Councillor Britcliffe Called off the AGM
 

I see Britcliffe has been up to his tricks again.
With one day's notice he called off the AGM at which a new leader is elected.
His reason was the mayor's accident but Graham Jones had agreed to pair off with the mayor so that the mayor's absence would not give Labour an advantage.
Councillor Kathleen Pratt was unable to attend the AGM.That would have been one vote less for Britcliffe.
Now we know the true reason for the meeting's cancellation.
It's not the first time Britcliffe has cancelled meetings at short notice for his own ends.

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Which Horse's mouth can you get to confirm the above to be true and prove it's not just rumour & speculation on your part?
:confused:

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well i suspect its true n sure as hell "Arkle" aint told me.:rofl38::rofl38:;)

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The story's in this weekend's Observer, though not yet on the website.

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shoudlnt there be rules preventing somone cancelling important meetings just because things arnt going their way

bar a bombscare i dont see any reason for a meeting to be cancelled as plenty of notice is given when it will be although i feel if it required a bombscare to cancel a meeting on would be called in from a payphone in ossy somwhere lol

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Perhaps thats why its important accyman? important he gets re-elected.:D

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would the next mayor still get to be mayor if the agm had gone ahead and britcliff was defeated

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P.M Hyndburn he should be able to tell ya.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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No.

It said in the Observer Labour have nominated another councillor for the role of the next may, not Cllr. Prtitchard.

Strangely he's been rather quiet on here of late.

Perhaps it has something to do with us quoting him, talking about himself in the third person, and saying he'd phone him.

:D

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may have been quiet but hes been snecking.:D

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Just in case anyone missed the classic post, and is ineed of a good snigger, here it is again.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post621115

Having apparently multiple personalities, perhaps his title should be changed to 'Kings maker', plural.

:D

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Which one though?

The real one, or the one that 'knows him', or the one he phones, also called Cllr. Malcolm Pritchard?

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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holy smoke did britcliff get him the position of Prime Minister :eek:

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great we will have a schitzophrenic mayor

maybe the flag should be flown at different levels corrosponding to which one is playing mayor that day.

just hope one of his alter egos dosnt stuff that gold necklace into a big bag and mail it to cash for gold or somthing lol

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Don't think so, but hes sure into coilitions.:D quick run one of ems back. pmsl

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Jaysay -
Congrats on your election last week Malcolm good result
John
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/m.../hyndburn.html

...and a belated congratulations from the rest of us too.
Even if it's a year late.

Though it looks even last year the Tories were appreciative of your success.

:rolleyes:

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: Jeez this just gets better.

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Oh goody.

Cllr. Pritchard's actually reading this thread, at this very minute.

We're bound to get the truth of the matter now.

As long as it's the right personality who's logged in.

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wouldnt it be easier to send him to the mental ward where he can pretend to be mayor

im sure napoleon and jesus would appreciate the company

edit:

i thought it was agianst forum rules to have more than one account

ban the sod

all of him/them

cant even adhere to a simple rule on a local forum what chance is there elswhere

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Yes, sort of makes a mockery of old Jaysay berating Bernard Dawson for chosing the username Robert Owen when he first joined, and as he was entitled to do, just as anyone else is.

The rather grand username 'hyndburn' doesn't exactly make it clear who's posting, especially when Cllr. Pritchard posts he 'knows' Cllr. Pritchard, and will 'phone' him.

In terms of grandness, that username can come second only to 'TheLeadersOfficeHBC', who also posted in the third person.

:D

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i now its funny but when you stop and think about it theres room for concern that people like this are in charge of a multi million pound budget

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bet old jaysay keeps well away from this un.:D though will be a nice suprise fer him in the morning. pmsl

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no he will log in as his alter ego jambutty :D

JOKING :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

( thats one defimation of charecter case i couldnt win lol )

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Well seems that was a correct assumption.:D

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As someone who knows nowt about Accrington politics--If Councillor Britcliffe is so unpopular how come he keeps being re-elected?

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yeh better ask the ex labour now independant "Hyndburn" that un jim.:D

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He's elected in St. Andrews ward, and has been for over twenty years, because the majority of people in the ward think he does a good job.

He wasn't elected as the leader of the council by the people of Hyndburn, but by other Tory councillors. Although now we have in effect a hung council, so who'll become the leader is all down to one supposed independent councillor. Who has stated he'll side with the Tories, in exchange for his becoming the next mayor of the borough.

Cllr. Britcliffe's popularity, outside his Oswaldtwistle ward, remains open to debate. Though when he stood in the General Election, when the whole of Hyndburn could vote for him, he was rejected, twice.

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I only comment on things which interest me, cancelling a meeting is not a phenomena, and doesn't warrant any serious thoughts from me, I'll leave that to those with little else to do:p

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...and what caught your interest here, which caused you to comment?

:rolleyes:

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probably the lure of the bait.:D plus the truth is hard to digest. lol

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Even the oldest trout can succumb, it the worm looks tasty enough.

:D

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I had to poke cashy ith a stick:D:p

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Please People, will you not tease the X Tory, Jay is the nearest we have of a 'Thinking', Tory on site, lets get back to the Thread Starter, If it's who we all know it to be...

My God, Someone in our area was thick enough to vote him in! Let's not call the poor Soul for being duped into a position he isn't capable of, let's hang our own heads because we couldn't dupe someone better!

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The point about the changing of the date of the Council Meeting is that the leader of the Councillor is attempting to make it as difficult as possible for some members of the Labour Group to get there. That is some members of the Council actually have to go to work. Others have child caring responsibilities. And he knows that

Council meetings should be held at a time when it's convenient for most members to attend. And not when it suits the political machinations of the leader of the Council

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If the leader of the council was Labour and in the same position are you trying to tell us he wouldn't use those tactics.:D

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were those tactics ever used before this guy was leader is a more relevant question.;) ya can't say what maybe,only what was.

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The Leader of the Council seems to have a hell of a lot of power.
Shouldn't these arrangements for meetings , dates etc. be in the hands of a Council official acting as a non-political civil servant ?

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The story's on the Observer website now.

Leader accused of opportunism over accident - Accrington Observer

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I would like to think not.What I can tell you also is that I can't recall a leader of either the Tory Party or the Labour Party doing this in the past.

Of course meetings get changed from time to time. But in my experience there's every effort made to set the time and date that's convenient to most Councillors.

I'm sure you'd appreciate, that if you ask the leader of the Council,he would deny everything I'm saying.

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The meetings are usually set well in advance. The date of this meeting, the Council's A.G.M was set some months ago.

Meetings do get changed from time to time. And it's supposed to be done in consultation with all the political parties. The Labour Group wasn't consulted. We were told what the date of the meeting was going to be.

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so is there no where to turn to when the leader dosnt follow rules set out and if rules are not followed can that not invalidate the vote or the proceedings ?

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eh and some members defend this guy.:rolleyes:

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Thanks for that rindy, I could have found it for myself.:)

I was trying to point out to the enthusiastic newbie that posting without any form of reference is nothing more than hearsay, which at the time was all it was.

Not the best way to get a point across is it?;)

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The Leader has put pressure on council officials to change the meeting to the date and time he wanted. The latest date that the AGM of the Council had to be held (as per the constitution of HBC, which state that the AGM must be held no later than 21 days after the election) was Thursday 27 May.

Once the meeting was called off for Tuesday 18 May, the elected members had to be given 5 clear days notice, in writing of the date of the re arranged meeting. This meant that the meeting could only be held on either Wednesday 26 May or Thursday 27 May. Meetings of the Full Council are normally held at 7pm,
Miles Parkinson, who is the Labour Group Leader informed council officials that Thursday 27 May was the day when all Labour Councillors were available. But the meeting was called for 1.30pm on Wednesday 26 May, which meant that some members would find it very difficult to attend because of work commitments etc.

If officers have acted outside the constitution the facts can be reported to the Monitoring Officer, who has a duty under Section 5A of the 1989 Local Government and Housing Act to investigate contraventions of the council's rules and codes of practice. However, no matter how blatant the contravention is, there is no guarantee that the Monitoring Officer will find that there has been any wrongdoing.

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So in laymans,the likely outcome is ya can do sod all about it? and he probably is well aware of that?

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Got it in one.

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only thing to do then is pee on his parade and turn up one way or another

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question from the ignorant, is it possible fer those who cannot attend to give a written proxy vote?

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Could you possibly say exactly what pressure was applied by Britcliffe on to the council officials? I don't think he has the power to give 'em P45's, so it would be interesting to know what he did in order to get this meeting rearranged to the time and date.

Other than that, how much will it cost the ratepayers of Hyndburn for this nonsense?

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For some Councillors who work it's not always possible to get time of work to attend the meeting.

As Claytonender pointed out, full Council meetings have always been held in the evening. An evening meeting did mean that Councillors who work during the day would have good chance to attend the meeting.

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Don't think ya would need a great deal of pressure T, if ya don't consult the opposition about the date.

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No I'm afraid not.

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thought as much, but had to ask.

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I can see a case - just - for deferring the AGM, in the circumstances. What I can't see is the case for the timing. Has there been any precident for an afternoon AGM since 1974? If so, why? If not, then surely it is the job of the local officials to fully ensure that local government protocols are adhered to.

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Whomever the Monitering Officer is "Local" or not? have no idea,but seems to me like the M.O. is in somebodys back pocket.:rolleyes:

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In theory, would it be possible for all council meetings to be held in the evenings?

It really must limit the type of councillors we have, because it must be impossible for many people to take time off here and there, if they're in full time employment.

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Hi Jim. (are you former HCA Chair I did jury service with?)

Just to answer in part the question, how does he get back in?

The share of vote over the last few years has been 48-52 varying to 52-48 the other way. That usually produces 8 Tory wins and 4 Labour wins. This unfairness goes back to the boundary changes back in 2001 when Labour let Peter redraw the boundaries to his liking.

In fact Labour has won the popular vote the last 2 years and that is with Tories having the advantage of 3 of their seats having an extra councillor (so an extra election when Tories get to vote more often than Labour artificially skewing the popular vote).

This year Labour polled 42%, Conservative's 39%, Independent 17%. (presume 2% spoilt). If Labour had stood a candidate in Overton (ill health) and got 1200 votes as expected it would have been Labour 46%, Tory 38%, Independent 13%.

It is the reverse situation of the national boundaries and voting. Interesting Mr Clegg and Mr Cameron are arguing this needs correcting. Would they apply this thinking to Hyndburn one wonders?

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Hi Jim.

The share of vote (LAB-TORY) over the last few years has been 48-52 varying to 52-48 the other way. That usually produces 8 Tory wins and 4 Labour wins. This unfairness goes back to the boundary changes back in 2001 when Labour let Peter redraw the boundaries to his liking.

In fact Labour has won the popular vote the last 2 years and that is with Tories having the advantage of 3 of their seats having an extra councillor (so an extra election when Tories get to vote more often than Labour artificially skewing the popular vote).

This year Labour polled 42%, Conservative's 39%, Independent 17%. (presume 2% spoilt). If Labour had stood a candidate in Overton (ill health) and got 1200 votes as expected it would have been Labour 46%, Tory 38%, Independent 13%.

It is the reverse situation of the national boundaries and voting. Interestingy Mr Clegg and Mr Cameron are arguing this needs correcting. Would they apply this thinking to Hyndburn one wonders?

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I'm shocked Bernard, to even suggest such a thing about PB is shocking.....but true. :D :D

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Exactly what you would do if you were in the same position and you know it is, so don't even think of denying it

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When and who called the last "Afternoon" meeting? or any afternoon un fer that matter,to me yer defending the indefensible.

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If all councillors attend, Peter Britcliffe becomes leader. As it happens one has had a car crash and can't attend. You're telling me that if another party had a majority they wouldn't hold off until all their councillors could attend? Yes as much should be done to get all councillors there, but it seems to me theres a lot of crying wolf from a party that knows they don't have a majority anyway.

Meanwhile we have an MP wanting to charge the taxpayer £250 for a trip to London for purposes which are not to do with his job as an MP.

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you really are pathetic, still expect nowt else from a loser.:rolleyes:

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Hey Toryboy, read the first post properly before Talking around that foot you keep in your big gob!
:D

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If it is to do with another councillor being unable to attend then the same applies. I'm not defending the decision, I just think it's rather dull for Labour to cry wolf as if they have a majority and Peter Britcliffe is trying change the times to stop them.

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Instead of all the above, you could have said,

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It was always afternoon, then it changed in I think 2002, when Labour were in control for one year:p

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There has been one full Council meeting in the afternoon in the last thirty years. Full Council have always been held at 7pm Tuesday evening.

Why in the evening? because that's when its most convenient for members to get there.

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Andrew, we have a ludicrous system at the moment where protocol and consistution rules are flouted and bent to the will of one man who represents the best interests of both himself and his own ward. Hyndburn, whatever mystical land that might be, does not really exist outside the boundary of Oswaldtwistle.

There are set rules about full council meetings which have not been fully adhered to and which have passed through the legal and executive system with rather suspicious ease.

If the Leader of the Council truly believed in a democratic society then every vote would be by secret ballot and all full council meetings would be at a convenient time. 7.00pm is convenient for everyone, so why hold it in the afternoon unless you're desperate to get a vote to go your way and re-elect yourself as Leader of the Council?

Secret ballots can be requested if one third of the council want one, but this can be overturned by a mere six councillors who want a named ballot - the majority overturned by the minority.

As it stands, Cllr Britcliffe is not 100% guaranteed to be voted Leader of the Council next week as you seem to be forgetting the Independent councillors also have voting rights and are not over-enamoured of him.

By moving the full council meeting to 1.30pm it makes it quite difficult for all Labour councillors to make it to the meeting, therefore enabling Cllr Britcliffe a clear definite majority of at least one vote. It is jerrymandering and not in Hyndburn's best interests for any Leader to behave this way.

Just keep an eye on those purse strings if he gets re-elected. There is no money in the pot for any ward this year (in fact the Area Council in Rishton have been given a whopping £12k to spend for the year and we're quite well off with that compared to others) but just wait and see how many Oswaldtwistle projects get the green light.

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Sorry Bernard, I'll hold my hand up when I'm wrong, was thinking we were talking about the AGM (Mayor Making) which was always in the afternoon.

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The Mayor Making for years was always in the evening as well. At that time it was combined with the AGM. In recent years the two have been split. The more formal AGM has been held in the evening, whilst the Mayor Making has tended to be on a Saturday morning.

I use to like the Mayor Making in the evening. You could have a few pints after the meeting.

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Spoken like a true Accy lad! :D

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I can't agree with you that a secret ballot is more democratic. Councillors should be held accountable for how they vote. The people of Hyndburn can't hold them accountable if they don't know which way they've voted.

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It never stopped me in the afternoon either Bernard, it was just that I tended to get more gatted that's all:D Think the last mayor making/AGM in an afternoon I attended was when Dog Hayes was Mayor, I ended up in the Heys Inn while god knows what time:D that I think was 10 years ago?

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There is already a facility for that, or there was? by asking for a named vote (am I right Bernard) whereas the who voted which way is recorded in the minutes of the meeting

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that was perhaps cos of yer employment? we both know that its not so easy to get release wi some firms, therefore making it unfair to have em at afternoon, i would condem that strongly know matter whom it was, seems you won't.:rolleyes:

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When I first started going to these mayor making ceremonies cashy the control was firmly in labours hands in fact the mayor was Cliff Westell so I cant really see your point:confused:

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Point is simple mate, i think afternoon meeting, when it can be easily avoided (as it seems this one could) is totally un-necessary, also unfair on anyone who cannot attend.

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Can't disagree I was just saying how it was twenty years ago cashy, which was the norm irrespective of political control

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That's right,recorded votes are quite common,whereas secret ballot's are quite rare. In fact I can't recall one in a Council Meeting

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Andrew. I do not want to pay for expensive last minute train fares. The date was last tuesday and i was prepared to pair off then with Paul.

You need to realise this is not a situation of my making or that I or Labour have any control over.

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Wasting yer breath mate, ya can't put sense where there is none.:rolleyes:

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The council meeting on 30 March which had originally been scheduled to be at 7pm was moved by Councillor Britcliffe to 1pm, because he wanted to attend a drama presentation that his daughter was appearing in. Whilst I can understand and appreciate that Peter wanted to support his daughter he could have moved the meeting to another evening which would have enabled all councillors to attend the meeting.

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Eh? Surely one person on the council cannot make such an executive decision? Resceduling the meeting must surely have gone to a vote.

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Unfortunately one person does make the executive decisions. You don't expect Hyndburn Council to be a democracy do you? :rolleyes:

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OK....I can understand an executive decision being made for certain reasons but not for a motive such as this. Was it made clear at the time? Did the press pick up on it? (I don't remember reading 'owt).

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I realise it's not a situation of your making. You openly state that you want to claim expenses outside of your job as an MP though.. against the IPSA rules.. already.

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You're on dangerous ground there, Andrew. There would have been no need for all this to-ing and fro-ing if Hyndburn Council was run in a democratic way and meetings were held at reasonable times on the day they were originally scheduled.

This is probably going to rock your world, but no one outside of Oswaldtwistle would vote freely for Cllr Britcliffe to become leader of the council and all the Tories have been whipped to support him.

Just remind me how a democracy works again?

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Not sure why I'm the one on dangerous ground. I've never defended the decision to change dates. What I pointed out was an MP willing to break the expenses rules days after he was elected and advertising it in the Observer.

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You'll have to direct me to that because I don't recall reading it.

The Observer also reported that Graham was elected as Greg Pope's predecessor, so possibly things aren't so black and white.

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Not sure what it has to do with being Greg Pope's predecessor?

The link is Leader accused of opportunism over accident - Accrington Observer

He said: "I arranged with the Commons whips that I wouldn’t go down to London because of the meeting. It will now cost the taxpayer, because if I have to come back up and down it will cost £250 for the second class train fare."

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Well It wasn't between 1986 and 1999 :rolleyes:

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Which Council Leader put him in that position?

If this is your idea of a good way to run a borough then I wouldn't give a groat for any political studies qualifications you might have.

All council meetings should be at 7pm. The End.

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Ken, again, I haven't defended the changing of times. I simply mentioned that Graham was willing to break the expenses rules.

The rules state and rightly so: "7.2 Members may claim Travel and Subsistence Expenses for journeys which are necessary for the performance of their parliamentary functions".

Graham's second job is not apart of his parliamentary functions. I'm also not sure why he's paying £250 for a ticket.

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Last minute tickets are very expensive and Graham is still both a councillor and a county councillor so it may well be that it would be claimed under one of those positions. I haven't spoken to him about this point specifically so I could be completely wrong but you could always ask him yourself?

I might offer up the advice never to believe everything you read in the papers, hence the quote about Graham being elected as Greg Pope's predecessor.

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Perhaps if you had mentioned it in it's own thread it would have some validity, but to use it as you did in an attempt at diverting the attention from one 'shocking' fact by inserting another 'shocking' fact, just shows you to be Tory right or wrong, and as usual you are so wrong.

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Don't treat us as stupid on here, Andrew, a child could see through your pathetic little machinations. It's obvious you're creating a smokescreen in a futile attempt to draw attention away from the changing of the meeting times. An elementary political ruse and one that you obviously haven't got the hang of yet! :rolleyes:

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Well he was quoted in the paper and didn't say he was misquoted when he replied here. He shouldn't claim for it on his other jobs either. He is a district and county councillor for Hyndburn. I don't see why the people of Hyndburn should pay his rail travel from London.

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The people of Hyndburn do not want Peter Britcliffe in charge of Hyndburn Council but unfortunately they're rather stuck with the situation, at least until Wednesday.

Your precious Tory party in Hyndburn are headed by a man who has forced an awkward situation upon the whole council in an effort to save his skin as Leader.

Post what you like on this forum or any other to try and get away from the primary point of this thread, but the fact remains that Wednesday's AGM has been moved around purely to satisfy the vanity of one man who you would hold him up as a shining example of a Hyndburn councillor.

I don't know what has led you to believe that a dictator is best for the borough but as soon as you start paying full taxes and see just what goes on with your money you might want to take a step back.

Try living in Rishton, Spring Hill or Huncoat and see how revered Cllr Britcliffe is in those wards.

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They don't.

Along with everything else, he must have lost the book we bought him, before he got the chance to read it.

How to Win Friends and Influence People: Amazon.co.uk: Dale Carnegie: Books

:rolleyes: