Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1104136)

Often when statistic are being created the questions are phrased in such a way as to pre-empt the answer that the statistician wants...and of course it depends on who commissions the stats too.
You wouldn't want to be paying for a survey for it to reveal the opposite of what you wanted to show, would you? You might just as well burn your money.

As someone once said 'there are lies, damned lies and then there are statistics'(Mark Twain...I think)

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1104248)

Or, as John Diefenbaker said: Politicians use statistics like drunks use lamp posts, more for support than illumination (or something close to that). He also said that "Parliament is more than procedure; it is the custodian of the Nation's freedom." Something else that parliamentarians tend to forget.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1104238)

There will always be some sections that will produce reports like this.
While I do not believe they are numpties either.....I think they may be overstating things for whatever reasons.
No-one ever said that an exit from the EU would be easy.....it is better than the alternative.
We have been bamboozled.....we have money extracted from us to prop up an experimental currency exercise. We have had legislation thrown at us. All from a bunch of unelected bureaucrats who cannot be sacked, in an organisation which is rife with corruption.

Why didn't we just hand over the keys in 1939.......? Save all those wasted lives.
I'm glad my father isn't here now to see how things have panned out.

If the EU was a business( which is how it was sold to us) would you invest in it knowing that no budget has passed scrutiny for almost two decades?
It is just a good job that we were not dragged into the single currency.....the only thing we can thank Gordon Brown for.
I do not identify with Europe, or anything European.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1104277)

And we, the population are supposed to forget all this skulduggery.....this fraudulent behaviour. We are supposed to trust these people who have not only let us down, but sold us down the river.
We are supposed to believe the guff that they feed us about the motives and intentions of the EU.
These men could not lie straight in bed.
It puts my blood pressure up just thinking about it!

Originally Posted by Lucysgirl (Post 1104281)

I loath cheats and liars. I've found that my voice reacts dramatically whenever I discover a dastardly deed in that it can rise above its normal mezzo-soprano level up through the soprano range until it reaches beyond the coloratura soprano high notes to screech level. :hothothot

Originally Posted by Lucysgirl (Post 1104281)

I loath cheats and liars. I've found that my voice reacts dramatically whenever I discover a dastardly deed in that it can rise above its normal mezzo-soprano level up through the soprano range until it reaches beyond the coloratura soprano high notes to screech level. :hothothot

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1104284)

You know, I really do think we must have been separated at birth!:)

Originally Posted by jack preston (Post 1104303)

To get back to the original topic,what about slimeball Jack Straws son standing for Rossendale,