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cashman 26-05-2010 16:20

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The comment of the afternoon whilst i was yon, was P.B. saying to the new mayor- When i make a promise,i keep it, as you know better than most,:rolleyes: don't we just? the arrogant sod has neither the sense nor wit, to know when ya should keep stumm.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

accyman 26-05-2010 16:35

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well i think this should be stickied until the next election so as to remind everyone how crooked this lot are and to show why voting indipendant isnt a good idea in hyndburn

whats teh point in standing for election if you are going to abstain from important decisions for teh district.If you do not vote you are not representing your people and tehrefore shoud stand down and give way to somone who will vote on important matters

in my opinion this is nothing more than an absolute disgusting display of backhand polotics and corruptness

Tealeaf 26-05-2010 16:57

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Any of you lot read 'Private Eye'? I've not read it for a year or so, but there used to be an excellent section in there entitled 'Rotten Boroughs', all about the corruptness in various local authorities. I guess after the events of today, Hyndburn will now fit that description. I wonder if we'll read about it all shortly.

Ken Moss 26-05-2010 17:07

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Three hours of my life have now dissolved into the ether, never to return, and the ultimate ignominy is that I had to sit through vote after engineered vote as castrated as a chief eunuch.

The Independent group have 75% lived up to their name but in fairness to 75% of them they could see which way the vote had been skewed and just sat back from proceedings by abstaining.

For those who didn't see Paul Barton dragged from his hospital bed, it was a lamentable display of desperate politics which Cllr Britcliffe rather neatly pushed onto the Labour group. I understand it was Cllr Dobson who went to collect him but last time I checked he wasn't on our membership list....

Despite Cllr Britcliffe being on record as not particularly liking the noise from the room above during council meetings, it was a particular irony that the ballroom strains of 'Chanson D'Amour' drifted through the room as Malcolm Pritchard took his mayoral office

The major news of the day of course was not the re-election of a leader who jury-rigged the whole thing, not even John Broadley being backed into a corner over mayorality, but Peter Britcliffe's mysterious black eye.

As I said in the house, it is an honour to have been elected to serve the people of Rishton but I would urge everyone in the real world to just remember that nothing actually gets done in that exalted chamber at Town Hall, save a six-weekly pantomime where one man tells us how many golden eggs his whipped flock of geese is laying.

Tealeaf 26-05-2010 17:27

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 818099)


The major news of the day of course was not the re-election of a leader who jury-rigged the whole thing, not even John Broadley being backed into a corner over mayorality, but Peter Britcliffe's mysterious black eye.

Can you elucidate on the above statement?

Ken Moss 26-05-2010 17:33

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No, hence the mystery.

Margaret Pilkington 26-05-2010 17:43

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[quote=Ken Moss;818099]
but Peter Britcliffe's mysterious black eye.


Thank you for that Ken......it is the best news I have heard all day.
I would add some expletives to that, but I am far too much of a lady....and anyway Cashy just about summed it up, so I don't need to sully my lips with his name or what I really think of the man.
A black eye is too good for him really.....it should have been two!

Tealeaf 26-05-2010 18:04

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 818105)
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A black eye is too good for him really.....it should have been two!

...followed by a good kick in the b*ll*cks.

cashman 26-05-2010 18:08

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yeh margaret he really disgusted me, but am a great believer in what goes around comes around, sorry can't claim responsibilty fer his black eye, but will happily buy a pint fer whomever caused it.:)

jaysay 26-05-2010 19:10

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 818114)
yeh margaret he really disgusted me, but am a great believer in what goes around comes around, sorry can't claim responsibilty fer his black eye, but will happily buy a pint fer whomever caused it.:)

His garden rake don't drink cashy:D I can take it you don't want me to pass your good wishes on to Peter then:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::D

cashman 26-05-2010 19:23

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 818165)
His garden rake don't drink cashy:D I can take it you don't want me to pass your good wishes on to Peter then:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::D

Tell him i wish him the same as i would "Thatcher":D:D;)

accyman 26-05-2010 19:50

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 818181)
Tell him i wish him the same as i would "Thatcher":D:D;)

i thought you wanted her to die from vaginal bleeding ?

ahhh i see your point

both a pair of wats

Margaret Pilkington 26-05-2010 20:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 818112)
...followed by a good kick in the b*ll*cks.


That, Tealeaf, would be the icing on the cake:D

Margaret Pilkington 26-05-2010 20:06

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As for the Garden Rake.......well, that's a new name for it!(wink, wink)

Less 26-05-2010 20:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 818114)
yeh margaret he really disgusted me, but am a great believer in what goes around comes around, sorry can't claim responsibilty fer his black eye, but will happily buy a pint fer whomever caused it.:)

(Les' stands at Cashy's front door asking all the would-be claimants of above pint to form an orderly queue!)

:D

MargaretR 26-05-2010 20:23

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I think one black eye is better than two - otherwise we would mistake him for a cuddly panda - which we know he isn't

JCB 26-05-2010 20:55

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 818061)
I'm looking forward to them all coming on here later to explain why the Independents decided to abstain when it was supposedly a certainty that they would vote for Labour.

BTW - if you wonder whether the Indendents are working as a clique, you only have to look at all their election campaign leaflets - all printed by the same printer to the same format - gives you a clue ;)

Well that's how democracy works , Gayle , in our great free-enterprise , Capitlalist System.Everyone for him/herself and to hell with anyone except number one.

Ken Moss 26-05-2010 20:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 818061)
I'm looking forward to them all coming on here later to explain why the Independents decided to abstain when it was supposedly a certainty that they would vote for Labour.

BTW - if you wonder whether the Indendents are working as a clique, you only have to look at all their election campaign leaflets - all printed by the same printer to the same format - gives you a clue ;)

The Independents have never made any secret of the fact that they are, for want of a better expression, a group of individuals with a common interest. They work together as a group but still remain completely autonomous within themselves.

The whole point of going independent is to remove yourself from party politics and just get on with the job, which in fairness to them they have done. Abstaining today was merely a way of extricating themselves from an inevitable situation that the whole chamber was forced into by the Conservatives.

If Paul Barton had not been dragooned into line by the Tories then it may well have been a different story.

Ken Moss 26-05-2010 21:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 818093)
well i think this should be stickied until the next election so as to remind everyone how crooked this lot are and to show why voting indipendant isnt a good idea in hyndburn

whats teh point in standing for election if you are going to abstain from important decisions for teh district.If you do not vote you are not representing your people and tehrefore shoud stand down and give way to somone who will vote on important matters

in my opinion this is nothing more than an absolute disgusting display of backhand polotics and corruptness

I wouldn't go so far as to attack the Independents for what they have done today and in terms of local politics their hearts are in the right place.

Unfortunately, being Independent is a way of showing your interest in local politics but trying to remove yourself from local politics at the same time. It also removes the crutch of a party machine when you need help and certainly leaves you at a disadvantage in the council chamber when it comes to voting for facilities in your ward as you become reliant on votes from other parties.

Ken Moss 26-05-2010 21:10

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 818271)
Well that's how democracy works , Gayle , in our great free-enterprise , Capitlalist System.Everyone for him/herself and to hell with anyone except number one.

Forgive me, but that post smacks of a complete ignorance of independent councillors. They were left in a situation today where they were going to be on the losing side so they instead stuck to their principles and abstained.

You bang on about principles and the moral high ground but chide councillors when they exert those very qualities.

g jones 26-05-2010 21:20

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As described, 'mere minions r us' were subjected to pure pantomime as first the woefully sick Mayor was ushered in via he TD plated Range Rover. Holding the walls and the furniture to balance his way to the front, our 'deathly' Mayor was unable to breath at times, mutter incoherently.

Malcolm was cosseted, nay wrapped in soft cotton wool and moved as far from the interference of opposition councillors as possible sitting amidst the ilk of his support.

Months stretching on years of protestations by certain Conservatives melted into the ether of a political blackhole as conscience was sidelined for the pleasure-dome of power and voluminous golden allowances. Principled Tories abandoning their pre-stated principle's and falling into line.

The first votes cast resulted in 18-17. Abstensions followed from independents on further votes leaving most decisions 17-14 reflecting the votes cast by the two major party's.

All was clearly lost in the full attended meeting. The indicator of that loss being the early alphabetical vote Mayor Paul (B)arton, the last remaining doubter who voted nay to John Broadley and aye to Malcolm Pritchard. The vote for Mayor being 18-17.

Councillors David (M)ason; David (P)arkins and Ian (R)obinson where able to choose to abstain on further votes as the predictability of defeat established itself.

The dramatic event was the Deputy Mayorality with Mayor Paul Barton declining to step into that role. In a cheap appeasement, Cllr Britcliffe without forewarning, moved John Broadley and resisted an adjournment to force the outcome.

An adjournment was acquired. John honourably refusing the political bribe in the interim. Instead Munsif Dad (Labour) was advanced only to met with the political jeopardy of Cllr Britcliffe seeking to grasp the asian vote back, withdrawing the offer to Labour by counter nominating Allah Dad.

With Mayor Pritchard moored in the first citizens seat and refusing to vote initially, the chamber accumulated a final and dramatic deadlock of 17-17. Mayor Pritchard was then forced to use his privy casting and golden vote. The chamber witnessed the longest silence in my memory as indecision gripped the Mayor.

Time passed but the heavy hand and staring glare of Cllr Britcliffe finally brought the axe down on Labour's nomination with the Mayor's decision completing his political transaction nominating Conservative Allah Dad.

accyman 26-05-2010 21:21

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which way did pritchard vote or was his vote not required to swing a victory leaving his mayorship safe and sound without it ?

Ken Moss 26-05-2010 21:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 818096)
Any of you lot read 'Private Eye'? I've not read it for a year or so, but there used to be an excellent section in there entitled 'Rotten Boroughs', all about the corruptness in various local authorities. I guess after the events of today, Hyndburn will now fit that description. I wonder if we'll read about it all shortly.

After today? The rot set in years ago, around 1999 at a rough guess.

Still, pity where it's due, the previous Labour administration and all that guff. There's only enough money in the pot for six new Oswaldtwistle projects this year instead of the usual ten.

The rest of us, as predicted, are being relocated to Far Corfe.

JCB 26-05-2010 21:26

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 818284)
Forgive me, but that post smacks of a complete ignorance of independent councillors. They were left in a situation today where they were going to be on the losing side so they instead stuck to their principles and abstained.

You bang on about principles and the moral high ground but chide councillors when they exert those very qualities.

I stand corrected Ken.

I should have read the post more carefully.

I was having a dig at our democracy in general.

If Independents are genuinely independent I admire them.

I may be naive but I don't see a need for party politics in local government.Nationally I dont think Parliament would function without them.

As for banging on about principles and the moral high ground I am far behind the politicians.

accyman 26-05-2010 21:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 818284)
Forgive me, but that post smacks of a complete ignorance of independent councillors. They were left in a situation today where they were going to be on the losing side so they instead stuck to their principles and abstained.

You bang on about principles and the moral high ground but chide councillors when they exert those very qualities.

sory but i dont care what your personal feelings are people are not there for themselves they are there because they have been elected to represent people and therefore have no buisness obstaining on issues that effect the whole area especialy ones as big as this.

i may be alone thinking that but when i vote for somone i vote for them to work for the area not sit back and watch everyone else

cashman 26-05-2010 21:27

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Twas shortly after the 17-17 n our new mayor staring his payback, i departed feeling utterly sick, i may be n ignorant obnoxious get, but i have never sold me soul.:(

Ken Moss 26-05-2010 21:28

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 818290)
which way did pritchard vote or was his vote not required to swing a victory leaving his mayorship safe and sound without it ?

Malcolm Pritchard voted for himself, which is perfectly acceptable practice.

cashman 26-05-2010 21:32

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 818296)
Malcolm Pritchard voted for himself, which is perfectly acceptable practice.

yep agree, was not acceptable to me though to vote fer the deputy mayor, he looked like he was crapping himself, but still did it.:rolleyes:

Ken Moss 26-05-2010 21:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 818293)
sory but i dont care what your personal feelings are people are not there for themselves they are there because they have been elected to represent people and therefore have no buisness obstaining on issues that effect the whole area especialy ones as big as this.

i may be alone thinking that but when i vote for somone i vote for them to work for the area not sit back and watch everyone else

True, but part and parcel of voting for an independent councillor is that you are effectively distancing yourself from party politics.

It comes with the territory, although I accept what you are saying.

Ken Moss 26-05-2010 21:41

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 818299)
yep agree, was not acceptable to me though to vote fer the deputy mayor, he looked like he was crapping himself, but still did it.:rolleyes:

The glaring blackened eye of a council leader who was exuding pressure on him from every pore didn't help.

I suspect there won't be any freshly-taken smiling pictures of the Leader in the Observer this week.

cashman 26-05-2010 21:43

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 818302)
True, but part and parcel of voting for an independent councillor is that you are effectively distancing yourself from party politics.

It comes with the territory, although I accept what you are saying.

Funny then how our new mayor, himself n independant councillor didn't practice the same distancing to get the job.:(

Ken Moss 26-05-2010 21:45

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 818304)
Funny then how our new mayor, himself n independant councillor didn't practice the same distancing to get the job.:(

Appalling cynicism, if I may say so.

When the Leader makes a promise he sticks to it, Cllr Pritchard knew that better than anyone so there can't have been any dirty politics going on, can there?

cashman 26-05-2010 21:48

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 818305)
Appalling cynicism, if I may say so.

Ta Ken its one of me better qualities.:);)

Ken Moss 26-05-2010 21:50

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It was also pointed out today by Cllr Britcliffe that the AGM was moved specifically so that all members of the controlling group could be in attendance, since they had the largest number of councillors and it was his way of maintaining a stable council.

Technically, they still don't have overall control and will be heavily reliant on Cllr Malcolm Pritchard in the future to secure majority votes but keep that to yourselves....

cashman 26-05-2010 21:53

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 818307)
It was also pointed out today by Cllr Britcliffe that the AGM was moved specifically so that all members of the controlling group could be in attendance, since they had the largest number of councillors and it was his way of maintaining a stable council.

Technically, they still don't have overall control and will be heavily reliant on Cllr Malcolm Pritchard in the future to secure majority votes but keep that to yourselves....

well suppose its worth it fer a bog chain around yer neck, no sh1thouse is complete wi out one.:D

claytonender 26-05-2010 22:02

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Todays fiasco was the final act in the long running saga of Malcolm being elected as Mayor of Hyndburn.

I voted for my fellow ward councillor (and good friend) John Broadley to be Mayor. John is the epitomy of everything that a hard working councillor should be and would have made an excellent Mayor. John and his wife Jean would have been a credit to the Borough of Hyndburn, as our first citizens, and to the town of Church. But now we have a Mayor who has besmirched the office by his behavior in attaining it.

This is a man who has been prepared to do anything to get a chain round his neck. I hope he is proud of having a sizable number of his fellow councillors vote against him becoming Mayor. I just hope that he isn't expecting too many councillors to attend his official 'Mayor Making' on Saturday 26 June, because I suspect he will rather disappointed.

Maybe he would like to post his views on this forum of what it feels like to sell your soul for 'thirty pieces of silver' or in this case a golden bauble.

Ken Moss 26-05-2010 22:08

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Malcolm Pritchard: Vote Labour, get Conservative.

I'm reluctant to be too scathing about Malcolm as he was the first non-Labour councillor to offer me a friendly word but I suspect the residents of Milnshaw will be pretty hacked off when news filters through of his voting tactics today.

garinda 26-05-2010 22:22

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Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 818311)
Todays fiasco was the final act in the long running saga of Malcolm being elected as Mayor of Hyndburn. This is a man who has been prepared to do anything to get a chain round his neck. I hope he is proud of having a sizable number of his fellow councillors vote against him becoming Mayor. I just hope that he isn't expecting too many councillors to attend his official 'Mayor Making' on Saturday 26 June, because I suspect he will rather disappointed.

Maybe he would like to post his views on this forum of what it feels like to sell your soul for 'thirty pieces of silver' or in this case a golden bauble.

He seems to have been oddly silent, since all this brouhaha exploded, even though he's been on the forum many times recently, and even read this thread.

His last post was the rather cryptic invitation to pm him, as to his reasoning. Seemingly because he didn't have the strength to say what he believes publicly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyndburn (Post 814054)
Neil give me a private message with your contact details and i will tell you malcolmp

At least his last post actually seemed to be by Mayor Pritchard. Unlike his earlier posts, in which he spoke of himself in the third person, and says he 'knows' himself, which is most handy.

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Originally Posted by hyndburn (Post 621115)
I no clare has done alot of work in milnshaw all so her dad malcolm has i no malcolm will talk to about this just call him

I'm sure the whole Borough will be looking forward to seeing Cllr. Pritchard enthroned at the mayor making ceremony.

It'll probably be the best remembered occasion since the one when the viaduct was hung in protest banners, outraged at who was being made mayor that eventful day.

Perhaps Cllr. Pritchard won't even wear the historic chains of office after all.

At this very minute there could be a jeweller, busily beavering away, fashioning a new chain, out of the thirty pieces of silver.

Let's put all that aside, and wish him well.

After three.

One, two, three.

'For he's a jolly good fellow.
For he's a ....'

Nevermind then, have it your own way.

:rolleyes:

accyman 26-05-2010 22:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 818307)

Technically, they still don't have overall control and will be heavily reliant on Cllr Malcolm Pritchard in the future to secure majority votes but keep that to yourselves....


lets just hope nothing happens to sway his vote to any particular party then.

by the way who got the mayorship and who prommised it to him i cant recall :rolleyes:

thankfully accywebb has not only a lot of members but a hell of a lot of visitors viewing it so thankfully people can make up their own conclusions as to if somthing crooked was going on or not .Personaly i would put the pair on a rotation scheme into the stocks in huncoat and let people throw vegitables at them that are as rotten as their polotics.

allegedly ( learnt that from ian hislop :D )

Ken Moss 26-05-2010 22:38

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 818321)
lets just hope nothing happens to sway his vote to any particular party then.

by the way who got the mayorship and who prommised it to him i cant recall :rolleyes:

thankfully accywebb has not only a lot of members but a hell of a lot of visitors viewing it so thankfully people can make up their own conclusions as to if somthing crooked was going on or not .Personaly i would put the pair on a rotation scheme into the stocks in huncoat and let people throw vegitables at them that are as rotten as their polotics.

allegedly ( learnt that from ian hislop :D )

You can get away with virtually anything if you put 'allegedly' after it. Go on, go wild.

What are your views on the newly-elected leader of the Council?

accyman 26-05-2010 22:42

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 818327)
You can get away with virtually anything if you put 'allegedly' after it. Go on, go wild.

What are your views on the newly-elected leader of the Council?

if i started i wouldnt be able to stop and the internet would run out ink and thats before i even broached the subject of special little friends :(

MargaretR 26-05-2010 22:43

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I wish you hadn't asked.
Just thinking about it 'damages my soul'

cashman 26-05-2010 22:46

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i could tell ya, but dont want a ban.

suedarbo 26-05-2010 22:47

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I don't know anything about Peter Britcliffe, I must do a bit of Googling and get myself up to date. I remember my dad muttering his name a few times but why I don't know

accyman 26-05-2010 22:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 818314)
Malcolm Pritchard: Vote Labour, get Conservative.

I'm reluctant to be too scathing about Malcolm as he was the first non-Labour councillor to offer me a friendly word but I suspect the residents of Milnshaw will be pretty hacked off when news filters through of his voting tactics today.

I told mi mum who had friends round all of who voted for him thinking he was anti tory so word will travel fast, theres nowt as reliable as a womans gob to get things rolling lol :D

cashman 26-05-2010 22:49

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Originally Posted by suedarbo (Post 818333)
I don't know anything about Peter Britcliffe, I must do a bit of Googling and get myself up to date. I remember my dad muttering his name a few times but why I don't know

Bet i know, he was muttering so ya wouldn't hear the language.:D

accyman 26-05-2010 23:10

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you know somthing i recall reading somewhere on here that the tory councilors were forbidden to come on to accyweb by their leader and in all fairness i thought what a load of nonsence but lets face it we have labour councilors on here and even a labour local mp on here answering questions and even facing up to criticism but where are the tory councilors infact thinking about it even one of the indipendants is no longer visiting us openly so i assume he is now following the same orders or for a better way of putting it dancing to a new tune

what kind of fear would it take to impliment to keep the whole tory eliment of our council away ?

surely it cant be true that the leader of HBC would forbid his minions not to comment on a website visited by many many of its people.

cashman 26-05-2010 23:12

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Tell ya what Accyman i sure as hell wouldn't put money on it.

accyman 26-05-2010 23:16

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 818338)
Tell ya what Accyman i sure as hell wouldn't put money on it.

nor would i

im merely choosing my words carefully as i had a £5 win today on a scratch card and dont want to loose it in a libel case against me :D

cashman 26-05-2010 23:22

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the real pity in all this mess is M.P. has undone much of the good work hes done, fer n EGO trip. IMHO.:(

Bernard Dawson 26-05-2010 23:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 818303)
The glaring blackened eye of a council leader who was exuding pressure on him from every pore didn't help.

I suspect there won't be any freshly-taken smiling pictures of the Leader in the Observer this week.


I think the pressure comes Ken, because Peter knows, even though they managed to win the vote at the AGM, he realises that the days of the Tories running this Council are coming to an end.

He knows he can no longer rely on the cheap votes they get from an unpopular Government to keep them in control.

garinda 27-05-2010 00:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 818337)
you know somthing i recall reading somewhere on here that the tory councilors were forbidden to come on to accyweb by their leader and in all fairness i thought what a load of nonsence but lets face it we have labour councilors on here and even a labour local mp on here answering questions and even facing up to criticism but where are the tory councilors infact thinking about it even one of the indipendants is no longer visiting us openly so i assume he is now following the same orders or for a better way of putting it dancing to a new tune

what kind of fear would it take to impliment to keep the whole tory eliment of our council away ?

surely it cant be true that the leader of HBC would forbid his minions not to comment on a website visited by many many of its people.

The Leader himself has made three posts on here, and Cllr. Addison's a member too.

Though I don't think she's quiet got to grips with AW, as I sent her a nice pm, saying who I was, and congratulating her on her victory, and she didn't know how to send a reply of thanks.

So there are two Tory councillors who are Accy Web members...that we know of, and perhaps one or two that just pop in here to have a little read.

:rolleyes:

suedarbo 27-05-2010 00:18

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Is the mayor reading this thread?

garinda 27-05-2010 00:25

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Originally Posted by suedarbo (Post 818361)
Is the mayor reading this thread?

Yes.

He's online at this very minute, and reading this thread.

Perhaps he might post a few words of thanks, for all the good wishes he's received.

hyndburn 27-05-2010 00:29

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Yes thank you so love malcolmp

garinda 27-05-2010 00:34

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Originally Posted by hyndburn (Post 818364)
Yes thank you so love malcolmp

Is that you, your Worship, or is it the Malcolm Pritchard who 'knows' Malcolm Pritchard?

Whoever it is I hope your year is as thrilling as your journey to becoming the mayor has been.

Mancie 27-05-2010 00:36

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Originally Posted by hyndburn (Post 818364)
Yes thank you so love malcolmp

What a pathetic response... I'm not local so not sure what's going on but are you the new Mayor?:D... I've read all way through the thread without comment but that post is a classic.:D

garinda 27-05-2010 00:38

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 818366)
Is that you, your Worship, or is it the Malcolm Pritchard who 'knows' Malcolm Pritchard?

Whoever it is I hope your year is as thrilling as your journey to becoming the mayor has been.

Though I rather fear history may remember you for being a pawn in a political game, and someone who sold his principles for some perceived glittering prize, rather than for all the good work you've done.

suedarbo 27-05-2010 00:39

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If you are the new mayor shouldn't you be leading by example?

Mancie 27-05-2010 00:44

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this has to be a windup.. hyndburn cannot possibly be your new Mayor :D

accyman 27-05-2010 02:08

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it cant be him surely ?

no way has he yet finished pulling the daggers out of the backs of his constituants

edit:

ya know somthing with all that has come to light i hope the papers run a more detailed story exposing this chirade and demands he step down as mayor effective imidiatly as he is nothing more than a public disgrace and an embarrassment to hyndburn .

claytonender 27-05-2010 06:14

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Maybe the Tories don't post on here because they are all spineless as was demonstrated yesterday when Tory members who have openly said that they did not want Malcolm Pritchard as Mayor voted for him

Ken Moss 27-05-2010 06:33

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 818346)
I think the pressure comes Ken, because Peter knows, even though they managed to win the vote at the AGM, he realises that the days of the Tories running this Council are coming to an end.

He knows he can no longer rely on the cheap votes they get from an unpopular Government to keep them in control.

Oh absolutely, Bernard. The novelty of a coalition government will probably have worn off by the next round of local elections and despite the majorities that David Cameron and Peter Britcliffe would like us to think they have, they're hardly running away with it as it stands.

Still, there's a good old fashioned get out clause for all situations should things get desperate:

"It was the previous administration's fault, don't blame us."

Peter Britcliffe used it yesterday to justify the thin year we're about to have, despite the fact that his party are now in control both here and in Westminster and a new age of prosperity looms before us. There'll probably be enough in the pot for some nice new projects in Oswaldtwistle though, so we can all breathe a sigh of relief.

It's lazy politics for anyone with half an eye on the ball.

Ken Moss 27-05-2010 06:35

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Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 818379)
Maybe the Tories don't post on here because they are all spineless as was demonstrated yesterday when Tory members who have openly said that they did not want Malcolm Pritchard as Mayor voted for him

You seem to be forgetting that Cllr Storey voted for John Broadley!

It was nice while it lasted....

claytonender 27-05-2010 06:53

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 818384)
You seem to be forgetting that Cllr Storey voted for John Broadley!

It was nice while it lasted....

Yes that was a Freudian slip -wonder if she will be punished for it.

It is very convenient when you can change your mind on a recorded vote, bet none of us would have been allowed too.

I have requested a list of the how members cast their recorded votes.

Ken Moss 27-05-2010 07:14

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Originally Posted by suedarbo (Post 818333)
I don't know anything about Peter Britcliffe, I must do a bit of Googling and get myself up to date. I remember my dad muttering his name a few times but why I don't know

To get a measure of the man who writes the songs for Hyndburn, take a look at his homepage:

Councillor Peter Britcliffe - Home

He hasn't looked like that for 20 years.

garinda 27-05-2010 07:42

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 818319)
He seems to have been oddly silent, since all this brouhaha exploded, even though he's been on the forum many times recently, and even read this thread.

His last post was the rather cryptic invitation to pm him, as to his reasoning. Seemingly because he didn't have the strength to say what he believes publicly.

Originally Posted by hyndburn http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...s/viewpost.gif
Neil give me a private message with your contact details and i will tell you malcolmp

At least his last post actually seemed to be by Mayor Pritchard. Unlike his earlier posts, in which he spoke of himself in the third person, and says he 'knows' himself, which is most handy.

Originally Posted by hyndburn http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...s/viewpost.gif
I no clare has done alot of work in milnshaw all so her dad malcolm has i no malcolm will talk to about this just call him

I'm sure the whole Borough will be looking forward to seeing Cllr. Pritchard enthroned at the mayor making ceremony.

It'll probably be the best remembered occasion since the one when the viaduct was hung in protest banners, outraged at who was being made mayor that eventful day.

Perhaps Cllr. Pritchard won't even wear the historic chains of office after all.

At this very minute there could be a jeweller, busily beavering away, fashioning a new chain, out of the thirty pieces of silver.

Let's put all that aside, and wish him well.

After three.

One, two, three.

'For he's a jolly good fellow.
For he's a ....'

Nevermind then, have it your own way.

:rolleyes:

Oh dearie me.

It appears that his Worship, our new mayor, has more than the two personalities that we knew about. There are three!

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Originally Posted by malcolm.eric (Post 447074)
hi did you no that P Britcliffe from hyndburn bc in his allowances got 22.565.72 this last year Also that M Pritchard got just 1.00 you are the 1st tono

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post447074

Considering the organ grinder he's now performing for, it's more than a little ironic that in this post he rubbishes Cllr. Britcliffe, and gives himself a pat on the back.

What was I saying, about knowing the rules of war, before rushing headlong into the melee?

Using more than One Account
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:rolleyes:

garinda 27-05-2010 07:57

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'I could throttle you for writing that vile letter to the Observer, and losing us valuable support, putting my position in jeopardy.'

http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/778.$plit/C...A03%3A59%3A111

'Still we've scraped through, so put your Victorian bonnet back on Marlene, and let's go and celebrate by cracking open the champagne in the Rose and Crown.'

Less 27-05-2010 08:03

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 818393)
Oh dearie me.

It appears that his Worship, our new mayor, has more than the two personalities that we knew about. There are three!


http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post447074

Considering the organ grinder he's now performing for, it's more than a little ironic that in this post he rubbishes Cllr. Britcliffe, and gives himself a pat on the back.



:rolleyes:

It's O.K. rindy, he isn't breaking any of his own rules, so he'll sleep well at night.

Unless he gets a visit from the Ghosts of the Three Mayors of Hyndburn, Past, Present and Future to show him the errors of his ways.

(He should get on quite well with the ghost of Mayor present after all he already knows him extremely well.)
:)

garinda 27-05-2010 08:18

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 818397)
He should get on quite well with the ghost of Mayor present after all he already knows him extremely well.

He's probably phoned him, to offer his congratulations.

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Less 27-05-2010 08:22

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 818400)
He's probably phoned him, to offer his congratulations.

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Surprised he hasn't started a thread on here offering his best wishes to the new him!
:D

garinda 27-05-2010 08:25

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 818401)
Surprised he hasn't started a thread on here offering his best wishes to the new him!
:D

A good idea.

I doubt anyone else will start one.

It's down to himselves.

:rolleyes:

suedarbo 27-05-2010 08:43

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 818403)
A good idea.

I doubt anyone else will start one.

It's down to himselves.

:rolleyes:

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:
He has multiple personality disorder.................allegedly :D

Less 27-05-2010 08:49

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Originally Posted by suedarbo (Post 818406)
:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:
He has multiple personality disorder.................allegedly :D

Haven't you first of all to have a 'personality', for it to become, 'disordered'?
:confused:

suedarbo 27-05-2010 09:02

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ooops sorry Less, I didn't think of that. I'll put it down to lack of sleep :unsure8:

g jones 27-05-2010 18:13

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I think Garinda, you have got to the heart of the issue.

garinda 27-05-2010 18:56

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 818492)
I think Garinda, you have got to the heart of the issue.

I actually feel sorry for him.

Perhaps we all have a price.

His desire to become mayor, at any cost, isn't worth what he's paid, by damaging his reputation, and the hurt it must have caused his family.

derekgas 27-05-2010 19:08

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 818294)
Twas shortly after the 17-17 n our new mayor staring his payback, i departed feeling utterly sick, i may be n ignorant obnoxious get, but i have never sold me soul.:(

Does that mean I get my fiver back then?? :tongueout:

Margaret Pilkington 27-05-2010 20:24

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 818507)
I actually feel sorry for him.

Perhaps we all have a price.

His desire to become mayor, at any cost, isn't worth what he's paid, by damaging his reputation, and the hurt it must have caused his family.

Once you sell your principles you also sell your integrity and your credibility........things that have taken a lifetime of work to achieve, and they cannot be retrieved.....ever.

He has to live with that.
I think it was a very poor bargain.......he did all that to wear a chain.

garinda 27-05-2010 23:28

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 818532)
Once you sell your principles you also sell your integrity and your credibility........things that have taken a lifetime of work to achieve, and they cannot be retrieved.....ever.

He has to live with that.
I think it was a very poor bargain.......he did all that to wear a chain.

I'm afraid I'd probably only sell my soul to the Devil, and betray my beliefs, if kidnappers were threatening to kill my nearest and dearest.

Even then, I'd expect a clout from my mum, after she was released, for giving in to bullies, and being soft.

:D

cashman 27-05-2010 23:49

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think this sums things up.:D

MarCn 28-05-2010 15:38

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 818492)
I think Garinda, you have got to the heart of the issue.

I think too

garinda 28-05-2010 15:53

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Originally Posted by MarCn (Post 818731)
I think too


Perhaps when I got to the heart, I shouldn't have driven a stake through it.

:rolleyes:

jaysay 28-05-2010 16:44

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 818737)
Perhaps when I got to the heart, I shouldn't have driven a stake through it.

:rolleyes:

Well you voted for him;)

cashman 28-05-2010 16:48

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 818739)
Well you voted for him;)

Think he was refering to M.P. not the serpent.:D

garinda 28-05-2010 17:09

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 818739)
Well you voted for him;)

Malcolm Pritchard didn't stand in my ward.

Gayle 28-05-2010 17:32

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I think he'll mean Britcliffe, you voted for him.

garinda 28-05-2010 17:39

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 818750)
I think he'll mean Britcliffe, you voted for him.

Yes, but 99% of my posts in this thread, were vitriol aimed at our new mayor. Which I think was the point of the posts that said I'd got to the heart of the matter.

As usual, not only has Jaysay got he wrong end of the sick, it's an entirely different stick.

:rolleyes:

lindsay ormerod 28-05-2010 18:31

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Wonder if our new Mayor will get a ghost writer for his Mayor making speech? He doesn't come across as terribly literate, though no doubt PB has it all in hand, ready typed, using short words.:rolleyes:

garinda 28-05-2010 18:37

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 818755)
Wonder if our new Mayor will get a ghost writer for his Mayor making speech?

Approaches have been made.

Though I haven't yet agreed a fee.

:D

cashman 28-05-2010 19:08

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 818753)
Yes, but 99% of my posts in this thread, were vitriol aimed at our new mayor. Which I think was the point of the posts that said I'd got to the heart of the matter.

As usual, not only has Jaysay got he wrong end of the sick, it's an entirely different stick.

:rolleyes:

Is Gayle going the same way i ask meself?:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Gayle 28-05-2010 22:00

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 818772)
Is Gayle going the same way i ask meself?:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:


Not sure what you're saying there. I was just saying to Garinda what I thought Jaysay meant. I was perfectly clear on what both of them meant.

cashman 28-05-2010 22:03

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 818838)
Not sure what you're saying there. I was just saying to Garinda what I thought Jaysay meant. I was perfectly clear on what both of them meant.

I know ya were, also knew i'd probably get a bite.:D;)

Gayle 28-05-2010 22:06

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 818839)
I know ya were, also knew i'd probably get a bite.:D;)

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused:

jaysay 29-05-2010 09:52

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 818759)
Approaches have been made.

Though I haven't yet agreed a fee.

:D

Already sorted:D

jaysay 29-05-2010 09:56

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 818841)
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused:

Don't let it bother you Gayle you have to have a very complex mind to work out where cashy is coming from:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::D

cashman 29-05-2010 10:06

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 818932)
Don't let it bother you Gayle you have to have a very complex mind to work out where cashy is coming from:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::D

Is that a nice way of saying gayles simple?:eek:

jaysay 29-05-2010 12:05

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 818936)
Is that a nice way of saying gayles simple?:eek:

No cashy quite the opposite really, was trying to say that your a nutter:D:D:D

jaysay 29-05-2010 12:08

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 818958)
No cashy quite the opposite really, was trying to say that your a nutter:D:D:D

Oh I did forget to add your on a par with me:D:rolleyes::rolleyes:

garinda 29-05-2010 15:16

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 818929)
Already sorted:D

Oh cheers. Thanks for sorting that for me.

Though I will be donating my fee to the Home for Morally Bereft Mayors.

;)


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