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Apparently many of the looters have been caught on Cctv.......so they may be getting their collars felt.

I am perplexed why an opticians would be looted....after all, those glasses on display are just frames with ordinary glass in them.......Ok the frames might be saleable, but if someone turns up to an opticians somewhere else and offers a whole load of frames, wouldn't that be a bit suss? Or am I missing a trick here?

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gum tree and ebay ;):)

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surely even gum tree and e bay buyers would be wary of an individual selling large quantities of spectacle frames with just the demo glass in them.......especially if it was from the vicinity of Tottenham.

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I watched the news this evening and behind the reporter on the scene at Tottenham there were five young people, all had a mobile phone clamped to their ear and grinning at the camera. They were probably telling their mates to watch the news on the TV they nicked from Curry's earlier.

My thought not fact.

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its kicking off in enfield now:eek:

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sooooooo....Cmon, another evening of excitement for you then.

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I hope you've got plenty of tissues handy.

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The events of last night must have been dreadful for the residents of Tottenham and it's heartbreaking.. and I mean those who actually live in Tottenham...I'd be willing to bet money that those who burnt down shops with flats above may live anywhere else in London but not in Tottenham , to be frank those who have already marked that area down as some sort of gangster ridden place full of unemployed scum know nothing.
There has been reports on local news and questions asked since the man was shot last week..and like it or not somethings don't seem to add up... rumours are that the bloke was not armed and the only shots fired were by the police....yes only rumours and the facts need to be known.
Clashes with the police are nothing new have happenend all over the country from time to time.. but the tragedy is that some people are hell bent on using tensions in communities they have nothing to with as an excuse to rob and burn.

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Mancie.......you and I have not often agreed on subjects, but I have to say that your post is enlightening, and dare I say it, refreshing.
You have said what is being said on several news sites.

These events are heart rending for the law abiding people who live in Tottenham, because they are all being tarred with the same brush...that of being feral scum.
There are people who have lost their homes and their livilihood as a result of this violent and criminal behaviour.
I would have given you Karma for that post...but I have given out too much today. You are on my list. asap.

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Same as Margaret, I agree that that's a good, and balanced post Mancie.

I resided there for a while, and there are lots of decent people living and working there. Now sadly living amongst all this carnage.

These idiots have come from all over London, in order to have some sort of thrill.

You don't defecate on your own doorstep, and then burn the house down.

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Just a link......no comment at all then cmon...lazy posting.

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The people of this area are citing high unemployment and cuts in local services for the riots.(Reuters) There is nothing about criminal behaviour...which is what the looting and arson was.
There are deprived areas all over the country, many places are having to face cuts in services...yet the people don't riot......they don't set their local amenities on fire.

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Perhaps we should introduce the 100 meters looting dash, to London 2012.

9ct gold guaranteed.

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Wasn't there a big riot in Jarrow?

In which the poor, and disadvantaged jobless, rose up, stole from the local shops, and then set the whole place ablaze?

It was a march?

Oh right.

My mistake.

:rolleyes:

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Why bother with London..don't you have an Argos in Accy? :)

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I think I heard it mentioned that they might be planning to hold the Olympics in London.

;)

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Maybe with all this unrest they might cancel it.

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without refund fer the mugs that bought tickets.:D:D

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Yep...that'd do for me....I'm dreading it!

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Come on folks , can anyone say they are really surprised , seem to remember there was a Politician who predicted this sort of stuff 30 odd yrs ago , and what happened he was villified by the multi cultual Quislings (of all political stripes) Politicians (elected leaders) National and Local have allowed ethno-centric Communitys/ghettos to be created instead of promoting integration into the national culture and now act surprised when this sort of stuff, including calls for Sharia law happens :confused: :confused:

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Steeljack ..you seem to have an insight into make up of communties in this country that we weak and feeble minded habitants can't grasp... in the language you may know.. hey why don't you tell us were we are going wrong .. lead us to the promise land of 1,000's of murderers and whole cities left to ruin in your country...take a look at your own before you start slagging off others.

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Not slagging off the UK just disappointed in the way things are going, seems to me you (the UK) haven't learned a thing by the example that some of the major cities in the US have set for you , one would have thought that after seeing whats happened in various cities in the US you would have been bright enough to follow a different path :rolleyes:

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Would that have been Enoch Powell and his 'Rivers of Blood' speech?

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Margaret , you got it in one , sorry we all thought different in those days but it seems history is proving (sp?) him right , the "west' is now being forced to give up its culture/lifestyle in the name of what ? nothing I or most of my generation , which I think includes you would have thought would ever happen , there was never any problem/conflict when the first 'wave ' of immigrants moved into the area , same as the Poles after WW2 they adapted to the local customs without demanding special rights , never a problem with the Italian family across the street or the German woman who lived round the corner and had married a local tommy after the British occupation of Hamburg and had kids who I went to school with. But it seems to me a "mass instant influx" and the creation of communities (ghettos) without absortion into local areas creates problems ... sorry just my thoughts .
agree or disagree its up to you ... thanks ;)

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I remember him well...and yes he was right in many respects.
These people do not wish to integrate. They do not like western ways. They want to have their own Sharia court system...but if you criticise them you are branded racist.

I worked alongside Indian doctors, in fact doctors from all nations and I always got along with them...maybe that was because we had a common aim.
So I don't think I am racist. I do not mind anyone coming here and living peaceably...allowing me to have my way of life.........I do not begrudge them their way of life either....but I do not want to be pushed into accepting their culture which is, it seems,what some of these in-comers want.......an emirate of Islam is how it was recently described...where I will be a foreigner in my own country.
Just my own view.....don't expect others to subscribe to it.

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Steeljack thats more or less bang on the mark. imho.

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It appears that the Police have a tactical unit in London called Trident, which specialises in gun crime within the black community (was talked about on Breakfast TV this morning) it was also commented that the police didn't get a strong enough grip on the situation on Saturday night, which of course if they HAD taken a much stronger grip on things they would have been criticised for police strong arm tactics and over reaction, damned if they do damned if they don't

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am aware of that special unit, but it puzzles me why it wasn't set up to tackle gun crime in the community as a whole.:confused: it aint just blacks that carry firearms.

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From what was said this morning cashy it seems there is an inherent problem within the black community, and that was a black person saying it

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not disputing that, but its irrelevant to me all nationalities carry firearms. so are they saying its ok fer others. to me its missing the point,its a lot of whats wrong in this country,everybody should be treated equal.

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Its ironic really that the first thing Blair did as PM was to rush a bill through Parliament banning hand guns, which was the biggest waste of parliamentary time ever, the only people who were effective were people like the Olympic pistol shooting team who had to go over to France to practice. You could just see it couldn't you, the local armed blaggers having a meeting, "well we can't use hand guns anymore that barsteward Blair as banned um, we'll have to stick to the sawn off for the next bank job lads" doh

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I don't think this as anything to do with race.

The scrotes 'rioting' in Enfield last night were mainly white.

It's a mentality that transends colour.

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Well it did say that these riots had been coordinated on social networking sites, and mobile phone networks, no doubt rent a mob saw another opportunity to create mayhem and took it with open arms

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no all these poor hungry,starving youths had to eat.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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:rolleyes:

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I must pay more attention and read all your threads G.:D

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But then you'd have nothing to do.

Just accept that whatever you post, I've already said.

Earlier, and better.

:D

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see i was right, just heard on news BBC, they looted "Currys" in Brixton.:rolleyes::D

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I think I'd be taking the 'Everthing Must Go!' posters out of the window, if I was a London shop keeper today.

:rolleyes:

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i know. deputy mayor says we are in control really looks like it:rolleyes:

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There's a simple answer to all this nonsense in London.

Tanks. Roll 'em in and use 'em.

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Well Water cannon might help

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Smart Water or dye in Water cannons...then the perps can be rounded up and charged with civil unrest....made to clean up and rebuild the areas that they have demolished.
Make them work like they have never worked before.....until they sweat blood.

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im watching bbc news at the minute ... spugs says why not bring the police in from northern ireland .. theyre used to dealing with stuff like this .. and bring back rubber bullets, water cannons etc .. and see how they like that ...

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Sod water cannon. That's for civil disturbance and disorderly crowd control.

This is looting and arson. Shooting on sight is the only answer. These jokers are not only firing shops, but residential buildings as well while the cops are standing back and surrendering any responsibility for civil protection. If the Met are not prepared to do the job the ratepayer pays them to do, then send in the army with full carte blanche to restore public order.

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This is England. You all seem to forget these scum have human rights :mad:

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birmingham now:eek:

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Sorry Dave, how silly of me, forgot about that :rolleyes:

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Accy next.

Starting with Wetherspoons.

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I thought I saw police water cannon vehicles racing down Tower Bridge road but I've since been told the MET don't have any!
It's calm in my neck of the woods but stations are closing and the shop shutters are coming down..looks like it's going to be a long night :(

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Well at least you should be able to pick up some cheap trainers tomorrow morning.

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this all in broad day light god knows whats going to happen when it gets dark.theresa may thanking police but youve got to re-apply for your jobs and some of you wont get any:mad: more hollow words wheres our so called leader londons burning and hes still on his hollys,i think he should resign he has just showed he couldnt give a peeps

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croydon now:(

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Please, please, please....can we get to Tower Hamlets? The Whitechapel mosque, for a starter.

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This all looks like the work of rampant criminal asronists..god help the people who live in or near these burning buildings.. I don't want to tempt fate but it will be a miracle if people don't lose their lives this night.

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wonder if toxteth will get it:confused:

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It's truly horrific. Can't believe what is happening. I hope you're wrong but with all these indiscriminate fires I fear the worst.

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He should have been back Saturday when it all kicked off, he's a proper pratt, he'll get some stick for this

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Andrew, are you safe?

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Yes it's quiet where I am.

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stay safe Andrew.

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I'm safe, too.

It's so nice of you lot to ask.

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wouldn't want any harm to come to you Tealeaf.

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Get back up north for a while Andrew, good to know you're not near all the trouble

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leeds now:eek:

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its out of control now clapham:eek:

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Peoples homes and businesses are being ruined and lives at risk and you keep bleating on with your political claptrap. :mad:

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no people elect a leader ,people expect your prime minister to be in charge he took his time but he has decided what he should have decided 2 days ago instead of treating it like an inconvienence .i can say what i want that is part of democracy where your supposed to be able to say what you want and have freedom of speech if you dont like it move to somewhere like china:D

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may i add why is this happening :confused: i would have said the same thing whetever political leaning the prime minister had .peoples lively hood and houses are in jeopardy and it took him 3 days of rioting to come back .thats not the actions of a good prime minister or mayor boris johnson

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Cmonstanley does use anything and any event to shove his political views down the throat and now is not the time...but he is not talking claptrap.. these events are showing that the police have not got the numbers to cope with this sort of disorder and to make futher cuts in numbers is just plain madness.

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i hope it dosnt kick off in accy theres no shops worth looting it wouldnt be worth using the deisil getting into town :(

the only thing worse would be finding out you had won a trolly dash around poundland

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Yes, you have the freedom to spout your drivel.

Just as everyone else here has the freedom to ignore most of the pap that you come out with.

What's happening is a disgrace.

The criminal lunatics have been allowed to take over the asylum.

Suprisingly I'm with Tealeaf.

Sod Helmand province.

Send the troops in, to get the scum off the streets here.

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Can we say the same about Miliband?

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It ain't the numbers, Mancie.

It's the political correctness/do-gooding/human rights bullchite that is stopping the police from doing the job they should be doing.

All that is needed is a few cops armed with the right weaponary to take out a couple of looters with a few body shots and the rest will buggar off home. Any other civilised country in the world would have done that already.

Lets do it now.

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Maybe not worth it to some but some of us have our livelihoods down there, it only takes one dickhead to start something ( of which there numerous in any town ) and we are sunk :(

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Don't matter a stuff whom the leader is, i fear this is payback fer all the "Bleeding Heart Brigade" no real deterrant any more, police, judicary, etc are virtually toothless, Catch Em, Tag Em, send em on Holiday, yeh can spout about Cameron all yeh like Cmon, but all parties are responsible fer this mess.:(

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You could always set up shop in Church.

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To some idiots, well one actually, this seems to be like some stupid virtual reality game.

With extra points awarded, if you shoot down a political enemy, and which has excited them into a voyeuristic frenzy, from the safety of their croft.

Innocent people might very well die.

As well as all the homes and businesses being destroyed, that might not get rebuilt for years.

That's aside from the real fear that all the decent people, living in the areas targeted by these scumbags, are having to cope with.

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Isn't that what kicked off this lot in the first place?...the shooting of a petty criminal...or at least that is what is supposed to have started it.
Why aren't they using CS gas and rubber bullets? Water cannon and smart water..then round 'em all up.

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We don't have water cannons on the UK mainland, only in Northern ireland

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The police should finish filling out their risk assesments by wednesday, then they can go and sort it out. :D

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Amazing the Dutch had em in 69, i remember being hit by one.:D n that wasn't rioting,they were just swilling the dossers off the "Dam Square" pmsl

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I wonder if that wastrel Cameron will declare a State of Emergency on his return from sunnier climates? Although we don't have the Riot Act anymore, at least that way he could declare them to be shot on sight.

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I remember having an argument with some members of the French CRS in Paris back in '85...one of 'em whipped out his gun and held it to my head. I wouldn't mind, but I'd only been peeing in the back of a dustcart.

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I'd say that what is happening now has sod all to do with any shootings and most of these opportunist rioters and arsonists would not even know the name of the bloke shot... this is simply an excuse for mostly teens and young adults to run around causing aggro..any reason for the the events in Tottenham have gone out the window..it's a free for all for those inclined to smash things up and rob.

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Is this what he meant when he said the big society and people doing things for themselves!!!!!!:confused::confused::confused:

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Declare a curfew, send the army in, looters to be shot on sight.

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yep agree 100% its whats required, all this has occured though since Bee went on holiday.:eek:

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no it dont seem a virtual reality game people have been warning about this all year this has been pre-planned by criminals taking bobbies off the street is not the answer and sunbathing while your capital city burns is not good leadership .thats just a point of view thats not political point scoring whoever was in charge its just plain wrong its total anarchy its not funny its like guerilla warfare.

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What army?:confused: this is 2011 mate!

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Just been on the blower to a chum of mine attached to the Met...for what it's worth, video evidence is indicationg that 95% of those involved are ethnics.

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He's just been on telly saying that it's all the fault of the cuts...oh hang on a minute, I'm mistaken, it's actually Ken Livingstone.

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Crikey..does that mean the rioters had laid on buses from Wapping and Stepney to cause mayhem up Hackney.:)

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was a woman on news tonight who was nearly burnt big time in Tottenham, said she was fleeing the building n a blonde haired white guy was carrying a carpet roll outa the store she lived above, laughing at em. n she was white.:eek: so hes one of that 5%.

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Nah...our lot still sticking into their puddings. It's Ramadan, remember and they only started eating an hour and a half ago.

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rumours theyve let animals out of the zoo on twitter tiger spotted .cant believe it myself:eek:

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Must be one of the Spur's yids.

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Is Ken Livingstone cmonstanleys twin, all he's concerned about is slagging the government off.

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Someone's just lit one of those Chinese lanterns in Frinton on Sea.

It's all go off big style now.

Better get some more tissues out.

You'll be up all night now.