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jaysay 12-05-2010 10:29

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 814174)
So much debt... did Labour lower your living standards?.. did they slaughter the NHS?..did they not guarantee a basic rate of pay for low earners.. did they not pay for the services you need?.. a bad Government maybe but I can't think of any good Goverment we have had.
I give you something Jaysay you are a die hard and believe in the Tories, lets hope they don't bite you in return ;)

Some time I wonder which planet you actually live on Mancie, it certainly ain't planet earth

Mancie 12-05-2010 11:53

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 814185)
Some time I wonder which planet you actually live on Mancie, it certainly ain't planet earth

Maybe I would rather live on another planet than under your mob..but I'm so rich I was gonna ****** off and live in Monaco.. but then the Tories got in and my accountant told me I can sit on my arse all day doing sod all and make lots of money without paying tax.. tax is for wimps.

jaysay 12-05-2010 14:29

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 814251)
Maybe I would rather live on another planet than under your mob..but I'm so rich I was gonna ****** off and live in Monaco.. but then the Tories got in and my accountant told me I can sit on my arse all day doing sod all and make lots of money without paying tax.. tax is for wimps.

Well you should know:rolleyes:

Eric 12-05-2010 20:26

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 814183)
A true supporter with principle wouldn't, I didn't:rolleyes:

A principled tory:eek: That's right in there with jumbo shrimp, Micorsoft Works, and military intelligence;):D

derekgas 12-05-2010 21:02

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It doesnt matter much who is in power, they have to find the money to reduce the national debt, without being picky, the national debt was derived not from the last few years, but from the selling off of nationalised industries, the council houses and the like, the sale put money in the coffers at the time, but reduced future income whilst propping up a false economy (from the sell off), many people on low income were duped into the belief that buying the council house they lived in would somehow make them better people, only to find that it didnt, and they couldnt afford the mortgages let alone the ill advised improvement loans, so they had negative equity, or were repossessed, who bought those houses on the cheap?? The wealthy! What really needs to happen, is for a party to explain what this mess will cost us, honestly, how long it will take, and where the cuts/tax hikes are being introduced to pay it off.

accyman 12-05-2010 21:23

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what happened with a lot of council properties is that they got sold and rented out so instead of paying £40 a week for a 3 bedroom house back then they had to pay £90-£110 a week for tennats in houses that they should never have sold in the first place.You cant blame peopel for taking advantage of teh scheme but it really got my backup that somone who had their rent paid for 15 years could get a huge discount on a 3 bedroom house with front and rear gardens and all they had to do was get a job to get a special rate morgage and sell the house 5 years down the line for a huge proffit.Even then some people after making the money on the house they sold re-applied and got another council house with a huge sum of cash in the bank hidden in a partners or relatives bank acount.

jaysay 13-05-2010 09:26

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 
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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 814373)
A principled tory:eek: That's right in there with jumbo shrimp, Micorsoft Works, and military intelligence;):D

Well on a matter of principle I said I would resign from the party and wouldn't vote for any candidate from a list forced on HCA, both of which I did, I'm no longer a party member nor did I vote Tory last Thursday either :)

Neil 13-05-2010 10:59

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 814085)
think the moderators should check your ISP and check if it's a direct link to North Korea . ;)

I just checked and surprisingly it came back with this address

30 Millbank
London
SW1P 4DP

Neil 13-05-2010 11:04

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 814470)
I'm no longer a party member nor did I vote Tory last Thursday either :)

Not even in the local election?

MargaretR 13-05-2010 11:32

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 814501)
I just checked and surprisingly it came back with this address

30 Millbank
London
SW1P 4DP

That is a civil service building :eek:
....maybe he is 007:D

jaysay 13-05-2010 14:45

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 814503)
Not even in the local election?

I voted for Simon in the locals, in fact I spent an hour with him prior to the election, my beef was with party officials at the NWAO not our local set up

Ken Moss 15-05-2010 09:09

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 
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Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 814383)
It doesnt matter much who is in power, they have to find the money to reduce the national debt, without being picky, the national debt was derived not from the last few years, but from the selling off of nationalised industries, the council houses and the like, the sale put money in the coffers at the time, but reduced future income whilst propping up a false economy (from the sell off), many people on low income were duped into the belief that buying the council house they lived in would somehow make them better people, only to find that it didnt, and they couldnt afford the mortgages let alone the ill advised improvement loans, so they had negative equity, or were repossessed, who bought those houses on the cheap?? The wealthy! What really needs to happen, is for a party to explain what this mess will cost us, honestly, how long it will take, and where the cuts/tax hikes are being introduced to pay it off.

Someone else who understands that social housing was a good idea. Locally, we're now left with a raft of Manchester-based companies who couldn't give a toss about Hyndburn.

The new administration in Great Britain seem to think that harsh cuts in front line services and good old fashioned harsh taxation will fix the country in a few short years whereas it is more likely to slide us back into the pit.

Much as I want the new government to work, I suspect that those of us north of the wash will be moving to Far Corfe fairly soon.

cashman 15-05-2010 09:20

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 814955)
Someone else who understands that social housing was a good idea. Locally, we're now left with a raft of Manchester-based companies who couldn't give a toss about Hyndburn.

Dont get me going on that Ken, the EVIL bitch who may even get a state funeral never intended to try to understand that,:( still hopefully that can't be far off.

Less 15-05-2010 09:22

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 814958)
Dont get me going on that Ken, the EVIL bitch who may even get a state funeral never intended to try to understand that,:( still hopefully that can't be far off.

I'm getting a touch impatient as well cashy, surely we don't have to wait for her to die to bury her do we?
:D

jaysay 15-05-2010 09:25

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 814955)
Someone else who understands that social housing was a good idea. Locally, we're now left with a raft of Manchester-based companies who couldn't give a toss about Hyndburn.

The new administration in Great Britain seem to think that harsh cuts in front line services and good old fashioned harsh taxation will fix the country in a few short years whereas it is more likely to slide us back into the pit.

Much as I want the new government to work, I suspect that those of us north of the wash will be moving to Far Corfe fairly soon.

You seem to forget just how much debt this country is in Ken, when you borrow money at the same rat of knots as this last government did, without any sort of idea how to pay it back, or were not bothered because they were quite aware that once again it wouldn't be them who has to clear the mess up, when you borrow money whether it be national Government or the ordinary man in the street, there comes a time when you have to admit that you need to address your finances, unfortunately Labour never have and always let others clean up their mess, and it is a mess:mad:


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