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I'm afraid so, Wynonnie. There was no trouble here on Monday night other than the Tesco getting turned over by hooded Bengali youths. That's about a quarter of a mile south of the East London mosque and it's possible the same lot then did a runner east along Commercial Rd, down Watney market and hopped on the DLR at Shadwell.

I did notice the local wine shop on Garnet St (indigenous owned) was the only place that was closed last night but that all the corner shops (Bengali owned) did have people stood outside them. Apart than the Tesco incident, nowt's happened round here other than an exercise in vivid imagination by the dominant ethnic community that they were in some way being targeted.

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Not sure whether this will work but these are a few people of "interest" to the police

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...ers308x385.jpg

One from manchester I hope

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...11_964x312.jpg

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Yes Neil...and therein lies the problem.
Over the years the electorate has been bamboozled with smoke and mirrors from our politicians......we have been given soundbites when we needed sense...and committee meetings when what we really needed was decisive action.
Maybe it is the politicians version of the Engineers Rule ........you know the one? 'when you don't know what you are doing, walk fast and look worried'

They confuse meetings, the recall of Parliament and committees with decisive action.....Someone should enlighten them.

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I have heard this morning that they are going to use plastic bullets......good! Just one little problem...it is about 5 days too late.

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No doubt with that announcement Shami chapatti or what ever she's called will re rubbing her hands, "they can't do that these poor lost souls have right you know":mad:

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And now they have contingency plans for using water cannon too(hope they are going to use smart water in them) hooray, at last some sensible moves are being taken.
John, it is the likes of Shami Chakrabati who have weakened the justice meted out to these thugs.

The rights of these poor souls are to behave within the law, if they choose to do otherwise then their human rights should be forfeited.

I was under the impression that this government made a promise to review the European Human Rights Act.

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Thing is though whilst these new measures are welcome, i fear the end result is NOT. ok take em to court,tough sentences, which means great expense, all will require legal aid- more great expense,, then no doubt some will sue fer treatment in gaol, even more expense, end result- they come outa gaol at the end of sentence, much better criminals than when they entered,cos they now learnt "All the moves" my solution would be, all those caught in this mayhem- CONSCRIPT EM, much less cost, cuts out all the legal expenses, End Result- they come outa the army having learnt some semblance of Respect @ obediance, n just maybe theres a chance of em fitting in wi society.;)

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Another move to pacify the public who think they should be used. Last night they would have had the water cannons in London where nothing happened so it would have been a waste of time.

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I would hope there would be enough of them to be deployed in all major cities.(if there aren't, then get some in) If these vile youths think they can get away with it once.....don't you think they will do it again...perhaps in a few months?
I don't suppose they would have been a waste of time a few nights ago...but hey, we will never know as no-one took the decsion to get them made available.

How would you have dealt with the mobs Neil, just out of interest.

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Looks like this is not only spontaneus stuff but maybe a lot of them have actually been educated by their teacher in to the art of being a crininal

London riots: Teacher, 31, pleads guilty to looting as court cases start - mirror.co.uk

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yeh like the P.M. says they are really getting Tough on em, in yer link it say a student fined £150.:mad: that'll teach em.:rolleyes:

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Harriet Harman says one of the causes of the riots was the Govt.s cut in student grants/allowances .......does anyone actually think that 99% of those involved have ever opened a book or can actually read

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I think any politician that make mileage out of these riots to promote own party, is almost as bad as the rioters...because it gives the rioters a hook to hang their miscreant deeds on.

These riots had nothing to do with politics......but everything to do with greed and bankrupt morals.
They are trying to excuse and justify the inexcusable.

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A prime example being dear Harriet, who last night tried to make political capital out of the fact that Nick Clegg and Boris Johnson had been booed on walkabouts and Ed Milliband hadn't. :rolleyes:

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Think this woman should be used as a test crash dummy
BBC News - Newsnight - Gove accuses Harman of 'double dealing' on riots cause

;) :D :D

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A section of a generation has been subjected to social engineering to make them the feral scum that they are.
The police have been purposely hidebound with regulation to render them ineffective.
It only needed a flashpoint excuse to provide those feral scum with the opportunity to go on the rampage.

Coincidence? - no - decades of planning to get to 'eruption' point

Purpose? - increase in population control by -
...martial law - the ideal outcome
...increased police powers - which looks very likely, and the best outcome in the circumstances.
Neither option is desirable, but there are no others.

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and your proof for this is????

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Are you going to share with us who 'planned' all this, or are you sworn to secrecy?

:rolleyes:

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The age range of those arrested in manchester was 15 to 55. So which generation are we talking about? :confused:

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You see.

Fun for all the (dysfunctional) family.

Shameless - The Musical.

Nationwide tour already started.

Coming soon to a town near you.

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I agree with the social engineering point, but I am not altogether sure that the outcome was known or was calculated.

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Generations and Population Doublings
"The normal or average time between two generations of a species: about 35 years for humans."

The Official Social Engineering Framework - Social Engineers: Governments
"... even the government could have its own forms of social engineering which has a deeper clout among innocent citizens. The use of subtle means to change the current system and come up with a system that is meant to control is not a new practice. Authoritarian systems of government could engineer citizens with the use of propaganda-this can also be referred to as political engineering. For instance, the behavior of citizens is strongly influenced by such factors as taxation, anti-littering laws, economic policies, and even the media. Political correctness is often a motive among moralists in government positions. These laws could come in good as they tend to dictate the proper human behaviors yet they could be so far-reaching as to affect some citizens’ free will. Social engineering has, indeed, evolved and its effect can now be felt by everyone. Only education and law would promote preparedness and security among citizens... "

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After listening to Harman & Lingstone over the past couple of days it does make you wonder if it was all planned and engineered by the Labour party to get back in to power ;)

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I am still not convinced Margaret...you can find stuff like this all over the internet if you are prepared to spend time looking.

The site calls itself The Official Social Engineering Framework...but what does the 'official' bit mean...does it mean it is official in that it comes from government sources.

It doesn't read like it is from a government body.

Margaret, I am not disrespecting/ridiculing your views or beliefs........I would not do that. It is just that I can't(at the moment) subscribe to them.

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'...even the government could'

Should we be reading 'could', as a sign that this indeed is actual fact, and not just supposition?

:rolleyes:

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Anything a little more substantial, as to who planned all this?

Go on, dish.

Don't leave all the little drones in the dark.

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Oh I am sure that was the aim of the policies that were implemented by Labour...the uncontrolled immigration, open borders, the breakdown of the family, the lessening of the importance of marriage as a stable way to bring up children.....but when I said the riots weren't political, I meant that they were not solely motivated by a dislike/distrust of this government. They were motivated by hedonistic greed......I want it, I can't pay for it, but I can steal it because the police will be too busy controlling the disorder to bother with me.

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Agreed - whether you think they did depends on whether you consider all politicians altruistic:rolleyes:

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Anew logo for coe and his cronies.

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Here's the people behind it.

Good looking lads.

The team of Social Engineers to help educate and protect

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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There are no altruistic politicians...they are in it to feather their own nest.

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'official' in this context is the same as the Fan clubs for 3rd rate celebs and other such beings.

After all I might want to be a member of Ken Dodds fan club, but I would far rather be a member of Ken Dodds 'official' fan club.

We should be reading could as, nothing after this point can be proved through any official channels and should therefore be ignored.

How come all these sites only predict evil intent from 'officialdom' & secret societies?

Surely there must be another body somewhere in the world that like a knight in shining armour, is prepared to do battle against such evildoers on our behalf?

I really hope so.
:rolleyes:

P.S. I don't reallythink Ken Dodd is a 3rd rate celeb, he's actually top notch.:D

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When I think I tend not to generalise.

Hell, I'm so fair minded I wouldn't even label all conspiracy theorists as nutters, who wouldn't know an independent thought if it ran into their trailer park...and bit them on the ass.

;)

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When considering the result of their social 'engineering' no government is likely to admit it, nor have advisors employed officially.

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I dont really understand how martial law controls population or increased police powers for that matter:confused::confused:So why go to the trouble of all this "social engineering" :confused:

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This is a copy of one of my posts on another thread

"For those of you who are saying 'bring in the army', I would like you to realise that doing that is invoking an existing act of parliament

Civil Contingencies Act 2004

It sounds like a solution until you see the strings attached -

(b)provide for or enable the requisition or confiscation of property (with or without compensation);
(c)provide for or enable the destruction of property, animal life or plant life (with or without compensation);
(d)prohibit, or enable the prohibition of, movement to or from a specified place;
(e)require, or enable the requirement of, movement to or from a specified place;
(f)prohibit, or enable the prohibition of, assemblies of specified kinds, at specified places or at specified times;
(g)prohibit, or enable the prohibition of, travel at specified times;
(h)prohibit, or enable the prohibition of, other specified activities;
(i)create an offence of—
(i)failing to comply with a provision of the regulations;
(ii)failing to comply with a direction or order given or made under the regulations;
(iii)obstructing a person in the performance of a function under or by virtue of the regulations;
(l)enable the Defence Council to authorise the deployment of Her Majesty’s armed forces;
(m)make provision (which may include conferring powers in relation to property) for facilitating any deployment of Her Majesty’s armed forces;
(n)confer jurisdiction on a court or tribunal (which may include a tribunal established by the regulations);



That sounds too much like Martial Law to me"

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Then who leaked the details, that what's happening was all planned?

What's their name?

How did they access the information that there's a secret plan?

What evidence did they have to back-up their claim?

Questions, questions.

Yet very few factual answers...so far.

Happily I'm very patient, and will wait until I'm answered.

:)

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Could the person below be this man?

I know I could never have his patience, I always want to know now.
:worthy:

http://www.myemoticons.com/images/pe...asy/knight.gif

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Hapless bloody Harriet public school girl number one, enough said;)

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Thats because nobody knew who he was:rolleyes:

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I've only one thing to say about social engineering, it doesn't bloody work, full stop

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Population control is not a new topic.
All governments need to excercise it to some extent.
How governments do it varies according to the type of government.
As population figures spiral out of control, a need for greater control arises.

In 'democratic' societies methods have to be more subtle and take longer.

If you want to know 'who' - it is no longer a matter of 'follow the money', because money is a finite resource, and some have more than they could ever use, so seek other 'stimuli' - power.

The need for 'power over the masses' is the ultimate goal of a few.
Politicians are their puppets at the dirty end of the control, and politicians' reasons for complying are varied, wealth accumulation and self aggrandisement are but two.

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I didn't really think it was from government Margaret...it was my (unsuccessful) attempt at irony.

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Seems to me population control (abortion, contraception etc. is only used/directed at the 'Christian' indigenous population of the UK and northern Europe don't think it applies to any other ethnic groups ;) :confused:

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I meant control literally as in 'directing conduct and activity'.
Curbing population growth (is different) by contraception is encouraged where social norms make it acceptable.

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You mean like they do in China Margaret, where no family is allowed to have more that two children, would certainly screw a lot of people up in this country;)

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'Control' means monitoring/controlling the movement of individuals
ie more than just controlling an increase in numbers

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Yes, yes.

But you said it was 'planned', and no government would admit to this.

So how did the information you're passing on, get into the public domain?

You'd think such an important person would have a name, and be armed with vital evidence, to show what you're passing on to true.

Unless of course you've been fed misinformation...to keep you happy.

That theory I would applaud.

:rolleyes:

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Share your secret.

Don't be mean.

How have you avoided this contol, that the rest of us poor sods are under?

:rolleyes:

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Now whats her formula, eye of toad and toe of newt:D

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Don't forget, spleen of doubter.

;)

Keep the (mind controlling) faith.

:rolleyes:

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Just by being aware that there is this control and accepting that it is meant to be that way.

I have no whistleblower.
Politicians of the past gave us hints


President Woodrow Wilson: 1916 “I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”

"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not
behind the scenes." —Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli of England, in 1844.

"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." —Woodrow Wilson

"David Rockefeller is the most conspicuous representative today of the ruling class, a multinational fraternity of men who shape the global economy and manage the flow of its capital. Rockefeller was born to it, and he has made the most of it. But what some critics see as a vast international conspiracy, he considers a circumstance of life and just another day's work... In the world of David Rockefeller it's hard to tell where business ends and politics begins" —Bill Moyers

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I'm not getting at you personally Margaret.

I'm afraid I just don't buy it.

I believe no one.

Unlike you.

:D

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Perhaps she hasn't been able to avoid the 'washing', maybe the grand plan is to have a few people like her feeding us snippets of misinformation so that we, the great unwashed, (perhaps that should be we the great brain washed, rinsed & dried), would be more pliable and willing to accept 'their' version of our truth than this stuff that whiffs like a bulls backside?
:idunno:

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I'm sure there's not one person here who believes there isn't offical censorship of information, under the guise of propaganda.

This has always happened since man created societies to live in.

What I find laughable is a few deluded people think they, and only themselves, know 'the real truth'.

Sorry if it shatters any illusions, but truth isn't a concrete entity.

;)

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As is your right :) - but you did ask, which is a sign that you are willing to consider an alternative version of reality.

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Yes, I asked.

Like religion, no fact based answers were forthcoming.

Very disappointed.

It would have been a great comfort.

:rolleyes:

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I found it very disconcerting, and was more comfortable not knowing.
I now accept it as just part of life experience.

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Yeah, of course they do. Government is pretty blatant about it. They have thousands of minions of the state spread across the country social engineering the future generations. At school they even taught people not to steal from others just in case their parents hadn't told them.

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cmon dasvid cameron your having a joke im even agreeing with boris johnson No 10 rejects Boris Johnson call for police cuts to be scrapped | UK news | guardian.co.uk the cuts are managable david cameron was getting popular the he blows it:confused:

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Must've been something you ate.

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There's something I would like to run by you guys. A commentator on CBC radio said that the kind of riots that are taking place in the UK could never take place in Canada because we don't have a class system. I don't think that we do have a class system, or not much of one. But the other part got me thinking ... amazing, eh;) Is the class system still an issue in the UK? Do any of you think it may have something to do with the riots?

I'm not trying to agitate the fecal matter, I'm really interested in your ideas. Or comments, however blunt:D

Oh, and we do have riots, usually assosciated with hockey:mosher:

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I'd say this has gone way beyond any class system in this country..we have people from all sorts of our society and on this forum that openly say they would shoot thier own children no matter what the offence..these self proclaimed protectors of the peace and the ones who uphold British values are the same people who seem to have gone missing in the 80's and 90's...all of a sudden there are masses of them!.. there's no class system spoken of here .. well not until the kak hit's the fan ..

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I don't think anyone said they would shoot their own children......unless of course you are trying to tenously link the poll that says shoot looters....and the one which asks if you would report your own children for crimes they had committed.......which is a bit of a swizz. You are putting words in the mouths of Accyweb members that they didn't actually say...and there is a difference as you well know. You are doing a Cmon, when you do this.
Sensationalising something just to get a response.....a Red Top Rag ploy......unworthy.
I thought you had changed. Silly me!

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I think it's more to do with class than race.

Not in the traditional working, middle, upper groupings

We now have a percentage of people, across those traditional groups, who see things very differently.

There are those 'that have'.

There are those 'that want', and expect they should have, regardless as to how they get what they want....because they deserve it.

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Never considered killing my own kids; some of my daughter's boyfriends however .... :uzi:

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So it's become a class system based more on money and less on birth:confused: And the Eton/Oxbridge connection is no longer as important as it was? I always liked what Edward lV used to say after winning a battle: "Kill the gentles; spare the commons".:D

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It does seem that way to me Eric,n abscense of respect n discipline fer whatever reason has led to "I Want" "Im Having Regardless"they can trot out all the excuses to justify, just bull, many have been unemployed n on there arses, but never resorted to looting n arson.

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Greater Manchester Police have a flickr page of people wanted for rioting and have a free phone number to call, click the link below to have a look

Flickr: GMP-Wanted: *HOTLINE NUMBER 0800 092 0410*'s Photostream

They were also keeping updated on fact and rumour during the trouble using twitter, here is a link to them http://twitter.com/#!/gmpolice

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There is class system because the gentry can get away with doing what commoners get prison for
The irony of David Cameron's riot condemnation - War Room - Salon.com

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You must be part of the gentry, you bull as bad as they do!

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Whist the elite pay fer there stupidity re the bullingdon club, i doubt very much if any commoner who did the same would be sent to jail, jeez some aint even being sent fer this mayhem,:rolleyes: yeh sure yeh aint working fer Murdoch Margaret?:rolleyes:

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We see plenty of upper and middle class rioters on our streets, at our annual scum fest, the May Day protest.

Doing whatever you selfishly want, regardless of others, knows no traditional class barriers.

Britain's collective psyche has sadly changed forever.

Self only, and sod the rest.

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Spot on cashy

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the first eviction notification as gone out in wandsworth ....

BBC News - Council eviction notice for Clapham Junction riot accused's family

now its up to county court to decide ...

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where are they going to move them to:confused: bet you some where like accy

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Well if they move you out and they move one of them in, then that's a positive gain for the town, innit?

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Same as stopping benefits. Mmmmm now i have no money what should i do. I know i'll go out and rob.
Knee jerk reactions by armchair lawers sound great, but are really quite useless....:confused::confused::confused:

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They have already been on the rob (looting ) thats with benefits so stopping them wouldnt make much difference me thinks;):rolleyes:

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It would solve the problem of the shortage of social housing.
.....and create tent cities...coming to a field near you soon.

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I have a good idea we could ship them all to scotland and then build a bloody big wall, oh on second thoughts thats been tried:rolleyes::D

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Long gone T, driven away by the "Dog Stabbers" :D

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:D:D:D just what i was expecting lol:D

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I've really had enough of reading this do-gooding, pseudo-commie pinko-drivel from our Guardian reading friends on here. Here's a few answers to the problems we face, which if undertaken within the next few weeks would have have everything solved within a year or so and would probably also rid us of the budget defecit:

Reintoduce the following:

1) The 1714 Riot Act, abolished by the slime ball traitor Heath in 1973

2) Corporal Punishment in schools

3) Automatic repatriation for miscreants, their parents and their offspring

4) Town/Village stocks

5) National Service - but not in the military, but with the discipline

6) The concept of Shame

Get Rid of:

1) the EU

2) The Human Rights Act

3) Most of the BBC

4) About one half the bureaucrats in local/central government

5) ASDA/Wetherspoons

6) Drinks licenses from corner shops

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Sounds reasonable to me T.;)

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Not a bad start but what about public birching.

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Steady T, you'll be causing a riot with ideas like these ! :D

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Aye, I forgot about about transportation, compulsory abortion (and if there's an argument for abortion, it's pictures of that lot we've seen on the streets this week), and stopping all A & E treatment for drunks in hospitals.

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yep that sure kept me away from the isle of man,when me mates used to go,i always said pass.:D so theres proof its effective.

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Change Abortion for sterilization .

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To right cashy one lad i used to work with got birched in iom and said it was really painful very good deterrent he always said.

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Aye...ok..I'll go with that, on the basis it's cheaper in the long term for the taxpayer.

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Correct !!;)

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1 in 300 sterilizations fail.
I would sterilize them alright......two Nori's and no anaesthetic.

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A mate of mine was birched many years ago, and now he lives there!!!!!!:D:D

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300 less and one with no mates. :D:D:D:D:D:D

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A simple solution- theres quite a few uninhabited islands off the british coastline, just dump em on them n let em fend fer thereselves, minimum cost n everybody decent is happy.

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..which reminds me about urinating money in the NHS. Did anyone read the papers this morning about the A level student who had her tongue lengthened in order for her to speak Korean? I am throughly peeved off with stories still about taxpayer-funded lifestyle jobs on the NHS...everything from IVF cycles, tattoo removal, sex changes and all the other nonsense. This has nowt to do with health - if you want to change your lifestyle, then do it but don't expect me to pay for it.

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OOOH :eek::eek::eek:

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Don't be mean.

You've got out and about much more, since you were given your I.V.F unicycle.

Live, and let live.