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Yes, it is said that this two finger salute originated from the long bowmen at the battle of Agincourt.....to show the frenchies that they still had the fingers to draw back the bowstring.

Another thing about Jean Baker(Baroness Trumpington) she left school at the age of fifteen having passed no exams. I did the same. She was a beautiful and feisty young woman.

So, yes....she is someone to emulate.

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Ok I will be your female dog :rolleyes:

There are a few 95% posts but I think this is the one you wanted

Here are the others i found, to read them click the little blue arrow and it will take you to the post.

I think I have posted this before, you can see the tweets deleted my MP's on this site - this link is to our MP's deleted tweets http://www.politwoops.co.uk/p/ukmps/GrahamJones_MP

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That should read Jean Barker.....not Baker.

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not mine i was just refusing to play fetch i was busy...

ill probbably make more effort nearer to election day to compliment the many posts that will most likely appear telling us what a great chap he is and how he plans to sort things out:D

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Do you think they will be stupid enough to appear and start spouting the usual rubbish this time?

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I certainly dont, reckon the nerds on Twitter will get most of it.:D

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Yes, I do. They obviously think we haven't got the brains of a small retarded gnat.......and the memory of a demented goldfish.

They might try to wrap it up a bit different, but it will be the same old, same old tripe.

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aLL A LOAD OF SLIMEBALLS, Kinnock and wife creepy ,sneaky like all politicians,do not vote,withold your rights, this will show the real picture!

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if no body voted and the election was trashed do you think they would ..

A: see the errors of their ways and sort themselves out

or

B: see it as on opportunity to declare emergencey powers and run the country unanswerable to anyone

ok ok they are already unanswerable to anyone they guy who they are supposedly are answerable to is himself a criminal and tehif so its no wonder the MPs got away with the expences fiddles

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Not voting shows you can't be bothered or are to lazy to go and vote. Voting for a party that say they will sort out the problem is making your voice heard. Ok I know they may lie and not do what they said but at least you tried.

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in fairness the majority of our MPs should be in prison or at least out on TAG yet we vote and keep these crooks in power because there is no other system in place or alternative to fall back upon apart from anarchey that is

the only resource we have is to keep in place a bunch of criminals who take it upon themselves to tell us how to behave while breaking every law and moral code there is to be broken from backstabbing to paying rent boys to stuff oranges up tehir arse or wherever that tory MP had one stuffed when he was found dead

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By voting you give your consent to be governed by whichever political party wins.

When you disagree with the policies of all the parties, it is illogical to give any of them your consent.

Withdrawing your consent by not voting, is a valid way of dissenting.

If enough people refuse to consent to be governed, the political party which is declared the 'winner' can no longer claim to been granted 'consent to be governed'.

Consent of the governed - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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No it doesn't Neil. I go to the polling station at every election(I am not lazy or apathetic - I am realistic)...but will only vote for someone I believe will do the job they claim they can do.
If I get there and think that none of them are up to the job then this is what I write on my ballot paper.....'none of the above'

How is it making your voice heard if the parties do not listen to what the electorate tell them?
If the politicial parties disrespect the voters so much that they do not listen to the wishes of the country, then there is no democracy.
Democracy means being able to change something with your vote.....if that is not possible then how do you change things ?

You can vote until kingdom come, but it will not change anything if those we vote for disregard our wishes.

And before anyone tells me that people fought to give me the vote...I already know this, but maybe back then politicians were a little more honest, keener to do a good job, and less keen to fleece the taxpayer...who, by the way, are their employers.

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What a load of rubbish.

95% of people according to those surveyed by Populus don't put Europe as an important issue. That there was a case therefore for a referendum on a the issues the public rated more important. Sensible points.

I said I didn't bother about it. That I was easy on a referendum. You'll find Labour MPs for and Labour MPs against in their public comments. At the moment a vote came were in a euro zone crises and everyone agreed against a referendum. Common sense again given the circumstances.

I also said that we would vote to stay in. Latest opinion polls are confirming that with the dont knows moving to 'in'. Sky's recent poll was to stay in.

My own view - and your going to hate this - but every business bar one in Hyndburn I have spoken to is saying we must stay in.

As for calling Labour voters numpty's - bottom of the barrel stuff and undermines any argument put forward.

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Which post are you calling 'rubbish'?
You must meet with a vast number of different people to those that I come into contact with.
Many of my cohorts, friends and associates think that Europe and a referendum on our continuance in this vast corrupt organisation, is very important.
The people that I meet with do not think that there is any political will in any party to tackle the problems that being in the EU creates.
But you do not want to hear what the electorate think.....you deem us to be too dim to be able to evaluate the pros and cons of membership.
And that is arrogant!