01-2013 13:13

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Obviously our local mp isn't involved in this particular money grabbing, self serving, pocket lining disgrace.












He'd have asked for 95%.

yerself 11-01-2013 14:37

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From the Beeb: BBC News - MPs call for '32% salary increase'

On average, Tories said their salary should be £96,740, while Lib Dems thought the right amount was £78,361 and Labour £77,322. Other parties put the figure at £75,091.

I wonder what the public think their MPs are worth, or do 95% just not care?

Neil 11-01-2013 14:49

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I have said before that they are not paid enough.

There is something wrong when several Councils chief execs are paid more than the PM

This story is almost 3 years old and talks about senior council officer pay in this area http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...ng__pay_rises/

You know the old saying, pay peanuts get monkeys

Well if you don't pay MP's enough to attract the right people we need to sort the country out you can't complain when we can only select monkeys on election day.

susie123 11-01-2013 15:09

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1036578)
I have said before that they are not paid enough.

There is something wrong when several Councils chief execs are paid more than the PM

This story is almost 3 years old and talks about senior council officer pay in this area Hyndburn and Pendle council chiefs' 'staggering' pay rises (From Lancashire Telegraph)

You know the old saying, pay peanuts get monkeys

Well if you don't pay MP's enough to attract the right people we need to sort the country out you can't complain when we can only select monkeys on election day.

Coudn't agree more Neil, well said.

Eric 11-01-2013 15:11

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Just did a check. Seems like Canadian MPs earn quite a bit ... 99,486.18 UK pounds. This amount is frozen, for now, by Act of Parliament. That's damn good pay. However, our local MP, Ted Hsu, seems as if he is good value for the money. I didn't vote for him, and I won't be voting for him in the next election. But I have talked to him a couple of times, and he was very helpful, even tho' he knows I'm a supporter of the NDP.

davebtelford 11-01-2013 15:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1036578)
I have said before that they are not paid enough.

There is something wrong when several Councils chief execs are paid more than the PM

This story is almost 3 years old and talks about senior council officer pay in this area Hyndburn and Pendle council chiefs' 'staggering' pay rises (From Lancashire Telegraph)

You know the old saying, pay peanuts get monkeys

Well if you don't pay MP's enough to attract the right people we need to sort the country out you can't complain when we can only select monkeys on election day.

The trouble is when we pay top whack & STILL get monkeys !!! It's the execs in the Councils / NHS / BBC etc. who get paid too much not the MPs who get paid too little. (And remember many MPs would still find the time to have 2nd jobs however much you paid them for being an MP.) My 2p.

Guinness 11-01-2013 16:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1036578)
I have said before that they are not paid enough.

There is something wrong when several Councils chief execs are paid more than the PM

This story is almost 3 years old and talks about senior council officer pay in this area Hyndburn and Pendle council chiefs' 'staggering' pay rises (From Lancashire Telegraph)

You know the old saying, pay peanuts get monkeys

Well if you don't pay MP's enough to attract the right people we need to sort the country out you can't complain when we can only select monkeys on election day.

Stupid arguments!
Councils are overpaying their chief execs...so we should overpay MP's to bring them into line
We pay bankers a fortune to deal with the finances of this country, in fact we reward them for screwing up....where's your pay peanuts get monkeys on that one then?
Give me an argument for paying Gordon Brown £96k when he hasn't even set foot in the commons for 8 months..or an argument for MP's who are absent from most of the votes to receive £96k..or one for MP's who vote against the wishes of their constituents because they think they knnow better
No matter how much these backstabbing, two faced MP's are paid, it will never be enough to stop them from screwing every single £1 they can from the taxpayers, whether its on fiddling expenses, fact finding trips to barabados or gilt edged pensions


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