Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 968430)

I have already posted what my thoughts are on this subject.

I see the usual typical sniping is going on.

Garinda can I ask where you helped these 100s of heroin addicts.

Most peoples first drug wouldn't be Heroin, as they will probably be young when they try there first substance and wouldn't have the contacts.

You could class Alcohol as a gateway drug, a lot of the young people I know tried there first drugs E / Speed / Coke, Ect whilst out clubbing. But Alcohol is good??

As for this take LSD and think you can fly rubbish, where does this information come from. (Urban Myth).

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 968433)

The article says the Police "think" he had taken LSD! Think is not know! He may have taken LSD and mixed it with other stuff - if they don't know for sure it could have been Angel Dust or some other substance!

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 968435)

I went out with a French girl who was a heroin addict I tried it twice

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 968435)

I went out with a French girl who was a heroin addict I tried it twice and never did it again! It made me vomit and then I felt I was lying on cotton wool for a few hours and really happy! But I did not become addicted! Someone I know was a crack user I tried that a couple of times and thought it was rubbish! Not everyone who smokes a bit of pot ends up a hardcore junkie! I think there are other issues at play, perhaps genetic predisposition, social/family problems!

How many people beat up their wives or a family member or visa versa on alcohol? Thousands!

There are around 3,000 incidents of serious injury or death from drunk driving per annum in the UK.

Finally the most well known incident of someone jumping out of a window on LSD was in the 1950's when the CIA (US Government service) dosed a doctor with LSD, with out his knowledge and he jumped out of a window to his death!

That's a fact not fiction.

Frank Olson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 968433)

The article says the Police "think" he had taken LSD! Think is not know! He may have taken LSD and mixed it with other stuff - if they don't know for sure it could have been Angel Dust or some other substance!

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 968437)

Well that comes as no suprise.

You do come across as rather dim.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 968438)

Still struggling with the memory loss?

You informed everyone you weren't posting again, as well as leaving the forum.

An other ideal customer for a dealer.

Weak willed.

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 968440)

I'll try anything once (or twice);) as I've got the strength of mind to over come it! :)

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 968440)

See another personal attack, your dim mate lol - you do it on purpose! As it happens she was very fit and I only found out afterwards! I'll try anything once (or twice) as I've got the strength of mind to over come it! :)

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 968441)

I just noticed people had posted some more comments not in your favour and I wanted to give them some support.

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 968359)

There appears to be a strong body of opinion expressed here that holds that all controlled substances are bad and should be shunned as tools of the Devil and a danger to the young and impressionable. It is hard not to concurr. But in the interest of fairness I think it should be pointed out that the issue here is the abuse of substances rather than the use of substances per se.

Abuse typically occurrs when a substance is used either to excess or in ways other than originally intended.

There is a large and growing body of evidence to suggest that Controlled substances of whatever class have good, positive and life saving properties when used in the correct context and under supervision. MDMA (Ecstacy) is finding increasing use in the treatment of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, LSD is more effective at treating the problems of Alcohol withdrawal than standard therapies. THC, the active ingredient in Cannabis is used to combat the pain associated with degenerative conditions such as Arthritis with none of the noxious side effects of anti-inflamatory drug regimes. The analgesic properties of Cocaine and its derivatives have long been known and made use of in dentristry, among other branches of medicine.

What is not addressed by this discussion, or any other discussion I have heard over the last forty years, is why our young are so attracted to court the obvious dangers of substance abuse? Why are they so impelled to seek temporary release from everyday life? What is it about the qualities of our society that they find so oppressive or restrictive that they are prepared to spend large sums of money in funding criminal enterprise for a period of respite or escape?

How have we failed our young?

And, if so many of them are so affected, often at the risk of their health and lives, what are we going to do about changing our society to make such substance abuse unecessary?

It strikes me that in reaching for the 'BANNED' stamp, we are dodging the real issues.


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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 968447)

So you don't do what you say?

No back-bone.

Weak.

Ideal target for the pushers.

It's all starting to make sense.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 968443)

I presume the few numpties we have on here, who support the consumption of these narcotics, would happily give them to their young teenage children?

Just as long as they'd come from a 'good' dealer.

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 968450)

ha ha ha! Same old same old! Personal attacks are a sign you are losing the argument! :D