Originally Posted by garinda (Post 882423)

'People love to party and the Royal Wedding of William and Kate provides a great opportunity for a good old "knees up". We are planning a whole host of events here in Hyndburn and also want to make it as easy as possible for local people to celebrate this historic event in your own way including staging your own street party. Ideas are very much at the early stages, but we'd like to have our very our own Hyndburn Royal Wedding festival over the Easter weekend starting on Friday 22 April, taking in St George's day on Monday 25 April and then over the following weekend starting on the big day itself 29 April and running until the May Day Bank Holiday on Mon 2 May. Watch the Observer for more news as ideas are firmed up.'
Leaders Viewpoint February 2011

Is this wedding important enough to you, that you're happy that tax payers' money will be spent celebrating the event here in Hyndburn?

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 882405)

I suspect, if pushed, most folks would wish them well, after so many disastrous marriages in that particular family.

As for civic celebrations, the days of referential joy at occasions such as this, have long past.

Anyone interested will watch the box at home, or look at pictures of the nuptials in Hello, or Heat.

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 882542)

I always thought st georges day was the 23rd April ....

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 882556)

Right on ... and it is also the date of Shakespeare's death, and possibly his birth. Maybe the Leader of Hyndburn Council could read something appropriate from the Bard:rolleyes:. Or battle a dragon.:D

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 882556)

Maybe the Leader of Hyndburn Council could read something appropriate from the Bard:rolleyes:. Or battle a dragon.:D

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 882560)

According to the Observer, though it's not on their website yet, there are plans that a 'recycled' dragon will be slayed, by some thespians from the Ossy Players.

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 882556)

Maybe the Leader of Hyndburn Council could read something appropriate from the Bard:rolleyes:. Or battle a dragon.:D

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 882566)

Wanted -
=====
Dragon.
Ossy Players.
Open audition.




There'll be fights to secure this prestigious role.

:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 882573)

Can we nominate someone we think suitable?
And if so, will husbands be free from prosecution/persecution? Or will the normal law of the land apply?

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 882575)

Yes, but remember it is a challenging role.

The dragon has to lose.

;)

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 882556)

Right on ... and it is also the date of Shakespeare's death, and possibly his birth. Maybe the Leader of Hyndburn Council could read something appropriate from the Bard:rolleyes:. Or battle a dragon.:D

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 882561)

In honour of the new lavatorial arrangements in the town centre....

"To pee or not to pee. That is the question!"

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 882560)

According to the Observer, though it's not on their website yet, there are plans that a 'recycled' dragon will be slayed, by some thespians from the Ossy Players.

Originally Posted by katex (Post 882629)

Yes, spotted that ... will be querying it .. has not been brought up in front of the committee of which I am a member :confused: Perhaps not reported quite correctly. Possibly Sparks, the junior side, but all under one umbrella.

Anyway, I have voted YES. :p

Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 882637)

A big fat no from me, and apologies but I just had a rant about this in the Market hall thread!

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 882590)

It is an ideal time to book a flight abroad I found - there are more incoming tourists so outward (the return) flights are plentiful.

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 882590)

It is an ideal time to book a flight abroad I found - there are more incoming tourists so outward (the return) flights are plentiful.

I spent silver jubilee day in Venice. Sadly I find long distance travel too exhausting now, but if I don't switch on the TV or radio I can avoid all that over priced pomp.

Originally Posted by emamum (Post 882713)

i wont be living in hyndburn by then but i'm getting married the day after them.. wonder if i can save some money and have street party wedding reception? lol
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 882746)

Well, so far, it isn't just myself who thinks the council have misjudged Hyndburn residents' interest in this wedding.

It seems we are either disinterested, apathetic, or in some cases angry, because local taxes are being spent on celebrating the occasion.

'There will be dancing in the streets all over Hyndburn for the Royal wedding in April.'
Street parties planned for royal wedding | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk

Still, it might be a laugh, watching Tealeaf, Neil, and Katex, getting down and funky, doing a three man conga along our streets.

:rolleyes::eek::D

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 882760)

C'mon's enthusiasm for the Royal Family doubtless stems from him being a loyalist Rangers supporter. They're big on that sort of thing.

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 882760)

C'mon's enthusiasm for the Royal Family doubtless stems from him being a loyalist Rangers supporter. They're big on that sort of thing.

Originally Posted by Less (Post 882761)

I didn't know Tea' was a Rangers supporter.
:eek:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 882760)

C'mon's enthusiasm for the Royal Family doubtless stems from him being a loyalist Rangers supporter. They're big on that sort of thing.

Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 882947)

Gremlin you have give me an idea there. Might be a case of disappearing fishing in the middle of no where to avoid it.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 882974)

oh-oh...trouble in paradise!

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 882987)

Well, so far, we have five people who are happy with the planned celebration, and think it should be funded from the public purse.

Perhaps three of the five would like to share with us how their councils, in London, Ayrshire, and Hull, are going to celebrate this marriage, and if they as tax payers, are expected to pay for it?

:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 882989)

well none have had the balls to post, which i regard as gutless.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 882989)

well none have had the balls to post, which i regard as gutless.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 882993)

So, lots of people who voted 'no' haven't posted either.... :p
At least the conga line is getting a little longer ... :D
We'll just hop-a-long regardless:

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 882994)

i am also wary of secret ballots fer the same reason, dont think the conga line is getting longer though kate, doubt very much if they will travel here to join it.:D though i agree anyone who dont post on a local site whichever way they vote is gutless in my eyes.:p

Originally Posted by katex (Post 882999)

They have already posted by voting, Cashy .. not like it's secret .... anyone can see who has voted one way or the other.

There are quite a few people who have voted 'no' that don't live in Hyndburn too.

Originally Posted by katex (Post 882999)

There are quite a few people who have voted 'no' that don't live in Hyndburn too.

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 883002)

No.. local taxes should not be spent .. and let's get real.. this government have imposed massive cuts to council funding .. any money spent on this wedding would be put to better use keeping someones job .

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 883002)

No.. local taxes should not be spent .. and let's get real.. this government have imposed massive cuts to council funding .. any money spent on this wedding would be put to better use keeping someones job .

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883004)

Please feel free to vote.

You'll cancel out Tower Hamlet's Little Princess Tippy Toes.

;)

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 883000)

How can anyone see who? i can't. yeh must be well in wi someone.:eek:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 882989)

well none have had the balls to post, which i regard as gutless.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 883037)

Think Kate would have big problems in that department cashy:D

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883039)

I think Cashy's referring to those who voted that HBC should spend money on this wedding celebration, who don't live in the borough, but who haven't posted why. Which of course is their right. Though it would be interesting to know their reasoning.

Originally Posted by katex (Post 882999)

They have already posted by voting, Cashy .. not like it's secret .... anyone can see who has voted one way or the other.

There are quite a few people who have voted 'no' that don't live in Hyndburn too.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 883059)

well 6 have voted YES now, strange how only 2 of em live here n have to pay fer it.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 883069)

Well, the reason I voted is that, although I no longer live in the area, I still regard myself as an Accy lad and I care very much about what happens to the town and, its surroundings.

Incidentally, the reason why I didn't post my views originally was because it's a no-brainer - obviously it's sheer folly to squander public money on Royal Weddings when basics like public toilets are being closed down - and I assumed that the few who voted in favour were being tongue-in-cheek or just wanted to be controversial.

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 883069)

I still regard myself as an Accy lad

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883073)

Not having a go at anyone.

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 883076)

I know you're not, Gary. I just didn't want anyone to think I was wimping out by not posting my views originally.

I may be a lot of things, but I'm not mealy-mouthed...unlike a lot of political posters on this forum. ;)

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883078)

Yes, it seems our councillors have no views one way or the other, on how council taxes are being planned to be spent, marking the occasion of Wills taking Kate up the aisle.

:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883075)

your childhood bezzy.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 883082)

Par fer the coarse, then they scratch heads as to why so few vote these days.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 883094)

For what it's worth Cashy, I wouldn't spend a penny on it. But it's not my decision as you well know.

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 883094)

For what it's worth Cashy, I wouldn't spend a penny on it. But it's not my decision as you well know.

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 882590)

It is an ideal time to book a flight abroad I found - there are more incoming tourists so outward (the return) flights are plentiful.

Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 882643)

I'm no Royalist and I'd rather eat my own spleen with a rusty spoon than watch that pile of pants. ( But I'll take the day off though, thank you very much!)

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 882998)

Some rude, judgemental people, might well say that some other people obviously have more money than sense.


;)

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 883060)

OK, Kate, I voted no because at a time of massive cuts in local government spending, to waste money on fripperies like this is farcical and an insult to cash-strapped council taxpayers, just as flashdance happenings and Victorian swimming on Broadway and all the other pseudo-artistic junk that has been inflicted on the town recently is.

Plain enough for you, Kate? :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 883167)

This is not quite true, Margaret, paradoxically, it is working the other way. Thos. Cook are doing extremely well with their bookings of people wishing to get away from these celebrations, which more than makes up for their cancelled bookings to Tunisia and Egypt.



Perhaps we should have let people who are so concerned about councils spending money on such events, vote to work that day then .. would have been more of a statement.



That's not very gentlemanly, Garinda ... bringing that up ... I did do a U-turn on my prattish remark and apologised publicly. :p



That 'eyes to heaven' emoticon should not be aimed at me. I did not express a view that, whichever way people voted, they should explain themselves.

As I am in the middle of composing a 15,000 words reply (ok exaggeration), I may consider posting it later, however, knowing that it will be subject to heavy criticism, analysis of every word and general insults I may back down.

Seems to me though, there are a couple of issues going on in the minds of people who have voted 'No', not just the economy .. just the ones that dislike the monarchy anyway, and would vote this way no matter what the question was. Also, a couple that I suspect is politically biased against our Conservative council.

For instance, even though I am not overly fond of football, I would still vote a yes to the Council backing up our Accrington Stanley, a minority pleasure for some, even in the face of this gloomy economy if they decided to do so.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 883169)

Well Kate, I can tell you now, that my 'NO' is purely from the point I have already made.......I do not dislike the Royal family, but have no wish to participate in the pseudo celebrations around the wedding(have never been much of a one for big celebrations myself...and those who know me will confirm this).....I have no political axe to grind either.
I just cannot see the point of wasting money that could be otherwise used to enhance our local standard of living.

Originally Posted by katex (Post 883175)

Obviously you are one of the ones that voted irrespective of your thoughts on the Royal Family and just that money could be spent better elsewhere, so was not aimed at you.

Ok then, first point that grabs me on this is that we do not really know what budget is allowed for these celebrations. I speculate it will be a drop in the Ocean to the cuts that are being imposed on them. I don't quite know how the accounts are set out at HBC, but suspect will be coming out of some sort of Community Project's fund that covers things like art, flower towers, Christmas decorations .. anything that brightens up our surroundings. Would you wish this budget to be put back into the General Fund then, so that there will never be any 'cheer up' factors provided by our town ? The town will look lovely with flower displays and buntings in our national colours of Red, White and Blue .. people spend more in towns when they are feeling cheeria (is that a word ?),

There will be gains... the firework display, for instance, always brings plenty of people into town with their children and, providing the shops stay open will be of benefit. I don't see that the traders would object actually ... or the shop assistants, a chance to earn some overtime money; not easily available in this economic climate.

Again, not aimed at you Margaret .. just my initial thoughts on the financial side of it all.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883179)

This thread is about whether local taxes should fund a civic celebration in Hyndburn.

Nothing else.

Whatever people's motives are for thinking it's wrong to do so, not one person has mentioned the actual cost of the wedding to us itself.

That is a totally different topic.

This poll and thread relates to the local funding costs.

Originally Posted by katex (Post 883185)

Err .. exactly. That's what I am trying to get at. But we don't know the cost as yet, but is not exactly a 'civic celebration' is it ? Am trying to get at the financial gains for this spending. However, you cannot ignore any feel good factors it brings to our town .. that is priceless.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 883187)

Only the irresponsible go out to the pictures when they can't pay their rent.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883190)

Priceless for two locals so far.

You and Neil.

The vast majority, across the board, so far as how we normally post, are against it.

If a Glee tribute band, to switch the Christmas lights on, cost six thousand quid, you can bet your aunt Fanny the proposed firework display won't consist of a tenners worth of Catherine wheels bought in the newsagents.

We know how costly organising civic events.

Who amongst us can forget the thousands that were spent on the spectacular flash mob?

Originally Posted by katex (Post 883193)

You still do not address any monies spent against monies gained though Garinda .. just focused on the outlay.

.

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 883198)

You're probably right, Im sure there will have to be at least one cafe open to rake it in ;)

Originally Posted by katex (Post 883199)

Thought you may have been busy printing out commemorative tea towels, Dave ... :D

Originally Posted by katex (Post 883193)

You still do not address any monies spent against monies gained though Garinda .. just focused on the outlay.

'Thousands' on the Flash Mob !!! ... that's increased (wasn't even local council money)...anyway stick to the issue being discussed ... as you have just so rightly mentioned.

Originally Posted by katex (Post 883193)

You still do not address any monies spent against monies gained though Garinda .. just focused on the outlay.

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 883201)

I'm not printing it until you order it :p