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garinda 27-02-2012 15:01
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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 973225)
From about 1800 to 1985 a highly powerful hallucinogenic -datura strammonium - was used in Asthma treatment medication. In special cigarettes and also as a form of tea in which the fumes were inhaled, but if taken as tea and the liquid drank would cause serious mind warping effects - I wonder if Lewis Carroll used this stuff as it was commonly available and would give serious hallucinations. In those days was viewed as a mere homeopathic remedy!!! :eek:
Hardluck Asthma: 1800-1985: Asthma Cigarettes

As far as me losing the argument is concerned; all I hear from you lot is personal attacks and not a jott of decent evidence apart from "knee jerk" reactions! :D
Though it is quite amusing.

Playing the victim.

Since you were stupid enough to publicly post threats of Actual Bodily Harm, against members of this forum.

annesingleton 27-02-2012 17:35
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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 973225)
As far as me losing the argument is concerned; all I hear from you lot is personal attacks and not a jott of decent evidence apart from "knee jerk" reactions! :D
I don't think that is a very fair comment, there have been some very decent responses with good evidence - and speaking for myself I personally don't think that that I have launched a personal attack on you - it would be very difficult since I have no idea who you really are! Do you think it would be fair to say that you have also made personal remarks to other people who haven't agreed with you?
The thing is that you have a fixed set of beliefs on this subject, whilst others have opposing views - neither side are likely to be swayed.

jaysay 27-02-2012 18:26
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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 973184)
I am surprised that you don't get pain relief on free prescription (over 60 as you are).

Several years ago I was on 8 distalgesics a day.(free)
They removed them from the prescribed list after they were used by Dr Kelly to suicide (allegedly).:rolleyes:

They were replaced by a codiene/paracetemol combination (free)

When I got addicted to codiene and told doc I wanted paracetemol only he supplied it free without question.

I eventually stopped using that too.
Whatever I was on, I got a months supply at a time to accommodate the max daily dose.
I do get pain relief on prescription and have done for many years Margaret, I suppose I could get paracetamol as well, but its something I've always bought, so haven't bothered. I use them in conjunction with DF118s and thankfully they keep me relatively pain free, by that I mean its just a discomfort more than a pain now

jaysay 27-02-2012 18:32
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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 973225)
From about 1800 to 1985 a highly powerful hallucinogenic -datura stramonium - was used in Asthma treatment medication. In special cigarettes and also as a form of tea in which the fumes were inhaled, but if taken as tea and the liquid drank would cause serious mind warping effects - I wonder if Lewis Carroll used this stuff as it was commonly available and would give serious hallucinations. In those days was viewed as a mere homeopathic remedy!!! :eek:
Hardluck Asthma: 1800-1985: Asthma Cigarettes

As far as me losing the argument is concerned; all I hear from you lot is personal attacks and not a lot of decent evidence apart from "knee jerk" reactions! :D
Hell am I glad that things have moved on, Asthma Fags, those Yanks sure as hell had strange ways, mind you one promoter of the fags was Dr Batty, says it all really:rolleyes:

kestrelx 29-02-2012 19:54
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 973268)
As you've stated on here that you took heroin recreationally, should that be made legal?

As for personal attacks.

Since no one know's you from Adam, and the only information that's known about you, are things you've chosen to have made public, any 'attacks' are carried out with the rod you've made for your own spineless back.
Your posts have always been antagonistic - you do it on purpose and I consider you to be a Troll - that is someone who makes statements to antagonise another. Any threats I made were because you kept bringing up my brother and his actions which had nothing to do with me. It's obvious you did it for the reasons "Trolls" operate to provoke a reaction.

The attacks against me have been that my brain is addled by drugs and therefore my argument is not valid.

I have told you that not everyone who tries drugs becomes an addict - something you refuse to accept.

garinda 29-02-2012 19:59
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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 973975)
Your posts have always been antagonistic - you do it on purpose and I consider you to be a Troll - that is someone who makes statements to antagonise another. Any threats I made were because you kept bringing up my brother and his actions which had nothing to do with me. It's obvious you did it for the reasons "Trolls" operate to provoke a reaction.

The attacks against me have been that my brain is addled by drugs and therefore my argument is not valid.

I have told you that not everyone who tries drugs becomes an addict - something you refuse to accept.
It's really very simple.

Or should be.

You've publicly stated you've taken heroin 'recreationally'.

Should it be legalised, for everyone to take recreationally?

garinda 29-02-2012 20:55
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 973977)
It's really very simple.

Or should be.

You've publicly stated you've taken heroin 'recreationally'.

Should it be legalised, for everyone to take recreationally?
Yes?

No?

Too difficult a question to answer?

kestrelx 29-02-2012 23:21
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I've just done a search and it appears the Monkee's were involved in the drugs scene of the 60's in LA! i.e LSD - cannabis - cocaine!

How Does it Feel to Be One of the BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE?

kestrelx 29-02-2012 23:33
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 973995)
Yes?

No?

Too difficult a question to answer?
No I don't think it should at the moment!

garinda 29-02-2012 23:51
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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 974033)
No I don't think it should.
Why not?

What makes heroin different from other drugs, that you, and other people take for their own pleasure?

What currently illegal drugs should be decriminalised, and made readily available to all, for 'recreational' use?

You haven't made your stance very clear.

You've mentioned some of the illegal drugs you've taken recreationally.

Which should, and which shouldn't be freely available for all?

Perhaps you'd better make a list.

To make yourself properly understood.

jaysay 01-03-2012 08:56
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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 974032)
I've just done a search and it appears the Monkee's were involved in the drugs scene of the 60's in LA! i.e LSD - cannabis - cocaine!

How Does it Feel to Be One of the BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE?
So did Jimi Hendrix, Janice Joplin, Brian Jones it sure as hell was a great career booster for them wasn't it :rolleyes:

cashman 01-03-2012 09:34
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No I don't think it should at the moment!
At what moment should it be?

Northern Monkey 01-03-2012 13:06
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 973977)
It's really very simple.

Or should be.

You've publicly stated you've taken heroin 'recreationally'.

Should it be legalised, for everyone to take recreationally?
Heroin in it's purest form doesn't damage the body. It's all the additives that are used to bulk it out etc that make it as harmful as it is. It might mentally cause harm - but not physically.

More people a year die from alcohol & tobacco than all other drugs combined.

cashman 01-03-2012 13:09
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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 974112)

More people a year die from alcohol & tobacco than all other drugs combined.
Which is what to do wi legalising illegal drugs?

Northern Monkey 01-03-2012 13:16
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Supposed to be edited out. Wrote more - but couldn't be bothered elaborating on it.


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