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notting hill now:(
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shooting in croydon now
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The dutch better bring them over here, it's the only chance they have of playing at Wembley on Wednesday night. No way should a meaningless friendly be allowed to go on and take police away from where they need to be |
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Looks like Ealings burning.
How much longer will the government allow this comedy to continue? |
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Theresa May is out of touch - previous Home secretaries have been 'resigned' for less dramatic errors of judgement
Theresa May: We can cut police budget without risking violent unrest | UK news | guardian.co.uk |
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Google maps are showing the wide ranging spread of this
London riots / UK riots: verified areas - Google Maps |
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You can't beat the BBC for coverage :D.. every ten minutes they go over to the weather:D
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It's getting clear from were I am that the police cannot contain this .. there are groups surrounding high street bussiness like JD,Currys and such with the police driving into the carparks and then driving away.. peolple are standing around with bats and weapons to protect thier property .. the police cannot cope
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They have started looting and burning things in Liverpool and Manchester now
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OK know its a bit cynical but wonder how many Brits who actually live outside of the M 20 (London ring road) actually really care whats happening in the Capital and maybe deep down inside have a gut feeling that it "serves the sods right , they brought it on themselves, they (London, Banks, Politicians , Cultural establishment and media) have been ripping off the rest of the UK for years " .
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The majority of us will feel very sorry for all the decent people who are living in fear. Besides, thanks to the ease with which these scum can organise themselves, copycat attacks and looting has spread outside of the capital. (The motorway, which encircles Greater London, is the M25, by the way.) |
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It speaks volumes about the mentality of these yobs.....and to a great extent their parents. I think a lot of these feral youths think they are in some kind of video game. |
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One thing's for sure - the current reaction from the authorities is worse than useless. The Home Secretary has been wittering on about parents checking where their children are. Is she joking? The parents of these scum probably sent 'em out with a shopping list of stuff to nick! She was also asked about bringing water cannons or the army in. After first trying to duck the question she then waffled that this isn't the sort of thing we do here. Well, Theresa, it's high time we did!
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It seems to have spread to our area !! Just been down union road ossy,the bin outside ossy co-op seems to have been pushed over :eek: |
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This is not 'thatchers eighties are back' as the thread starting moronstanley would have us believe.
This is more like the lunatics taking over the asylum. It isn't the Tories or Labour or any one political party that is at fault, it is because we the population of this once great Country are so apethetic as to allow this type of thing to happen. Standards have been slipping, (It's now more like an avalanche), for years, instead of all of us acting as responsible adults we have just shrugged our shoulders wrung our hands said, "it's nowt to do with me, I'm alright Jack sod you", that has created the situation we are now in. I hope this does not spread any further around the Country than it already has, but if it does actually come to our area will we make sure that our children & young people aren't involved or will we in a few days time be hanging our heads in shame as we witness the consequences of not really giving a damn? |
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its summat i said earlier, this is not anti-political action n only fools try to make it so, this is oppertunistic, lawless scum, wi no concern fer decent citizens, think twas margaretP suggested earlier, use water cannon wi DYE, on em, much easier then to identify n deal with. occasionally there have been uprising/riots etc oer last 40/50 yrs, they have been using water cannon in holland that long, wonder how much aggro like this they have had? have been a few times n found the dutch to be reasonably tolerant,happy people. but this silly cow of n home secretary says "Its not the british way":rolleyes: well maybe not if it aint happening in the area she lives.:rolleyes:
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surely it is not beyond the realms of possibility for one of the MET commanders to get a few of these water cannons sent over pronto...with a hefty supply of smart water......the thugs will not realise that it is anything other than ordinary water....but it can be seen under special lights and does not wash off...then haul their sorry carcasses before the courts.(suspend their human rights, after all they didn't consider the human rights of those who lived above the shops they torched)
Don't jail 'em chain them together and make them work their nads off, cleaning up the damage. Surely there must be someone out there with the cojones to make an executive decision...these thugs are laughing in the face of what is supposed to be authority....and the tax payers are paying for a service they are clearly not receiving. This not about politics, it isn't about a protest for Mark Duggan, it isn't about deprivation......the loss of the youth clubs has nothing at all to do with it. This is about pure greed, materialism and thuggery. |
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I now understand why the police are pussy footing about, Iran is urging us to restrain our Police.
PressTV - Iran urges UK to restrain police |
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I wonder if anyone is thinking if they mess up sorting out the riots because they are understaffed the government will magically find more money to have a change of plan on reducing the police force? |
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Maybe they could raid the pot marked 'Foreign Aid'...because pretty soon now we won't have a pot to put any foreign aid in.
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Theresa May has just been saying that they don't want to get the army in or resort to the use of water cannons.....'We don't do things like that...we police by consent'...what on earth does she mean...the consent of who?.... The rioters...or the people that the police are supposed to be protecting?
This mess should be cleared up in any way that is possible, and that doesn't resort to people losing their lives. This pussy footing around gives the thugs, the anarchists a free rein to do whatever they please..........and David Cameron saying that the perpetrators will 'feel the full weight of the law'......What kind of joke is that? If a murderer gets out of clink in four years(one of Baby P's Killers) then the rioters can expect what???....maybe a week or two at HMP...with all mod cons. It'll be like a holiday camp. And who's to say that once in clink they won't kick off and wreck that place too? I despair...I really do despair. |
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In the longer term, this should also serve as a wake-up call to embark on a much-needed reform of criminal law and the judicial system in this country. Harsher sentences, more rigorous punishments and more emphasis on the rights of ordinary, law-abiding citizens of any race, creed or colour to live their lives in peace and a lot LESS emphasis on the "yooman rights" of the feral scum that currently infest our society. :mad: |
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The issue of resources doesn't come into it. And by saying that, it is almost accepting it, and thinking that it cannot change....it has to change or we will be back to the days when it wasn't safe to walk on the street at night for fear of brigands and robbers...back to beyond the days of Margaret Thatcher back to pre-victorian times...is that what you want?
These riots are the results of years...no, decades of pussy footing around issues that should have been dealt with in a much firmer way...for years parents, authorities, schools, the police and judiciary have taken the line of least resistance...but it has been dressed in all kinds of clothes...political correctness being one of them. This has led to levels of respect falling...respect for parents, teachers, schools, the law......the people involved in this criminal activity, dressed up as riots, have had no firm boundaries in their lives, no role models, save for the z list celebs they want to ape....and many of them probably have no stable male influence in their lives. Root causes......these are the root causes. The fabric of society has been weakened(probably forever) by taking the soft option. |
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i think the cutting short of holidays is more than enough to show these thugs whos in control :rolleyes:
Cameron and co are probably willing to let this drag on because its deflecting interest away from the news of the world issues and his pal murdoch :rolleyes: If this was any other country it wold be sorted by now and teh troops sent in but hang on where are all our troops.Yup policing other countries |
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Coming bacl from holiday doesn't seem to have galvanized anyone into some kind of useful activity.......as much good as a tripe spanner/hammer/shovel!
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I think before they can sort anything they should get on the same planet as everybody else. :rolleyes::rolleyes::D:D |
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I didn't explain myself very well......the resources do exist, but not at the point they are required...it would be simple to 'borrow' these for the duration of the riots...and it should be easy enough to do...and the fact that the resources aren't where they are needed should not stop them from being considered.....aye, there's the rub though......Theresa May wants to police by consent.......a really daft concept in the circumstances.
The circumstances should be enough to change her mind.....maybe when a few innocent peole have been roasted in their own homes she might consider it eh? |
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They will talk round in circles and nothing much of a productive nature will come of it...or if it does, I will eat my gusset. |
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Advert seen on my yahoo home page.
For Currys 'laptops at giveaway prices'...so that's what started it! |
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Ask the Police why, when in Totenham on Saturday night they in Riot gear sat back and watched as thugs and criminals ransacked a shopping centre for 8 hours and did nothing! This incident started the whole 3 days of mayhem - the Police could have done something at the time they didn't - why not? I wasn't there but several people have mentioned this point on the radio some of whom witnessed this occuring. The Police have given these looters a taste and now they want more as they did last night!
Lets hope they don't try some other towns tonight while the Police have all been called into London to defend the capital! |
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my apologies it seems Cameron has decided to take affirmative action after all :eek:
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I thought you were going to post a picture of the Prime Minister on the streets of Tottenham, hugging a hoodie wearing looter. :rolleyes: |
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We have seen Boris carrying a brush but no evidence that he knew how to use it.
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but check your pockets afterwards ;) |
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He doesn't know how to use a hairbush. Now Nanny no longer does it. |
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Perhaps these feral scum should be employed to organise the festivities for the opening and closing of the Olympic Games.
It's certainly been more visually spectacular than the River of Fire, which was supposed to happen at the Millennium, on the Thames. |
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manchester now
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What's the weather like? |
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This sort of thing is nothing but shame to us all no matter what Social/political background we come from, this is OUR Country that is being abused. |
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I remember not that long ago when the police DID take action against rioters and were hung drawn and quartered for it, funny old world ain't it
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eccles street manchester an hour ago seemingly youths are pouring out of salford heading for city centre
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Hope you took a brolly. Or have you got a hood? |
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sounds like preston now:mad:
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Surely that is the least a good socialist would do? |
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miss selfrige in manchester on fire:eek:
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I think the police knew that something would be going on in Salford tonight. The blood transfusion service have been doing collections where my daughter works....the staff were very keen to get back to their base in Manchester and mentioned that some of Salford was being closed off from 4.30 ish.
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got a few friends in manchester they said bargain booze was first surprise surprise. a couple of hundred youths now in manchester city centre.
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Can't think why, but I keep getting a disturbing mental picture.
Someone watching Sky News, with a box of tissues by the bed. Working himself up to a right frenzy, under his tartan duvet. http://www.myemoticons.com/emoticon-...de/wanking.gif |
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With you there Marg, my sister works at the coop pyramid in Stockport, they were shutting all branches in Manchester early and boarded them up.
On a side note, sky news are reporting that Mark Duggan, did not shoot at the Police, his family are calling for someone to be accountable for this. Sounds like a result to me, if you are carrying a weapon and are surrounded by armed police, or armed b@@@ards for Neil and other Gene Hunt fans, you drop the gun, if you don't, well the police will disarm you, lethally if needed. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Funny there is no riots in Scotland, is there anything worth stealing up there? |
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Except when they're beating the porridge out of each other at Old Firm football matches. Highland clearings, the testing out the Poll Tax, nothing much will rouse them in to protestation. |
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As for nothing worth stealing? There is the Stone of Scone, (stone of destiny), it's the only thing we ever stole from them that they wanted back so that must be worth something. :) |
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England? '66? Whoops. Sorry. My mistake. :rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: (Awaits letter, informing me that I'm to be prosecuted under the Race Relations Act 1976.) :rolleyes: |
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There's always a silver lining - its deterring immigration;)
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The Scots do take to the streets in protest. Three girls in Edinburgh burnt a L.P. cover, and a tartan gonk, the year the Bay City Rollers spilt up. |
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and london have borrowed a couple of thousand of our police too;):)
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dont think so i was there and it was a small minority 200 people out of 200,000 and half of them were mancs who were rioting with other known football firms..i think the manc police will kick ass tonight because there is no media ,,:mosher:
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BBC radio Manchester has reporters there, even after their transport was attacked and set alight.
All transport, buses and trams, are not going into the centre. PS Update -Metrolink are suspending ALL services |
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What they are not telling us through the media, the brits are now fighting back by forming their own groups and defending their homes and property.
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Still, at least the streets of Baghdad, and Kabul are safe tonight. |
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Rioting has been going on for the last 4 hours in Nelson town centre,causing £4.25 worth of damage :D
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No Cashy...that's the Insurance replacement value.
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Even the seagulls are looting in brighton riots !!
‪Seagull Steals Doritos‬‏ - YouTube |
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Was listening to a police fed rep this morning on TV and he was asked why the police didn't take stronger action on Saturday night, his reply was quite interesting real, he said the police are damned if they do and damned if they don't, a lot of police officers are a bit reticent at wading in for fear that they maybe to ones under investigation while the real trouble makers walk away scot free
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Make no mistake - any officer administering some proper medicine to one of these young scum will no doubt get filmed on what is probably a stolen mobile and within a day the said detail will be on the Guardian or BBC website accompanied by the usual pinko drivel of police brutality and how society is to blame for the plight of these unfortunate, downtrodden young men. Oh, and with ther policeman suspended and awaiting charges. As for the Bengali's defending their property in Tower Hamlets, the only local shop that was wrecked on monday night was the Tesco Metro on the Commercial Rd. That is the only non-Bengali shop in a 90% Bengali area and it was the Bengali's who did it. |
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The Bengali community in Whitechapel also fended off a mob, who arrived to target shops on Commercial Road as prayers were finishing at the East London Mosque. "Within about 10 minutes there were 1,500 people on the street, not just Asians but also Somalis," said Muhammad Ali, 27. The mob fled on the Docklands Light Railway.
Mahbub Alam, 35, owner of a computer shop, said their intervention reflected the community's determination to protect itself. I should know better than to believe in what I read in that bleeding heart, pinko radical rag, The Daily Telegraph. ;) |
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