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The comment of the afternoon whilst i was yon, was P.B. saying to the new mayor- When i make a promise,i keep it, as you know better than most,:rolleyes: don't we just? the arrogant sod has neither the sense nor wit, to know when ya should keep stumm.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:
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well i think this should be stickied until the next election so as to remind everyone how crooked this lot are and to show why voting indipendant isnt a good idea in hyndburn
whats teh point in standing for election if you are going to abstain from important decisions for teh district.If you do not vote you are not representing your people and tehrefore shoud stand down and give way to somone who will vote on important matters in my opinion this is nothing more than an absolute disgusting display of backhand polotics and corruptness |
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Any of you lot read 'Private Eye'? I've not read it for a year or so, but there used to be an excellent section in there entitled 'Rotten Boroughs', all about the corruptness in various local authorities. I guess after the events of today, Hyndburn will now fit that description. I wonder if we'll read about it all shortly.
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Three hours of my life have now dissolved into the ether, never to return, and the ultimate ignominy is that I had to sit through vote after engineered vote as castrated as a chief eunuch.
The Independent group have 75% lived up to their name but in fairness to 75% of them they could see which way the vote had been skewed and just sat back from proceedings by abstaining. For those who didn't see Paul Barton dragged from his hospital bed, it was a lamentable display of desperate politics which Cllr Britcliffe rather neatly pushed onto the Labour group. I understand it was Cllr Dobson who went to collect him but last time I checked he wasn't on our membership list.... Despite Cllr Britcliffe being on record as not particularly liking the noise from the room above during council meetings, it was a particular irony that the ballroom strains of 'Chanson D'Amour' drifted through the room as Malcolm Pritchard took his mayoral office The major news of the day of course was not the re-election of a leader who jury-rigged the whole thing, not even John Broadley being backed into a corner over mayorality, but Peter Britcliffe's mysterious black eye. As I said in the house, it is an honour to have been elected to serve the people of Rishton but I would urge everyone in the real world to just remember that nothing actually gets done in that exalted chamber at Town Hall, save a six-weekly pantomime where one man tells us how many golden eggs his whipped flock of geese is laying. |
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No, hence the mystery.
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but Peter Britcliffe's mysterious black eye. Thank you for that Ken......it is the best news I have heard all day. I would add some expletives to that, but I am far too much of a lady....and anyway Cashy just about summed it up, so I don't need to sully my lips with his name or what I really think of the man. A black eye is too good for him really.....it should have been two! |
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yeh margaret he really disgusted me, but am a great believer in what goes around comes around, sorry can't claim responsibilty fer his black eye, but will happily buy a pint fer whomever caused it.:)
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ahhh i see your point both a pair of wats |
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That, Tealeaf, would be the icing on the cake:D |
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As for the Garden Rake.......well, that's a new name for it!(wink, wink)
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I think one black eye is better than two - otherwise we would mistake him for a cuddly panda - which we know he isn't
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The whole point of going independent is to remove yourself from party politics and just get on with the job, which in fairness to them they have done. Abstaining today was merely a way of extricating themselves from an inevitable situation that the whole chamber was forced into by the Conservatives. If Paul Barton had not been dragooned into line by the Tories then it may well have been a different story. |
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Unfortunately, being Independent is a way of showing your interest in local politics but trying to remove yourself from local politics at the same time. It also removes the crutch of a party machine when you need help and certainly leaves you at a disadvantage in the council chamber when it comes to voting for facilities in your ward as you become reliant on votes from other parties. |
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You bang on about principles and the moral high ground but chide councillors when they exert those very qualities. |
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As described, 'mere minions r us' were subjected to pure pantomime as first the woefully sick Mayor was ushered in via he TD plated Range Rover. Holding the walls and the furniture to balance his way to the front, our 'deathly' Mayor was unable to breath at times, mutter incoherently.
Malcolm was cosseted, nay wrapped in soft cotton wool and moved as far from the interference of opposition councillors as possible sitting amidst the ilk of his support. Months stretching on years of protestations by certain Conservatives melted into the ether of a political blackhole as conscience was sidelined for the pleasure-dome of power and voluminous golden allowances. Principled Tories abandoning their pre-stated principle's and falling into line. The first votes cast resulted in 18-17. Abstensions followed from independents on further votes leaving most decisions 17-14 reflecting the votes cast by the two major party's. All was clearly lost in the full attended meeting. The indicator of that loss being the early alphabetical vote Mayor Paul (B)arton, the last remaining doubter who voted nay to John Broadley and aye to Malcolm Pritchard. The vote for Mayor being 18-17. Councillors David (M)ason; David (P)arkins and Ian (R)obinson where able to choose to abstain on further votes as the predictability of defeat established itself. The dramatic event was the Deputy Mayorality with Mayor Paul Barton declining to step into that role. In a cheap appeasement, Cllr Britcliffe without forewarning, moved John Broadley and resisted an adjournment to force the outcome. An adjournment was acquired. John honourably refusing the political bribe in the interim. Instead Munsif Dad (Labour) was advanced only to met with the political jeopardy of Cllr Britcliffe seeking to grasp the asian vote back, withdrawing the offer to Labour by counter nominating Allah Dad. With Mayor Pritchard moored in the first citizens seat and refusing to vote initially, the chamber accumulated a final and dramatic deadlock of 17-17. Mayor Pritchard was then forced to use his privy casting and golden vote. The chamber witnessed the longest silence in my memory as indecision gripped the Mayor. Time passed but the heavy hand and staring glare of Cllr Britcliffe finally brought the axe down on Labour's nomination with the Mayor's decision completing his political transaction nominating Conservative Allah Dad. |
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which way did pritchard vote or was his vote not required to swing a victory leaving his mayorship safe and sound without it ?
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Still, pity where it's due, the previous Labour administration and all that guff. There's only enough money in the pot for six new Oswaldtwistle projects this year instead of the usual ten. The rest of us, as predicted, are being relocated to Far Corfe. |
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I should have read the post more carefully. I was having a dig at our democracy in general. If Independents are genuinely independent I admire them. I may be naive but I don't see a need for party politics in local government.Nationally I dont think Parliament would function without them. As for banging on about principles and the moral high ground I am far behind the politicians. |
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i may be alone thinking that but when i vote for somone i vote for them to work for the area not sit back and watch everyone else |
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Twas shortly after the 17-17 n our new mayor staring his payback, i departed feeling utterly sick, i may be n ignorant obnoxious get, but i have never sold me soul.:(
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It comes with the territory, although I accept what you are saying. |
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I suspect there won't be any freshly-taken smiling pictures of the Leader in the Observer this week. |
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When the Leader makes a promise he sticks to it, Cllr Pritchard knew that better than anyone so there can't have been any dirty politics going on, can there? |
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It was also pointed out today by Cllr Britcliffe that the AGM was moved specifically so that all members of the controlling group could be in attendance, since they had the largest number of councillors and it was his way of maintaining a stable council.
Technically, they still don't have overall control and will be heavily reliant on Cllr Malcolm Pritchard in the future to secure majority votes but keep that to yourselves.... |
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Todays fiasco was the final act in the long running saga of Malcolm being elected as Mayor of Hyndburn.
I voted for my fellow ward councillor (and good friend) John Broadley to be Mayor. John is the epitomy of everything that a hard working councillor should be and would have made an excellent Mayor. John and his wife Jean would have been a credit to the Borough of Hyndburn, as our first citizens, and to the town of Church. But now we have a Mayor who has besmirched the office by his behavior in attaining it. This is a man who has been prepared to do anything to get a chain round his neck. I hope he is proud of having a sizable number of his fellow councillors vote against him becoming Mayor. I just hope that he isn't expecting too many councillors to attend his official 'Mayor Making' on Saturday 26 June, because I suspect he will rather disappointed. Maybe he would like to post his views on this forum of what it feels like to sell your soul for 'thirty pieces of silver' or in this case a golden bauble. |
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Malcolm Pritchard: Vote Labour, get Conservative.
I'm reluctant to be too scathing about Malcolm as he was the first non-Labour councillor to offer me a friendly word but I suspect the residents of Milnshaw will be pretty hacked off when news filters through of his voting tactics today. |
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His last post was the rather cryptic invitation to pm him, as to his reasoning. Seemingly because he didn't have the strength to say what he believes publicly. Quote:
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It'll probably be the best remembered occasion since the one when the viaduct was hung in protest banners, outraged at who was being made mayor that eventful day. Perhaps Cllr. Pritchard won't even wear the historic chains of office after all. At this very minute there could be a jeweller, busily beavering away, fashioning a new chain, out of the thirty pieces of silver. Let's put all that aside, and wish him well. After three. One, two, three. 'For he's a jolly good fellow. For he's a ....' Nevermind then, have it your own way. :rolleyes: |
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lets just hope nothing happens to sway his vote to any particular party then. by the way who got the mayorship and who prommised it to him i cant recall :rolleyes: thankfully accywebb has not only a lot of members but a hell of a lot of visitors viewing it so thankfully people can make up their own conclusions as to if somthing crooked was going on or not .Personaly i would put the pair on a rotation scheme into the stocks in huncoat and let people throw vegitables at them that are as rotten as their polotics. allegedly ( learnt that from ian hislop :D ) |
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What are your views on the newly-elected leader of the Council? |
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I wish you hadn't asked.
Just thinking about it 'damages my soul' |
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i could tell ya, but dont want a ban.
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I don't know anything about Peter Britcliffe, I must do a bit of Googling and get myself up to date. I remember my dad muttering his name a few times but why I don't know
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you know somthing i recall reading somewhere on here that the tory councilors were forbidden to come on to accyweb by their leader and in all fairness i thought what a load of nonsence but lets face it we have labour councilors on here and even a labour local mp on here answering questions and even facing up to criticism but where are the tory councilors infact thinking about it even one of the indipendants is no longer visiting us openly so i assume he is now following the same orders or for a better way of putting it dancing to a new tune
what kind of fear would it take to impliment to keep the whole tory eliment of our council away ? surely it cant be true that the leader of HBC would forbid his minions not to comment on a website visited by many many of its people. |
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Tell ya what Accyman i sure as hell wouldn't put money on it.
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im merely choosing my words carefully as i had a £5 win today on a scratch card and dont want to loose it in a libel case against me :D |
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the real pity in all this mess is M.P. has undone much of the good work hes done, fer n EGO trip. IMHO.:(
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I think the pressure comes Ken, because Peter knows, even though they managed to win the vote at the AGM, he realises that the days of the Tories running this Council are coming to an end. He knows he can no longer rely on the cheap votes they get from an unpopular Government to keep them in control. |
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Though I don't think she's quiet got to grips with AW, as I sent her a nice pm, saying who I was, and congratulating her on her victory, and she didn't know how to send a reply of thanks. So there are two Tory councillors who are Accy Web members...that we know of, and perhaps one or two that just pop in here to have a little read. :rolleyes: |
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Is the mayor reading this thread?
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He's online at this very minute, and reading this thread. Perhaps he might post a few words of thanks, for all the good wishes he's received. |
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Yes thank you so love malcolmp
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Whoever it is I hope your year is as thrilling as your journey to becoming the mayor has been. |
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If you are the new mayor shouldn't you be leading by example?
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this has to be a windup.. hyndburn cannot possibly be your new Mayor :D
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it cant be him surely ?
no way has he yet finished pulling the daggers out of the backs of his constituants edit: ya know somthing with all that has come to light i hope the papers run a more detailed story exposing this chirade and demands he step down as mayor effective imidiatly as he is nothing more than a public disgrace and an embarrassment to hyndburn . |
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Maybe the Tories don't post on here because they are all spineless as was demonstrated yesterday when Tory members who have openly said that they did not want Malcolm Pritchard as Mayor voted for him
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Still, there's a good old fashioned get out clause for all situations should things get desperate: "It was the previous administration's fault, don't blame us." Peter Britcliffe used it yesterday to justify the thin year we're about to have, despite the fact that his party are now in control both here and in Westminster and a new age of prosperity looms before us. There'll probably be enough in the pot for some nice new projects in Oswaldtwistle though, so we can all breathe a sigh of relief. It's lazy politics for anyone with half an eye on the ball. |
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It was nice while it lasted.... |
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It is very convenient when you can change your mind on a recorded vote, bet none of us would have been allowed too. I have requested a list of the how members cast their recorded votes. |
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Councillor Peter Britcliffe - Home He hasn't looked like that for 20 years. |
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It appears that his Worship, our new mayor, has more than the two personalities that we knew about. There are three! Quote:
Considering the organ grinder he's now performing for, it's more than a little ironic that in this post he rubbishes Cllr. Britcliffe, and gives himself a pat on the back. What was I saying, about knowing the rules of war, before rushing headlong into the melee? Using more than One Account You are only allowed one account per person. AccringtonWeb uses a system to identify when someone is using more than one account and this will end in infractions for the main account and deletion of the others. We may also delete you main account if need be and ban you username completely. http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...mer-29681.html :rolleyes: |
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'I could throttle you for writing that vile letter to the Observer, and losing us valuable support, putting my position in jeopardy.'
http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/778.$plit/C...A03%3A59%3A111 'Still we've scraped through, so put your Victorian bonnet back on Marlene, and let's go and celebrate by cracking open the champagne in the Rose and Crown.' |
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Unless he gets a visit from the Ghosts of the Three Mayors of Hyndburn, Past, Present and Future to show him the errors of his ways. (He should get on quite well with the ghost of Mayor present after all he already knows him extremely well.) :) |
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I doubt anyone else will start one. It's down to himselves. :rolleyes: |
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He has multiple personality disorder.................allegedly :D |
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ooops sorry Less, I didn't think of that. I'll put it down to lack of sleep :unsure8:
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I think Garinda, you have got to the heart of the issue.
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Perhaps we all have a price. His desire to become mayor, at any cost, isn't worth what he's paid, by damaging his reputation, and the hurt it must have caused his family. |
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He has to live with that. I think it was a very poor bargain.......he did all that to wear a chain. |
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Even then, I'd expect a clout from my mum, after she was released, for giving in to bullies, and being soft. :D |
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think this sums things up.:D
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Perhaps when I got to the heart, I shouldn't have driven a stake through it. :rolleyes: |
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I think he'll mean Britcliffe, you voted for him.
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As usual, not only has Jaysay got he wrong end of the sick, it's an entirely different stick. :rolleyes: |
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Wonder if our new Mayor will get a ghost writer for his Mayor making speech? He doesn't come across as terribly literate, though no doubt PB has it all in hand, ready typed, using short words.:rolleyes:
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Though I haven't yet agreed a fee. :D |
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Not sure what you're saying there. I was just saying to Garinda what I thought Jaysay meant. I was perfectly clear on what both of them meant. |
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Though I will be donating my fee to the Home for Morally Bereft Mayors. ;) |
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