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cashman 19-11-2010 12:23
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 862629)
Mind you I think your right, he should have sacked him then reappointed him like blair did with Mandy 3 times, Blunket twice:rolleyes: and still put up with gaff a week Two Jags saying well John's John isn't he;)
Don't disagree, but then two wrongs don't make a right in my world.:D

DaveinGermany 19-11-2010 14:47
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The guy was out of line, he was pulled up & has now quit. There I think you see a fundamental difference between him & other Politicians/representatives who've also screwed up but fought tooth & nail to remain in place.

'Never had it so good' Tory quits after rebuke - UK Politics, UK - The Independent

Barrie Yates 19-11-2010 15:45
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 862625)
well now thatchers old poodle lord young has spoke out, "we never had it so good", cameron has virtually proved he thinks the same by not sacking him immediately, it shows what the mega-rich tories think, whilst the ordinary tory voter, follows naively along thinking good ole conservatives, but never mind lads Labours to blame.:rolleyes:
I believe he fell on his sword - unfortunately the Blair/Brown cronies did not have that decency;):)

cashman 19-11-2010 16:34
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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 862685)
I believe he fell on his sword - unfortunately the Blair/Brown cronies did not have that decency;):)
Don't take much imagination to reckon twas through pressure from D.C. cos he didn't have the balls to sack him?;)

accyman 19-11-2010 17:54
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cameron probably agrees with him but cant afford even more bad opinions of him so distanced himself and ordered him to quit.

quite surprised he didnt send clegg to mop up the mess , he must have been busy cleaning number 10's loo

jaysay 19-11-2010 18:01
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 862636)
If you really do have to bore the pants off everybody at least don't bring something up that was raised only 3 posts prior to yours:D

Less 19-11-2010 18:10
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 862731)
If you really do have to bore the pants off everybody at least don't bring something up that was raised only 3 posts prior to yours:D
And yet you seem to think your daily quote of '13 years of Labour misrule',
is fresh off the press?

Good Grief!

:eek:

andrewb 19-11-2010 18:19
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 862325)
george osborne says britain will help ireland anyway it can .in what way can britain help ireland:confused: is this admission that labour was right to prop up the british economy and actually saved bilions of pounds of tax payers money. ater all this was caused by a worldwide recession;)
Well.. the Irish economy is in rather different circumstances to ours.

If you remember at the time, the Conservatives and Labour agreed that the banks needed saving. Labour have however cost us billions of pounds by overspending before the recession even hit. Now we're spending hundreds of millions a week paying interest to bankers on all the debt the last Government left the new Government.

jaysay 19-11-2010 18:21
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 862738)
And yet you seem to think your daily quote of '13 years of Labour misrule',
is fresh off the press?

Good Grief!

:eek:
I only keep remind Clr Moss Less;)

jaysay 19-11-2010 18:24
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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 862744)
Well.. the Irish economy is in rather different circumstances to ours.

If you remember at the time, the Conservatives and Labour agreed that the banks needed saving. Labour have however cost us billions of pounds by overspending before the recession even hit. Now we're spending hundreds of millions a week paying interest to bankers on all the debt the last Government left the new Government.
£42 Billion a year Andrew to be precise, thats more than the defence budget

JCB 20-11-2010 10:13
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 862622)
Ya As Denis Healey, they wouldn't lend him any in the late seventies to help clear up Labour's last mess
Now , how was I 100% certain you would mention Denis Healey when I posted that quote ? ;)

I've checked up on it , and from October to December 1976 Denis Healy was negotiating with the IMF . He succeeded in getting a loan of $3.9 billion .
Sorry I can't put the link to the article , but I haven't got the knack of doing it yet .

cmonstanley 20-11-2010 10:55
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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 862744)
Well.. the Irish economy is in rather different circumstances to ours.

If you remember at the time, the Conservatives and Labour agreed that the banks needed saving. Labour have however cost us billions of pounds by overspending before the recession even hit. Now we're spending hundreds of millions a week paying interest to bankers on all the debt the last Government left the new Government.
dont make me laugh overspending, trying to put right what thatcher and major destroyed and poverty they created. tories squandered money with selling off the family jewells labour spent money investing in britain and the person who has cost britain was john major who signed the maastrich agreement im still laughing you actually believe the murdoch press without investigating the facts.

Barrie Yates 20-11-2010 13:01
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 862866)
dont make me laugh overspending, trying to put right what thatcher and major destroyed and poverty they created. tories squandered money with selling off the family jewells labour spent money investing in britain and the person who has cost britain was john major who signed the maastrich agreement im still laughing you actually believe the murdoch press without investigating the facts.
This thread started out as - "the tories cant blame labour now".
So, it appears to me that even though the Tories are not allowed to blame Labour, it is perfectly alright for Labour (you) to blame the Tories, even after 13 years. Maggie may have stopped school milk and broke the Unions and Major may have signed Maastrich, however, they did not give away our gold reserves or take us into two unjustified wars - Labour did that.

jaysay 20-11-2010 14:13
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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 862855)
Now , how was I 100% certain you would mention Denis Healey when I posted that quote ? ;)

I've checked up on it , and from October to December 1976 Denis Healy was negotiating with the IMF . He succeeded in getting a loan of $3.9 billion .
Sorry I can't put the link to the article , but I haven't got the knack of doing it yet .
He also went to the IMF again in 1978 and was turned down flat, fact and told to put his own house in order;)

jaysay 20-11-2010 14:16
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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 862893)
This thread started out as - "the tories cant blame labour now".
So, it appears to me that even though the Tories are not allowed to blame Labour, it is perfectly alright for Labour (you) to blame the Tories, even after 13 years. Maggie may have stopped school milk and broke the Unions and Major may have signed Maastrich, however, they did not give away our gold reserves or take us into two unjustified wars - Labour did that.
And lets not forget that when Brown signed the Lisbon treaty without the promised referendum, it cancelled the Maastricht treaty


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