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No doubt there's already a thread somewhere on accyweb about vaccines and this thread will be deleted or moved but anyway, i recieved a letter this morning from my GP basically saying it's vaccine time and i should get a flu/pneumonia jab. i find this strange since i've not seen my GP since i was about 12 nor had any sort of serious illness for donkeys yrs(touch wood), (needless to say i'm not going) i can only assume it's all about money.has anyone had this jab or got a letter recently?

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Got the letter oer 1 week ago, Had me jab on sat morning, always have mine, one year awhile back i missed it n was in bed fer 2 weeks nearly wi flu.

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yes I got a letter too....I guess it is related to my age. I've become and old codger.
I won't be going either. I'm sure that GP's practices have targets to meet when it comes to these things....and that their funds are reduced if they do not reach the targets.

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i'm still in 2minds about it as i've been led to believe they dumb us down if thats the right termanology.
1.do you honestly think it was down to not having the jab?
2.have you or any1 for that matter had the jab and still caught this virus?

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Yeh am near sure its that reason, cos used to have em at work wi me job fer many years, and before i started yon used to get flu regular, never did after. and no i never knew anyone who got the virus after taking jab, though know a few that got very slight symptoms,if that helps.

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well i can put your mind at rest it's nothing to do with age margaret as some would say i'm still a pup, i'd have to agree on the latter tho :D

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The last time I had a flu shot was Oct 2007 and had my last dose of flu a few weeks later.

I wasn't a recluse then so I can't tell whether the flu shot gave me flu or whether it was a case of the shot being useless. I haven't felt healthy since.

Now I know what is in them I wish I had never had one.

PS If you have only just had your first invite for a free jab you must have just attained the age when you are a potential 'useless eater' or pregnant.

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i was taught (same as most folk) that these vaccines save lives.but with a little research medical evidence doesnt support the thesis/theory that vaccines are the cause of lower death rates of disease/virus's infact some evidence is to the contray :confused::confused::confused:

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tell me more,whats in them? do you know were there made (company etc)?
i assume i'm of the "potential useless eater" age as i'm certainly not pregnant :D

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Works for me. I have a flu jab every year, and haven't had flu for over twenty years.

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Mum has a flu jab every year, as do I, being her carer. She missed one in 2008 and came down with flu which laid her low for weeks. Not long after she had a massive stroke.

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I have already had my say on this topic.
If you use the search facility on this forum and type in 'flu vaccine' you get a list of 24 threads.

Alternatively you could use google and find millions.

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Well I have been doing research into flu jabs as I was offered one for the first time recently and had it last week along with a couple of travel jabs. No ill effects so far even though my immune system has been compromised as I have recently undergone a course of chemotherapy.

You could try reading these links but I will extract some of the information for you. BTW you mention money having something to do with it - what exactly do you mean?

Flu vaccination - NHS Choices
BBC News - Flu vaccine 'withheld for safety'

You are eligible to receive a free flu vaccine if you:

• are 65 years of age or over (including those who will be 65 by March 31 2013)
• are pregnant (including women who become pregnant during the flu season)
• have a certain medical condition (see below)
• are living in a long-stay residential care home or other long-stay care facility (not including prisons, young offender institutions or university halls of residence)
• are in receipt of a carer's allowance, or you are the main carer for an elderly or disabled person whose welfare may be at risk if you fall ill
• are a healthcare worker with direct patient contact or a social care worker (see below)

The flu vaccine is offered free to anyone over the age of six months if they have any of the following medical conditions:

• chronic (long-term) respiratory disease, such as severe asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) or bronchitis
• chronic heart disease, such as heart failure
• chronic kidney disease
• chronic liver disease, such as hepatitis
• chronic neurological conditions, such as Parkinson's disease or motor neurone disease
• diabetes
• problems with your spleen – for example, sickle cell disease, or if you have had your spleen removed
• a weakened immune system due to conditions such as HIV and AIDS, or as a result of having treatment that suppresses the immune system, such as chemotherapy

Frontline health and social care workers should protect themselves by having the flu vaccine to prevent the spread of flu to colleagues and other members of the community.

If you care for someone who is elderly or disabled, speak to your GP about getting vaccinated against seasonal flu. You should also ensure that the person you care for has the flu jab.

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What evidence would that be? If you've done research into this aspect then surely you have researched the flu vaccine and found out what's in it or who makes it etc?

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Are you saying that the vaccine affects one's mental capacity? That's a new one on me!

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sorry to hear that mate.thanks for the input

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Some people aren't affected by it. It make some others ill.
This link explains why
How Vaccinations Work

Whichever type of of immune system is predominant in you, it can't be beneficial to have toxic preservatives injected.

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Dr Suzanne Humphries,Dr. Russell Blaylock etc..... i've only started looking into it today due to a letter i got from GP so to call it research was wrong of me lol :o

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That's OK, thanks, keep up the "research"! I will do likewise and look into those names.

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when mentioned money having something to do with it it's because i believe the NHS is the biggest drug pusher on the planet lol

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I think I'm too young - don't you have to be over 60?

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Under 60s can qualify if you already have illness serious enough to render you into the 'useless eater' category.

At least in abattoirs they kill quick - prescription drugs have 'slow kill' so that you die expensively.

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Kes didn't you read my post 13? It's 65 actually unless you have other factors to take into consideration.

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I would have thought the amount of preservatives etc is so small you are at more risk from the food you eat - perhaps not you Marg as you take such care over what goes into your system, but generally. And if preservatives were eliminated the vaccines would have to be in single dose vials which would push the price up.

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I don't think I have ever had 'flu'........and I think I have probably been exposed to it many times during my work in the NHS.
I just get a bad chest with few preceding symptoms.....not even those of a head cold.
I turned 65 this year so that is why I have been called.

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Toxins accumulate in body fat. Volume and frequency of ingestion/injection is a factor.

When your body reaches its limit of tolerance is when chronic disease manifests.

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Well regardless, I would rather take my chances with a vaccine than, yellow fever, smallpox, typhoid, cholera, tetanus and hepatitis. All of which are prevalent in the parts of the world I work in

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Too right BG, but can't you cross smallpox off that list? Thought it had been eradicated and you only need a jab if you work with the virus in a lab etc.

I'm due to go on hols soon and should have a yellow fever vaccination but it's contraindicated for over 60s and for folks who've recently had chemo therapy so I missed that one on two counts.

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its just When my doctor wants to give me drugs (i don't need?) as im fit and healthy with a ok,all round diet its natural defences up time lol, i dont believe prescription pharmaceuticals are the answer to preventative health ;) i think we should F science off and go back to creationism and "natural" medicines(that includes medical marijuana ;) ).BUT thats just me ;)

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You might not say that if you were in my position.

Perhaps you should find out why the doctor sent you that letter.

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My doctors are very strict with some drugs - they never want to give me drugs I don't need and a very reluctant to give sleeping pills, coedine pain killers ( strong co-codamol) and so on, except one of them that is.

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I can't comment as i don't know about your health susie, i think my GP thinks i'm "at risk of getting flu" how and why i dont know(but i disagree) i think im going to decline his kind offer to inject poo into me (thats why kids cry when they stick that needle in them,They know its poo thats being put in them an they know its no good for them) lol

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Tell that one to the dinosaurs, oh, you can't can you, God killed them off long before he decided to have a second go and created us.

I just love the way this thread is evolving.
:D

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Susie, I had the Smallpox done by the UN, I was offered a job by them. flying aid in parts of Africa, apparently all UN field personnel have every vaccine thy can find!
Luckily I got a job in Morocco instead.

Back to thread, regarding the way this is going, :banlama: back to the Stone Age anyone?

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Strange isn't it?
He/she/it wants us to go back to the dark ages and ignore all the forward steps that have been made by science, however he/she/it/supreme being? needs to use a modern piece of scientific technology to spread the word.
i.e. a computer, shame on you, you shouldn't even have electricity in your house, haven't you seen how many electrical engineers those sub stations are killing off every year?
:rolleyes:

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I wouldn't call it n injection its only a pin prick/scratch unlike a blood test.:rolleyes: May be more credible if yeh actually knew what yer on about, though i doubt that.

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"back to the dark ages" :eek: OK Maybe to say F science alltogether was a bit strong :)
just for the record i'm a supreme being, we all are ;)

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Had mine this morning. Flu jab in one arm, blood out of the other. Think i must be unlucky. :D:D:D:D

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I don't normally bother about going for a 'flu jab but the district nurse is going to come and give my wife one and told me I should have one also.
It is now arranged for me to have the jab at home the same time as my wife.
This year will probably be the very first time in my 74 winters that I have 'flu.

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i stand corrected cash "its only a pin prick/scratch" you obviously know what yer on about :rolleyes:

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lol probably ;)

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is it for pneumonia too or is that another jab?

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As far as i know just for flu. I have chronic heart disease which is why they now send for me.

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That's interesting BG. Never heard that before, you learn something every day!

Well we could all become hunter-gatherers again...

Paleolithic diet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Well after forty years of no contact with the NHS, this year I have had surgery, radiotherapy and chemotherapy so my immune system has been all over the place. I've not had a flu jab before but it is recommended if your immune system is weakened. I had it last week along with a couple of travel jabs as I am now well enough to have a holiday and we are off to warmer climes all being well.

I was a bit dubious about having all three jabs at the same time but so far I have had no problems at all touch wood. Now looking forward to the holiday!

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When I had the three jabs as mentioned earlier I didn't even know the nurse had done them (I wasn't looking!).

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Well hope yeh have a good do, after a pig of a year yeh need one.;)

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Thank you Cashy, I will do my level best! We're off on a cruise for three weeks, end of next week - it was actually booked over a year ago!

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I hope you have a really good time, glad you didn't let a little prick put you off your vaccinations, but then, you're too sensible to listen to the thread starter.

:)

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Stop it Less, I'll get big-headed, but thanks for the good wishes and LOL at your comment.

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lol now now less were all entitled to our opinion ;)

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congrats on the no contact sue.I hope you enjoy the warmer climes,sounds like your in need a good hol and some fun in the sun :)

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Oh yes, looking forward to it and thanks Chris.

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maybe they just stick the flu and pneumonia together in1 since pneumonia is a complication of the flu virus :confused:

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Sue, I am really pleased that you are taking a holiday......the sun will do you good. I hope you have a great time........and take lots of pics....and to keep on thread....I hope your flu jab works :D

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No it's a completely separate jab...

Pneumococcal vaccination - NHS Choices

Interestingly I haven't been offered this one though the indications are that I fulfil the criteria. I don't know of anyone who has had or been offered it, it seems to be much lower profile than the flu jab. Though it is a one-off rather than an annual thing.

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Thanks Marg - will be taking my camera! Not been anywhere really hot before - had to buy a whole lot of new clothes... what a chore (not!).

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Researchers found that:
1.the vaccine prevented only 1.5 of every 100 adults from getting sick.
2.Reliable evidence on vaccine efficacy is thin
3.Vaccines do not affect the transmission of disease, even though their stated purpose is to reduce transmission of disease
4.doctors and pharmacies fail to divulge what harmful additives are found in vaccines and the side effects that can result( additives include aluminum, formaldehyde etc/
side effects include narcolepsy etc) :hidewall:

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In (1) which vaccine are you referring to?

No additives are there just for show, there is a very good reason for their presence. Aluminium compounds are there to help the vaccine do its job better. Formaldehyde is used to kill unwanted viruses and bacteria that might contaminate the vaccine during production. Most formaldehyde is removed from the vaccine before it is packaged.

Vaccines: Vac-Gen/Additives in Vaccines Fact Sheet

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i wont have the flu jab .. ive had it twice ... and both times was laid low with flu ... when i dont have the flu jab .. i dont get flu .... doc always offers it me .. and i refuse with my reasoning ..and he agrees with me ... i get it offered cos of my epilepsy

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What researchers? Please name them. The two you've named are fruitcakes.Perhaps they're anti-vaccine freaks.
I don't think the claim is that the flue vaccine stops you getting sick or transmitting or picking up the infection. The claim is that in most cases it stops it developing and making you very ill because your body already has antibodies ready to fight it.
In post 29 you seem to be advocating that we go back to the medical treatments of the early 1900's when the life expectancy for men was about 45, for women about 50. What a silly idea.
As for medical marijuana helping to keep you healthy and live longer- that's not a claim made even by its advocates on here!

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This is the first time I have been offered the 'flu' jab....and I would also get the pneumonia one as well if I took them up on the offer.
The Pneumonia vaccination is a one off.
I don't want the flu jab because I have a choice. My husband used to be offered the jab and he used to have it....except that every time he had it he was laid low for as long as six weeks.......since not having the jab, he hasn't had flu.
As we get older, surely we must have come into contact with many of these viruses, and have developed our own natural acquired immunity. I don't get flu......and even when I was exposed to people with flu(when working in hospital) I didn't get it. I sometimes get a head cold, but that is vastly different from real honest to goodness 'flu'.

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But doesn't the flue virus change almost every year ,Margaret, so that this years vaccine helps you against the latest known versions which you haven't had chance to get immunity to?

I've had flue a couple of times only but every winter without fail I had very severe colds, coughs and chest infections- until starting to have the flu vaccine. Since then I've been fine so I'll stick with it.

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Wahay Gordon, tell it like it is!

No perhaps about it!

OK I've found those figures referred to in (1):

In a study published in The Lancet, 2.7 percent of over 13,000 unvaccinated adults while 1.2 percent of vaccinated adults caught the influenza virus . That means that the vaccine prevented 1.5 of every 100 adults from getting sick—a far cry from the 60% efficacy claim the media touts. (Flu Shot Worsens H1N1 Symptoms, New Research Reveals)

Presumably the 1.5 of every 100 referred to is arrived at by subtracting 1.2 from 2.7. Surely what we should be doing is saying the vaccine prevented 1.5 fewer people getting the disease in every hundred so its efficacy is 1.5 divided by 2.7 - the number of unvaccinated per 100 who got ill. As a percentage that is 55.55 - not far from the "60% efficacy claim the media touts".

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Yes that's why it's offered every year. And if older people had built up more natural immunity then the jab should be offered to the young rather than the old...

The trouble is you usually only hear from those who have had an adverse reaction to the vaccine, not those for whom it has been a benefit.

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Yes, of course it does Gordon....the strains of flu that are considered by the pharma companies(possibly guided by info from WHO) to be the biggest risk are the ones incorporated into the vaccine...so if you have the vaccine and get the flu, then you must have got a strain that wasn't covered by the vaccine.
And the viruses can mutate over the 'Flu season' as well, which is also one of the reasons why you may still get flu even if you had the vaccination.

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i'm referring to the flu vaccine with this1 sue.

Aluminum enhances the immune response — But aluminum has also been linked to Parkinson’s,Alzheimer’s disease etc :eek:

Formaldehyde is used to kill and preserve bacterial toxins and make viruses unable to reproduce. Its also listed as a carcinogen by government scientists and warnings are issued about formaldehyde exposure from fumes emanating from plywood and particle board and for workers exposed to it in funeral homes,salons etc. But yet formaldehyde and its chemical brother, formalin, is still in alot of vaccines.maybe your right and it is removed before packaging i dunno :confused:

my point is there's to much controversy surrounding vaccines for me just to pop up an get my jab/s just because my GP says its 'vaccine time' especially considering my good health status (touch wood) :)

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Correct, susie. If these so called experts can misrepresent simple statistics so badly to support their claims how can anyone believe them?

Also chrisSJ, your figures are from a report by a moron who tested on 42 ferrets and came to these shattering conclusions -valid experiment, do you think? So far the only 'controversy surrounding vaccines' you've shown so far has come from the lunatic fringe- show us some serious studies from a reputable medical body which support your claims and we may listen.

As for aluminium and formaldehyde- have you seen how much fluid is in a flue vaccine? You'd probably have to have the whole countries flue jabs before you got a significant amount.

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Some people have bad reactions to peanuts.
Some people have bad reactions to vaccines.
Just because you don't, doesn't give you the right to regard those that do as foolish/ignorant/liars.

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maybe they are friutcakes,morons etc but fact is Every year they guess which flu bug might crop up, and we’re all supposed to line up arms at the ready(sod that for a game of soldiers). A few years ago didnt they said whoops, we got it wrong, come in for another jab of a different mix.A couple of years ago they said were all going to die a horrible nasty deaths if we didn’t get that ‘human, pig, bird’ flu jab. I didn’t see anyone die or get sick.did any get sick and die from the vaccine?
Is it true these drug manufacturers pay out to exempt them from any damage liability for these vaccines? i wonder why

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Addressed to me?
We're not discussing bad reactions to vaccines, MargaretR, we're discussing whether they work or not! So why bring a different line of discussion up? No-one has made an issue of bad reactions.
I know you, like chrisSJ, have a fondness for quoting from the lunatic fringe but just because two of you do it doesn't make it acceptable or believable to the majority on here!
I never suggested anyone was foolish, ignorant or a liar but as they say-'If the cap fits'.

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British Columbia Centre for Disease Control researcher Dr Skowronski experimented with 32 ferrets that showed that the symptoms in vaccinated animals were worse than those in unvaccinated animals.
Skowronski said.
“The findings were consistent with the increased risk that we saw in the human studies,”

valid experiment? i think not :(

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Thanks Gordon, I forgot to mention the ferrets... and I was just about to make the same point about aluminium and formaldehyde when I saw your post - thanks for saving me the trouble!

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Am I missing something here? What do you mean by 'useless eater'?

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I'm glad you agree with me, chrisSJ.
And there were only 32? Even worse.

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i got told Black Seed Oil is good around 'vaccine time' (never tried it tho)

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I have no problem with anyone that wishes to take a different route to so called conventional medicine until they try to encourage others to join them, or even worse discourage others from using them with crackpot theories.
Perhaps Susie had 40 years of doctor free life because she was vaccinated?
Without them she, I and many others may not be here today? Feel free to prove me wrong, don't use them, live long and prosper, if you can.
I'm happy whenever my Doctor recommends something to think for myself but take his advice because he studied his trade.

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It is a term attributed to Adolf Hitler and Donald Rumsfeld when they were espousing the benefits of reducing world population.

Useless eater = non productive consumer

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Perhaps the Tories should start using that phrase!!! :D:D:D:rolleyes:

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Which in turn is often used by Conspiracy Theorists, on their own websites, YouTube videos etc. There is no written proof either said those words.
It is also attributed to Henry Kissinger.

Of course Adolf Hitlers plans for 'the Final Solution of the Jewish Question', laid out at the Wanasee Conference chaired by Reinhard Heydrich are quite famous. But the words Useless Eater were never mentioned. Hitlers plans were sheer prejudice towards the Jews.

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your going to love this bit then less ;)

theres a theory were immune from flu and that Flu symptoms are exactly the same as acidosis. a virus can turn into a bacterium, a bacterium into a fungus and back again, It’s called polymorphism and it is inspired by changes in pH.
As opposed to monomorphism, which is related to Pasteur’s Germ Theory, which even he admitted was wrong (and modern medicine is all but based on)
Bottom line: Interier terrain creates the conditions you’re feeling, not some external force.
And finally, a virus cannot survive in an PH environment, so goodbye old acidosis terrain, start eating real food lol

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No I don't love it, but if you want to believe, then go ahead believe, just stop using your doubt's plus conspiracy to kill the innocent, you know who I mean? Those that would have used a vaccine and been protected except you intervened.
I had an in law into all the phony stuff until when 8 months pregnant with her third child her other two got chicken pox. Do you know what that can do to an unborn child? Such a 'U' turn, save my baby wasn't in it does she vaccinate against anything else now? Too right she does, living on a prayer isn't something you do with children, nor is it something you should do with yourself.
Precaution prevents many deaths, Where is Smallpox now?
Now go away, if you can take mag's with you, your way leads far sooner to plague.

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i'm only putting this info (or phony stuff as you call it) out there because i think folk should see both sides of the coin. im not trying to inFLUence any1.i'll stick with strong herbal supplements ;) lol and if you don't like the thread maybe you should go away :do-one:

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I have the flu jab even though i am only 42 , i have only had it twice though since i "died " on the treadmill in Blackburn hospital testing to see if my heart had been damaged through sport and it had. I collapsed and my heart stopped , if i had been anywhere else when it happened, and the docs said it could have happened at anytime under strain i would have been dead.One op later stent fitted for a collapsed artery and she's running like a clock .I have the jab because i dont want to risk the strain on my body if i dont have it , and get the flu. And so far so good.:)

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No need for you to put any info on, anyone with doubts can find the sites Mags puts on themselves, (so far you haven't really put 'owt on, you've used her).
After all, they need a computer to read your crass, they can find the real truth without your interference. To those folk with real doubts, I say bless continue, to panic mongers like you I say, shame, shame, shame!

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i encourage folk to study for themselves then make there own choices an take there own chances.you seem uptight happen you should see if your Dr can recommend a jab ;)

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Please try and make some sense!

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Wow Dave that's a bit of a bummer. Good job you were where you were!

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yeh said yeh were in two minds about it in yer second post on yer thread, That to me seems to have been a blatant porky. simple as.:rolleyes:

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Thats very true Sue, just what the doc said 3 years ago in February the swinging brick is still going.:D So i think i will take my chances with the jab.

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I had my jab on saturday .

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Is this what you're afraid of Chris? The conspiracy theory to end all conspiracy theories...

American Chronicle | Swine Flu Outbreak Or Bioterrorism And Intent To Commit Mass Murder?

Evidence of the Use of Pandemic Flu to Depopulate USA

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Enough of that, susie123- you're stealing margaretRs thunder.

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I have no intention of changing your minds about vaccines.

I have a selfish attitude towards health.

I look after my own.

You have the right to decide for yourself, but I strongly suggest you examine the arguments against, and not just leave your health in the hands of others who may, or may not, have your best interests at heart.

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I have one simple argument, A doctor knows a damn site more n me, simple as.

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Yes Cashy, of course they do, but they are in the pockets of the pharma companies.
Pharma companies are big business and want you to believe that they are good for your health....which may not necessarily be true. One size fits all medicine is suspect.

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I notice they stopped talking about Bird Flu a few years back. For a while it was always on the news about a possible Bird Flu epidemic when a bird was found dead. Did they decide to talk about another kind of flu instead?

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The major panic a couple of years ago was swine flu which they thought was going to be a lot more serious than it was.

Swine Flu (H1N1)

Bird flu is still around but so far hasn't affected that many humans. However it could be a major pandemic if it mutates into a form which can more easily infect humans.

Avian flu - NHS Choices
Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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All the people against the jab obviously have not had the Flu because If they had they would not even comment. They would be down the Doc's having the jab.:rolleyes:

I've had It 3 times and each time I thought I was dying.There Is a big difference between a heavy cold and Influenza,But don't worry you will find out when the time comes.;):D:D

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no the only thing i'm afraid of sue is folk willingly line up arms at the ready,no questions asked,just because the Dr recommeneds it. i'm also afraid the white coat mafia are using folk as guinea pigs and possibly creating unseen problems further down the line which there not even liable for because they paid someone off for immunity