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cmonstanley 20-11-2010 20:47

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doesnt matter if weve made friends with russia all it takes is a change of leadership and were back to the beginning .we still need the nimrods for strategical reasons half the nuclear submarine fleet and hunterston nuclear power station is in the region all it takes is an air strike or terrorist attack and were gone.complacency thats all it takes.

DaveinGermany 20-11-2010 21:02

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Nimrod is to be replaced by the Boeing RC-135 & UAV's like "Predator" & "Watchkeeper" will be used as they are more cost effective & deployable.

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/watchkeeper/

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/predator/

Mancie 20-11-2010 21:23

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Due to the tory cuts here is a photo of the new missile defence for Britian..

http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/bp-homepage-tab-04.jpg

yerself 20-11-2010 22:00

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Due to Labour's nuclear disarmament policy here is a photo of the new missile defence for Britain.:D

http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/bp-homepage-tab-04.jpg

garinda 20-11-2010 22:03

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I think that is a German launch pad.

:D

cmonstanley 20-11-2010 22:15

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 863112)
Nimrod is to be replaced by the Boeing RC-135 & UAV's like "Predator" & "Watchkeeper" will be used as they are more cost effective & deployable.

Watchkeeper Tactical UAV System - Army Technology

Predator RQ-1 / MQ-1 / MQ-9 Reaper - Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) - Air Force Technology

mmm already cost £3 billion another political decision;) RAF Kinloss: Scrapped replacement for Nimrod 'largely completed' - Scotsman.com News

jaysay 21-11-2010 08:07

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 863127)
mmm already cost £3 billion another political decision;) RAF Kinloss: Scrapped replacement for Nimrod 'largely completed' - Scotsman.com News

Another instance of Labour throwing money down the toilet when there are cheaper and more effective options

cmonstanley 21-11-2010 08:46

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more like a political decision, another thought just came to me if tories and business men think this BBC News - Theo Paphitis defends Lord Young's recession comments it must mean that they are admitting labour were doing something right ;)

jaysay 21-11-2010 08:50

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 863173)
more like a political decision, another thought just came to me if tories and business men think this BBC News - Theo Paphitis defends Lord Young's recession comments it must mean that they are admitting labour were doing something right ;)

Believe me CS if Labour do out right its a total accident:D

jaysay 21-11-2010 08:53

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 863173)
more like a political decision, another thought just came to me if tories and business men think this BBC News - Theo Paphitis defends Lord Young's recession comments it must mean that they are admitting labour were doing something right ;)

The fact that interest rates are still only 0.5% is down to the Bank of England nout to do with Brown and Co. but maybe just maybe if Brown hadn't scrapped the Banking regs in the first place things wouldn't have been half as bad as they are

Barrie Yates 21-11-2010 10:39

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 863157)
Another instance of Labour throwing money down the toilet when there are cheaper and more effective options

CS, did you criticise the Govt of the day when the TSR2 was scrapped. This was arguably the best aircraft of the time and for many years to come. They really did scrap it - even breaking up the finished aircraft (although I understand one example still exists), they even broke up the jigs and molds so that it would be too expensive to re-start the project - how many jobs were lost at BAe because of that decision?:rolleyes:

DaveinGermany 21-11-2010 10:43

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 863127)
mmm already cost £3 billion another political decision;) RAF Kinloss: Scrapped replacement for Nimrod 'largely completed' - Scotsman.com News

Hands up, I'd not seen this, that truly is a disgusting waste of tax payers money. They should have at least finished the aircraft & got some service out of them to justify their cost to the public purse. In this case it really is a bad call by the Coalition Government.

cmonstanley 21-11-2010 10:58

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 863198)
CS, did you criticise the Govt of the day when the TSR2 was scrapped. This was arguably the best aircraft of the time and for many years to come. They really did scrap it - even breaking up the finished aircraft (although I understand one example still exists), they even broke up the jigs and molds so that it would be too expensive to re-start the project - how many jobs were lost at BAe because of that decision?:rolleyes:

quite interesting about the politics and division in them days as well BAC TSR-2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

jaysay 21-11-2010 12:10

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 863198)
CS, did you criticise the Govt of the day when the TSR2 was scrapped. This was arguably the best aircraft of the time and for many years to come. They really did scrap it - even breaking up the finished aircraft (although I understand one example still exists), they even broke up the jigs and molds so that it would be too expensive to re-start the project - how many jobs were lost at BAe because of that decision?:rolleyes:

Twas a bit before my time Barrie don't really know much about it, I've just had a look on Wici, now my interests have been raised I'll have another look when I get a bit of spare time, but not on footy day:D

Barrie Yates 21-11-2010 12:27

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 863199)
Hands up, I'd not seen this, that truly is a disgusting waste of tax payers money. They should have at least finished the aircraft & got some service out of them to justify their cost to the public purse. In this case it really is a bad call by the Coalition Government.

To bring them into, and maintain them, in service would have cost far more money than the original cost.
Specialist support at all levels, training costs of all those support specialists, servicing equipment, spares - the support costs would be astronomical. Some courses (full time), could last for over a year - imagine the cost of that.


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