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Its been announced today that Margaret Thatcher died this morning following a stroke.

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I'm sure there will be lot of people who will be dancing...but, whether you loved her or hated her, she had more cojones than any prime minister we have had since...and she stood up to the EU for the UK.

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personally i think they should have burried her years ago.

preferably alive

i hope the evil cow went out in as much pain as possible

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Don't hold back. Speak your mind.

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i cant this site has a swear censor thingy but i think the general jist has made it through translation :)

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I find it very interesting how many politicians are being so polite with their comments about her. It reminds me of a certain Not the Nine o'clock news sketch.

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I think there is only one possbile progression now following the death of Thatcher - Zombie Apocalypse!

I am more leaning towards Accymans opinion to that of Margaret's, respectfully. She was a mass murderer of sorts.

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i wonder if any of the news networks will have the balls to show the nations true feelings about her instead of just sticking a few people who have nothing but good things to say infront of the camera

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Just made a little something....

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How any of you can speak ill of her is of deep regret to this member.
She was British through and through one of the old school, we will never see her like again, she was born too late that is all, had she taken power before the first world war The Germans would have known their place and never have sought world domination, we would still have an empire, because she had a natural talent for keeping the natives oppressed.
All in all a wonderful example of how we like to describe Britannia.

Hang on, I've just read through the above and realised something is wrong, I haven't taken my calm down pills and am hallucinating again.
Condolences to her family after all they probably loved her, but nah, I won't miss her.

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Jaysay will be upset

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When it was being deliberated whether we should pay to have her buried, this cartoon appeared in the press.

I don't think they will dare to give her a state funeral,but with their barefaced cheek, they might.

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instead of a state funeral they should tip her coffin down a mine shaft :)

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I suppose some of you will feel better now you have vented your spleen on this old lady.....whatever your feelings towards her, she was part of a family...and will be missed by them.
I have no feelings one way or the other, but it makes me sad when people disrespect someone who has died.
She is beyond your wrath.

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She wouldn't hit the bottom, that's where all the illegal immigrants are hiding 'cos no-ones been near the places for years and so long as they don't smile, no chance of seeing them!
:hidewall:

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Are there any left?

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Yes theres on in yorkshire but its only for tours now

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1051830..whatever your feelings towards her, she was part of a family...and will be missed by them.
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and im sure she considered peoples families when she had elerly people thrown into prison for not been able to afford her poll tax or peoples families when she drove people to suicide when faced with prison over poll tax

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Your comment says a lot about you, but not much about her. It is in the past and that is where it belongs, because whatever is said, it cannot be changed. Politicians are politicians, they do what they think will benefit them...not us...it was ever thus.
OK, so she has died and you are glad, is that supposed to excuse disrespect?
As I said, she is beyond your wrath.

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my comment says a lot about me?

fair enough but i aint alone so i can live with whatever it says about me or whatever it is your getting at

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The vast majority of those jailed over the poll tax were protestors, prepared to go there for their principles.

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Death of the iron lady, may she rust in peace

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It matters not there were still pensioners jailed, She was evil n will not be missed one iota by me,

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Mmm, I thought someone had started a "book of condolences" thread...I was wrong!

Well done to Margaret P. for standing against the tide of hate.

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Hate that was well earned.

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Hey Mr c she wasn't all bad..she played a part in developing soft scoop ice cream with the research team at Lyons :)

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Soft scoop,never knew that. summat else to detest her for cheers.

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Whether it was earned or not, the hate you hold for her does not touch her.
She was an old lady...what she did in the past is in the past......There have been other despicable leaders, and there will be more to come.
She is gone, her influence is no more.
Hate damages the hater more than the hated.

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It sure aint damaging me, Know well it don't touch her, couldn't care less its made my day.

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It is not a case of 'Well Done' Steve(but my thanks to you for thinking it is)it is about respect......the respect for those who have lost a family member and are grieving.....and it is a little bit about balance too.
Politicians do what they do, it is not for us that they act, but for themselves..to earn Kudos,to stay in power....those are their only concerns...nothing else.

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They never did a good job - Everytime I take it out the freezer its frozen solid

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Love her or loathe her she had the conviction do do what was needed at that time.
And I bet she never fiddled her expenses like this crew (both sides of the house) of career politicians we put up with today.;)
Before the Thatcher era we really were the sick man of Europe, bankrupt and broken in many ways.

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Come on Rob !!
What about, it's just like their policies "Whipped full of air and fluffy"
Oh no, that's the other lot :)

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Cashy, you say what you think...and I do the same. It hasn't made my day, but neither has it spoiled my day. I won't alter my opinions to be in with the 'in' crowd.
I just think your group hatred is a wasted emotion. It isn't worth the emotional effort(and I guess you will tell me there is no effort in it).

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Certainly no effort at all.

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think the only thing she did right was the falklands .. went against the cabinet and others and sent the soldiers and ships to get em back ....

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And she fixed things by turning GB into a net importer of manufactured goods for the first time since the reign of Henry Vlll:confused:

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Just been announced she will not get a state funeral but will get the same status as Queen Elizabeth the Queen mother and Princess Diana . What is narking me however , all flags are now at half mass ( according to radio ) . When Diana died , Tony Blair had to persuade our Queen to have flag at half mass , as her subjects were up in arms.

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There are many reasons and variables why a country becomes a net importer, or for that matter a net exporter (look at our history in oil comodities).
Even if your proposition could be proven Dr E it is specious to lay all the blame on Mrs T and her governance.

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And it's only Monday.

What else did you get for your birthday Less?

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If you think that, isn't it a good enough reason for hating her - after all she did a lot of damage to this country, some of which becomes more apparent as time goes on.

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When I think of her I think of the Belgrano sinking documentary that I watched.

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I am thinking of nipping down to the smoke to put a stake through her heart (if she has one ) just to make sure.!!!!!!!!

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Nothing to say really as people already know what I think, so this will be my first and last post on this thread, its just a pity we haven't somebody around today, with the bottle she had, we certainly wouldn't be kowtowing down to Europe like we are today.

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No Sue....I won't waste my time hating her...if it can't change anything it is worthless.
And the outpouring of bile is disrespectful to the family.

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Why is respect warranted the son should have been jailed long ago fer his shenanigans in africa.

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Cashy, that is not the issue here....it is respect for the whole family who are grieving regardless of their past.
It isn't about what he has done or what he hasn't done, it is about the loss a family are grieving for.
They have lost a mother...and you only ever have one of those...and however bad they are....you still have lost.
I cannot explain it any better than that.
Her life has to be about more than the 11 years she was in office.......but, that is just how I see it.
My mother is almost the same age and I know how I would feel if she were to die tomorrow......perhaps some of you cannot empathise with this.

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Surely Margaret you can't expect a thread titled Margaret Thatcher to stick to the RIPs?

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Rot in pieces

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I've noticed most of the 'fond' memories and grief tourists interviewed seem to be from down south. I think people up north will have a different angle on the Thatcher years. I remember them only too well.

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Noticed that she lived out her final 3+ months in the luxury of the Ritz Hotel ( at the invitation of the owners apparently), not the usual dismal residential home or hospital ward. Wonder what favours got that one in return....:rolleyes:.

( having lost my dad last week I have sympathy for her family, none for her)

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All i can say wi honesty, very very few people in me 65 yrs i have ever hated, disliked a fair few but not hated, Thatcher is one of that category.

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Here's a curveball for you Mr c

Without Thatchers influence and Privatisation policies, Walker's Steel would never have been sold to a nationalised steel industry as opposed to British Steel in 1989 for squillions of £'s
Without Thatchers indirect influence Uncle Jack would never have had the spondulicks to finance t'Rovers and their success ;) long gone that it is ;)

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...and why should Cashy care about this?

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Sue, where have I said that?
She polarised opinion in her lifetime so it isn't strange that it continues on her demise...but does that make it right?

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Lindsay, she doesn't need your sympathy...and if you were given a choice of living in the Ritz..or a care home, for either yourself or a member of your family...what would you choose.......and whatever favours were received is quite irrelevant now.
Sympathy for the family is all that is required. It seems like it is acceptable these days to malign the dead.(not that it worries them)

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They'll have a field day when I pop mi clogs then Margaret, am I bovered :D

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Bullsh1t yer tolerable.:D

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Nowhere in so many words, but the tone of your posts suggests that is what you would like to see in this thread. I guess someone could always start another post for the I Hate Thatcher posts.

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To win 3 elections and transform the political landscape like she did was a magnificent achievement for her and her party.

Imho she was without doubt the greatest peacetime PM of the 20th century. Love her or hate her she had the thing that is sadly missing in most politicians - real conviction and the balls to make those convictions turn into reality.

Shame about the son though.

That said....can we bury Gordon Brown at the same time, I have personal reasons to hate the man.:D

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I thought this was one! What a sad outpouring of venom and bile.

This was the woman who persuaded Regan to talk to Gorbachev about ending MAD. She persuaded Gorbachev to talk to Regan about ending MAD. It worked. Lucky for us that's how much they respected her.
She did with the Falklands something no PM or opposition leader since would have had the guts to do.
She had the guts to tell the Union barons they didn't and wouldn't run the UK- Parliament would. When Scargill took her on she couldn't afford to lose, if she had we might as well dismissed Parliament forever. The price the miners paid was horrific and she went too far in changeing our energy policy after Scargill was beaten- that bordered on the vindictive.
When she got it right she was very right. When she got it wrong she could be very wrong. But she tried and she had conviction- she was bold, a leader of the calibre we haven't seen since.And we could certainly do with a bold leader with conviction now.
When she said something you knew she meant it and believed it, even if you violently disagreed with it. Can you say that of any of our politicians now?
Towards the end the power went to her head- power corrupts eventually. But she and her party were put in power for 11 years by the UK voters, 3 elections, so she was more popular in her time than you would think from reading some of the outpourings on this thread.
I didn't always agree with her but I sure as hell respected her as a person of commitment, drive and conviction. Rare qualities in politics these days.
A Leader- a dead one now. No need for the extremes of opinion being aired on here.

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Why would yeh not expect extremes of opinion on even yer own description on the woman.? Its a public forum, or are you in charge of opinions now Gordon?:rolleyes:

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I wondered why I could never find it in the newsagents these days! Bring back Alfred E. Neuman! ;)

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'I hope the evil cow went out in as much pain as possible'.
'Mass Murderer'.
'Tip her down a mine shaft'.
'She was evil'.
'Putting a stake through her heart if she has one'.

These aren't opinions, cashman!
We're not talking about Hitler, Stalin or Pol Pot. Just a dead politician who the British public put in power 3 times.
The joy of Accyweb is that no-one is in charge of opinions, not even the majority.

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Was Hitler not put in power in Germany in the 30s? Doesn't make it right.:rolleyes: They may not be opinions to you, but they are to others, n mine are sod all to do wi you or any majority:rolleyes: Not asking yeh or anyone to like or agree wi em, But you sure will never stop me giving em, until yeh own this forum.

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two of those are MINE - pun intended :D

now shes off the death wish lets see whos next

ahh mr cameron ......(fingers crossed)

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Whether you liked her or not and never mind whether the tories did a good job or a bad job, whatever else may be true of her, Thatcher engaged in incredibly consequential acts that affected millions of people around the world. She played a key role not only in bringing about the first Gulf War but also using her influence to publicly advocate for the 2003 attack on Iraq. She denounced Nelson Mandela and his ANC as "terrorists", something even David Cameron ultimately admitted was wrong. She was a steadfast friend to brutal tyrants such as Augusto Pinochet, Saddam Hussein and Indonesian dictator General Suharto. in her words ("One of our very best and most valuable friends"). Also across Britain Thatcher is still hated for the damage she inflicted – and for her political legacy of rampant inequality and greed, privatisation and social breakdown.

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she also kicked kittens for fun :(

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This demand for respectful silence in the wake of a public figure's death is not just misguided but dangerous. That one should not speak ill of the dead is arguably appropriate when a private person dies, but it is wildly inappropriate for the death of a controversial public figure, particularly one who wielded significant influence and political power. "Respecting the grief" of Thatcher's family members is appropriate if one is friends with them or attends a wake they organise, but the protocols are fundamentally different when it comes to public discourse about the person's life and political acts.

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In the grand scheme of things that's what will happen to us all.
More or less.

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Thatcher's achievements far exceed her negatives.

Britain in 1979 was like Greece. 6 years later it was the economic powerhouse of Europe.

Sure there were groups that got trampled on along the way, but that's true whenever change occurs and god knows change was needed. We couldn't even clear rubbish away under Labour.

Fact is she was driven, intelligent, determined, principled. Majority of the population respected her for it. I worked in the city of London during this time and the toffs got what they deserved. Prior to 1986 there was a club of elite who ran London. They walked around the city wearing silver top hats (truly, they did). She bust that up with deregulation and the introduction of electronic trading, and wider asset ownership (houses to companies). Terrible companies like British Leyland rightly went to the wall.

I come from the North, and every male member of my family back to 1700 (and probably long prior) was down a mine. Most died in their 20's to 50s from either accidents or lung related death. I'm pleased that industry was killed off in the UK in the same way that I'm happy that kids aren't sent up chimneys to clean them. Wanting to preserve industries that are clearly technologically dead makes no sense. It's like moaning about cheap overseas cotton killing Accrington. In the case of coal, just scoop the top off the surface like they do at the largest open cast mine at Widdrington.

Thatcher turned around the economy, created an economic powerhouse, put Europe and Argentina in it's place and was so popular she was freely elected 3x. Of course a minority won't like her - so far as I can see in terms of statesmen its Neil Kinnock (who never got to power because she was so popular), Gerry Adams, and General Galtiery :dummy:.

RIP Mrs T.

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R.I.Pieces you old bag.

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Not at all Sue.

My tone is one of compassion for a family that is grieving, whilst this bile fest goes on, not just on here but across the whole of the country...and by some people who are far too young to have even been alive when she was in politics. I have to come to the conclusion that this country is not only financially bankrupt, but morally bankrupt too.
The scenes of people celebrating anyones death are abhorrent to me - they are on a par with those of the muslim fanatics who did the same thing at Wooten Basset when our dead troops arrived home......they too had no compassion for the families who grieve....I was always told it was uncivilised and ill mannered to speak ill of the dead....that if you cannot say anything good, then hold your peace.
I celebrate my old fashioned, out moded ways.

I'm sorry if any of this offends the sensibilities of Accyweb members, because it seems like I am on my own here.

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I respect your opinion, but cannot agree with it. I had no love for the woman, but would not stoop to slight her in death.
There is no need for this bile fest. Her span of leadership lasted eleven and a half years...her life was 87 years.....so she spent something close to an eighth of her life in the public eye...serving the country. Surely she must be defined by her whole, not the small part the people wish to remember her for.

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She did such a good job you run your business from Where exactly?

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Oh so that makes it all Hunky Dory to you then?:rolleyes: Many innocent people in this country suffered very badly during her achievements, as has been posted on here years ago, we were living virtually in a Police State,Its typical of someone who was living in London at the time, to have no concept of what really was going on in the country.:rolleyes:

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Mog, I don't believe anyone is doubting the miners were not well trained. I visited a mine in Wales several years ago, you have my upmost respect for going down one.
If I remember rightly, all through the 1970's there was strike after strike, hampering our country. Edward Heath's government was brought down by the actions of unions.
Something had to be done, she may have gone too far, but that's what happens in life.
Speaking of miners, I see Arthur Scargill is still doing okay
Why Arthur Scargill is reluctant to leave his £1.5m Barbican flat | Politics | The Guardian

I believe the phrase is 'champagne socialist'

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Furthermore I cannot see how anybody is going to change their outpour to a respectful one when the funeral is going to cost 8 million.

How does it even cost 8 Million. Nuts

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Thanks Cashy :D

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All this hatred from somebody who was probably running round with dirty jeans on and jam round his mouth at the time:D

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One thing I do disagree with is the media circus that's started, BBC change normal programs on BBC1 at 4pm to a news special, whilst running the exact same program on the BBC News channel, they then altered the programing from 8-30pm to 10pm ITV Chanel 4 also changed the schedules, This morning I didn't switch BBC1 on until 9am and they where still on about her, looks like I'll be giving all news channels a miss until 2 weeks after the funeral, then it should be safe to go back in the water:mad:

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Ding dong the witch is dead
,nuff said

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Perhaps it wouldn't have been jam, it could have been milk?

On second thoughts it couldn't be, someone stole that off him whilst serving her apprenticeship.

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So she is percieved as the archetypal enemy of the working class - however, there are hundreds of thousands of people who have well paid jobs and a good number have freedom and we were not as sub-servient to the European would be dictators due to her efforts.
BAe is a classic example - she was reponsible for Al Yamamah which provided work for hundreds of thousands of people, a large proportion of whom and are in the North West, and still does.
She broke the stranglehold of the Communist led Unions - the miners and car workers in particular. Who gained - well Scargill certainly did, so who was to blame for the demise of coal mining in UK, was it MT or AS?
Traditional car manufacturers went to the wall - why? Could it have been outdated models, working practices and union militancy, but thanks to MT we got the Japanes manufacturers moving in and continuing to prosper.
So, like her or dislike her, surely there is no need to post the ugly, snide comments that have appeared on here. One thing is for sure, she won't give a dam what vitriol is posted about her, but would you wish your friends and relatives to read similar statements about you when you are gone?

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But were "All in this together":rolleyes: Her family is loaded, could understand the country paying if she was still P.M. This when the country is on its uppers,is ludicrous.:mad:

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Every penny well spent, it's a security measure.

When hell is full , the dead shall walk the earth

When that happens we don't want to give her a second chance of becoming a leader!

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Cashy, you are putting the words of David Cameron in Margaret Thatchers mouth......I don't recall her having said that at any time...though, like you, my memory is becoming rusty with advancing years.

This will be my final post to this thread.

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Well let's see she decimated the Coal Industry,closed the docks,sacked the Printers ,demolished the Steel Industry,sold us shares in companies we already owned and sold off the council houses.
A truly great legacy?

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Are you sure Margaret?
Could you not be tempted just to continue a little while longer?
After all, without your wise words how low could this thread really get?

We'll not tease you if you change your mind and continue, after all, Jaysays first post said it would be his last on the subject and he's posted 5 times without anyone extracting the urine about a Tory that can't keep his word!
:D

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I remember the 1970s and the 3 day week and the power cuts and some idiot who was the minister of energy being on the TV explaining to the common people of this land of mine. That you should save energy. He gave a great example to us by demonstrating that you should turn the lights off to save power, even whilst having a shave. Typical tory idiot was shaving with an electric razor plugged in.

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Being that the country is on its knees , and we are all in this together . Where is the £8,000,000 coming from to pay for this none state funeral ? I guess it is us the tax payer. I would rather this £8 million was spent on cancer treatments that patients are refused as it too expensive. No matter how bad this country is said to be ,money can be found when the reason suits .

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Ah yes, the 3 day week. Now why was that..... Well for those of us who are too blinkered to remember, the UK was in a mess, inflation was high and as a result the Government tried to cap Public Sector Pay, of course this did not go down well with the Unions, (just like the Civil Servants Pensions arn't going down well either...) so the National Union of Mineworkers, got their memebers to work to rule, causing sever shortages of power in the UK.
in the middle Heath lost the general election, then the rest of the 1970's we plauged by Strike after Strike, anyone remember the Winter of Discontent?
or even Callaghans 'Crisis what Crisis' comments...(To be fair I prefer Supertramps version).

Still its nice to see the Union Leaders did okay out of it, after4 all Arthurs still a hero....

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Why is it that every time a coal mine is mentioned Arthurs name comes up and also your version of events is not the same as mine. Then again I worked in the mines during this period so you would think that I would know a little bit more about it than you. You cannot Work to rule in a coal mine. The members of the NUM put an overtime ban on. Thats all. There is no law that says you are forced to do overtime. There are others who work in the mines who were not in the NUM. There were the mining officials that were in NACODS and there were the Managers ( By the way. I was one of them ) who were in BACM. Or do you want to tell me more about my profession.

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All loss making and heavily subsidised by the taxpayer. Unions were on the verge of bringing the country down by huge demands that the taxpayer could not afford.
When are some of the public going to realise that it is their next door neighbour who is paying the bill.
Dancing in the streets by young yobos who wer'nt even born when MT was in office does not impress anyone.:o

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Mog, I have the upmost brepect for your profession, it is somthing I could never have done.
I have no version of events, I was a child at the time of the 3 Day Week.

That said the country was in crisis, Inflation was going up January 1973, the Governement issued a White Paper on anti inflation.


In May 1.6 million workers staged a strike in support of the TUC's call for a 'day of national protest and stoppage' in protest at the Government's pay restraint policy and price rises. This action followed numerous strikes in the first few months of the New Year.

In November 1973, the menbers of the NUM started an Overtime Ban.

This caused a the Government to declare a state of emegency, due to the combined effects of action by Coal and electricity workers and also by the cut in Oil from the gulf states.

In December 1973, electricty was rationed to Industy, creating the 3 day week in the new year.

In January 1974 The National Coal Board offered the miners between 40p and 70p per week pay rise, this was rejected by the Pay Board.

The TUC meet the government at 10 Downing St but the NUM decided to continue the overtime ban.

Late January 1974, the Miner Leaders rejected a letter from the prime Minister to go back to work, carrying on the action.

Febuary 1974, the Miners Strike began.

The NUM now rejected a offer from industialists to pay between £1.50 to £2.00 per week on top of the NCB offer to all the miners.

March 174, the NUM reched a deal with the NCB after the new Labour Governement interviened. it cost £113 Million

July 1974 the pay board was abolished.

I may have missed bits out.

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Of course Cameron said it, Hes the man thats actually making the British Public pay fer this farce. You are putting wrong allegation at my door, I never said Thatcher said it. very unlike yeh that.

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If all I have done is to get you to rephrase your words, then I am happy. There is a massive difference between working to Rule and an Overtime ban. I shall also add that Coventry mine was one of the deapest in the country and also one of the hottest. When you entered the mine workings from the south side of the pit. The workmen had a supply of water pumped to them and also were given salt tablets. During the Overtime ban we had a massive underground fire and some of the pit lads stayed undergroung with me from Friday night at 21.00 until Sunday at 14.00 fighting the fire and extinguishing the same. All without pay due to the overtime ban. But they fought the fire to save the pit and keep it open.