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***Mr D*** 13-02-2012 12:55

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 969893)
So that's good news then!
All the people high on ecstacy and cannabis won't be drinking, all the people high on alcohol won't be taking ecstacy or cannabis!
But one way or another we'll all be happy.
What a comforting picture of the possible future you paint, assuming you get your way.

I found that Alcohol is more of a gateway to Ecstasy than anything else.

Legal or illegal, drugs can kill.

Its down to Use or Abuse.

kestrelx 13-02-2012 14:59

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 970062)
I found that Alcohol is more of a gateway to Ecstasy than anything else.

Legal or illegal, drugs can kill.

Its down to Use or Abuse.

Mmm :confused: Well its accepted knowledge alcohol counteracts ecstasy and stops it's effects! :rolleyes:

The Great Alexander Shulgin Talks About MDMA-(Ecstasy) - YouTube

cashman 13-02-2012 15:08

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 970079)
Mmm :confused: Well its accepted knowledge alcohol counteracts ecstasy and stops it's effects! :rolleyes:

The Great Alexander Shulgin Talks About MDMA-(Ecstasy) - YouTube

Accepted by nutters like you, the guy has taken drugs all his life.:rolleyes:

walkinman221 13-02-2012 16:51

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 970079)
Mmm :confused: Well its accepted knowledge alcohol counteracts ecstasy and stops it's effects! :rolleyes:

The Great Alexander Shulgin Talks About MDMA-(Ecstasy) - YouTube

Give him a bell maybe you could take a trip together, if you can't see the dangers of drug use or abuse maybe your past usage has affected you more than you think:rolleyes::rolleyes:

jaysay 13-02-2012 17:46

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 970095)
Give him a bell maybe you could take a trip together, if you can't see the dangers of drug use or abuse maybe your past usage has affected you more than you think:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Maybe WM I'd say its a racing cert;)

***Mr D*** 14-02-2012 12:39

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 970079)
Mmm :confused: Well its accepted knowledge alcohol counteracts ecstasy and stops it's effects! :rolleyes:

The Great Alexander Shulgin Talks About MDMA-(Ecstasy) - YouTube

Accepted Knowledge by who?

Alcohol doesn't stop the effects of E, you will find most people who take E will do so on a night out after having a few drinks, it defiantly does not stop its effects.

kestrelx 14-02-2012 17:09

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 969906)
Well Whitney Houston died yesterday, there's a good advert for anti drug use.

Well according to todays Daily Mirror (don't always believe this as fact!) she was taking these prescription medications at time of her death...

Lorazepam - used for anxiety!

Valium - used for anxiety!

Xanax - for panic attacks!

Ibuprofen - pain killer!

Midol - Menstrual cramp treatment!

Amoxicillin - antibiotic for sore throat.

All prescription drugs + alchohol which is legal. :cool:

kestrelx 14-02-2012 17:14

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 970246)
Accepted Knowledge by who?

Alcohol doesn't stop the effects of E, you will find most people who take E will do so on a night out after having a few drinks, it defiantly does not stop its effects.

The E they sell these days isn't MDMA a lot of it is mixed; Ketamine, Amphetamines, other crap. Pure MDMA is cancelled by alchohol - maybe not a few sips, but heavy drinking will null it!

kestrelx 14-02-2012 17:16

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 970081)
Accepted by nutters like you, the guy has taken drugs all his life.:rolleyes:

ha ha ha! I havn't taken drugs all my life mate - U nutter! ;)

walkinman221 14-02-2012 17:29

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Whats your point ? I don't think anybody has differentiated between prescription(legal) drugs and recreational (illegal) drugs, they are all dangerous if misused, fact.Your original statement was that we should legalise illegal drugs, what would that acheive? You would still have drug addicts committing crime to fund their habit or are you suggesting that we the tax payer should fund fully,the habits of drug addicts? Also prescription drugs have been tested and are made to a standard recipe , not thrown together by some back street chemist or some old hippy. Drugs such as cocaine , heroin, crack etc ARE highly addictive and dangerous and cause many problems on a social level as does alcohol, i must admit,but often the two are abused together.Just because you think you have come through your own drug experiences without damage does not mean everyone will be so lucky. You need to get a grip and accept it will never happen.

kestrelx 14-02-2012 17:32

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 970299)
Whats your point ? I don't think anybody has differentiated between prescription(legal) drugs and recreational (illegal) drugs, they are all dangerous if misused, fact.Your original statement was that we should legalise illegal drugs, what would that acheive? You would still have drug addicts committing crime to fund their habit or are you suggesting that we the tax payer should fund fully,the habits of drug addicts? Also prescription drugs have been tested and are made to a standard recipe , not thrown together by some back street chemist or some old hippy. Drugs such as cocaine , heroin, crack etc ARE highly addictive and dangerous and cause many problems on a social level as does alcohol, i must admit,but often the two are abused together.Just because you think you have come through your own drug experiences without damage does not mean everyone will be so lucky. You need to get a grip and accept it will never happen.

Some one can go out and buy 2 litres vodka, knock it back in one shot and that's legal!

Why can't I buy some cannabis as an adult and smoke or imbibe it in my flat legally? :confused::D

jaysay 14-02-2012 17:34

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 970299)
Whats your point ? I don't think anybody has differentiated between prescription(legal) drugs and recreational (illegal) drugs, they are all dangerous if misused, fact.Your original statement was that we should legalise illegal drugs, what would that acheive? You would still have drug addicts committing crime to fund their habit or are you suggesting that we the tax payer should fund fully,the habits of drug addicts? Also prescription drugs have been tested and are made to a standard recipe , not thrown together by some back street chemist or some old hippy. Drugs such as cocaine , heroin, crack etc ARE highly addictive and dangerous and cause many problems on a social level as does alcohol, i must admit,but often the two are abused together.Just because you think you have come through your own drug experiences without damage does not mean everyone will be so lucky. You need to get a grip and accept it will never happen.

That seems to sum it up perfectly Dave

jaysay 14-02-2012 17:37

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 970300)
Some one can go out and buy 2 litres vodka, knock it back in one shot and that's legal!

Why can't I buy some cannabis as an adult and smoke or imbibe it in my flat legally? :confused::D

Cuz then there would be numpties wandering round like you all day long;)

Less 14-02-2012 17:43

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 970300)
Some one can go out and buy 2 litres vodka, knock it back in one shot and that's legal!

Why can't I buy some cannabis as an adult and smoke or imbibe it in my flat legally? :confused::D

Why would you want to?

According to yet another of your mind bent posts, you've never used the stuff!

Well, I have, canabliss, I was young then I became old,

I've already stated if it was legalised, I'd use it.

But, I wouldn't encourage anyone else to use it.

Now shut up before you make a fool of yourself,

Oh Dear, too late...

So live with it plonker.

MargaretR 14-02-2012 17:57

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I regard all synthetic substances as toxic.
How fast you die, and what you die from, depends on whether you follow 'prescribed use' or 'Abuse'.

I know some people consider their life depends on them. I consider they have just chosen an alternative way to die, and more slowly. I respect their right to choose that option.

Ten years ago I was in daily continuous pain and took high strength prescription drugs to control it, and I got addicted.

I weaned myself off them, and began tackling the cause of my pain instead of masking it. A few detox procedures later I was pain free.

I know this won't work for everybody. I just wish to point out that to blindly accept that prescription drugs are the only solution to your problem is not in your best interests.


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