Artificial Intelligence

[RainbowSix]

My jobs safe from AI, unless it can pick up a screwdriver

[Margaret Pilkington]

I am not sure any job will be safe from AI.
Aren’t, robots programmed using AI?
Artificially intelligence is something that can be incorporated into many aspects of our life….as such it should be considered something of a threat.
Maybe AI has attributes that COULD be used for good, but it also has many more that could harm us.(that is just my opinion on how I see it at present)

Restless you asked ChatGPT to interpret lyrics of a song and it did, but it did not tell you anything that you did not already know….so it added nothing to your knowledge.All it did was spit out the obvious.

[Lost in Cornwall]

My younger son is retraining as a Primary school teacher. He was saying last week that, in spite of signing a disclosure at the beginning of the course to say that they would not use AI, a number of the younger students are openly saying that they use it in their essays and some of the older ones are saying that they use it to collect the information they need but then rewriting it so that they can pass it off as their own work. I worry about what this means ffor children in the future if those teaching them can't be bothered to out the necessary work in.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Microsoft has just done a bigging up of their involvement in AI in education.
If you want to lose 45 minutes of your life you can see what they are on about have a look here.



Much of this is Microsoft patting themselves on the back.
I am largely suspicious of how AI will be used…in spite of reassurances.

[Restless]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I am not sure any job will be safe from AI.
Aren’t, robots programmed using AI?
Artificially intelligence is something that can be incorporated into many aspects of our life….as such it should be considered something of a threat.
Maybe AI has attributes that COULD be used for good, but it also has many more that could harm us.(that is just my opinion on how I see it at present)

Restless you asked ChatGPT to interpret lyrics of a song and it did, but it did not tell you anything that you did not already know….so it added nothing to your knowledge.All it did was spit out the obvious.

Yes. It did spit out the obvious and I am not sure if you're actually downplaying the significance of deciphered the meaning. The ai stuff is in its early days. I think it is pretty impressive

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[Margaret Pilkington]

Maybe I am too suspicious of it to be impressed.
Yes it is early days and now is the time that the foreseen dangers should be addressed.
It might have the potential to do good, but I also see in it the potential for harm….well unless moves are made to check how it can be used.

[Restless]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Maybe I am too suspicious of it to be impressed.
Yes it is early days and now is the time that the foreseen dangers should be addressed.
It might have the potential to do good, but I also see in it the potential for harm….well unless moves are made to check how it can be used.

I think works of fiction have a lot to answer for regarding suspicions and misgivings towards ai.

The danger is not with AI in my opinion but with AI misused by the worst of humanity.

My concerns at this time are using ai programs for scamming and entrapment.

If I had enough of your voice I could(in theory) make a recording of your stating something out of character.

I don't know if you have heard ai cover versions of songs. For example people have created data sets of Kurt cobain from stems of tracks and with that access to that dataset I could make Kurt Cobain sing any song you like. The results are varied. Some are very convincing.

As time will go by with enough data on someone. Fake video footage could be generated. I've seen it already with Elon musk scams

The true worry always has been humans and their capability for harm

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[Margaret Pilkington]

Rob I do not read the kind of fiction that would be influenced by AI….tudor history doesn’t really feature AI.

I have had a phone call several times recently. It does not sound like a robotic voice.it sounds like a real person.
He is named variously Mark, Martin, Matthew and says he is working for an energy firm


and their team is fitting roof insulation in our area….(the voice is the same regardless of the name) he asks me what sort of roof insulation we have. In the past I told him the normal fibre glass…but after a few of these samey calls I decided I would say something ridiculous just to see if this was a real person.
So the last time when he asked that question I said ‘elephants’.
A totally daft answer that would have provoked a different response to the one I got, which was ‘oh OK…so would you like a free no obligation estimate from one of our team?’

Now I do not know if this was AI or some other kind of computer algorithm, but it definitely was not human.

And yes, you do recognise that AI can be used by the worst of humanity…but then a lot of those are in positions of power in huge organisations.

AI learns….and it maybe that we cannot accurately or efficiently regulate WHAT it learns.
Scamming and entrapment might be the least of our worries when considering AI
So I think I will retain my healthy level of suspicion.

[Restless]

I don't think one necessarily has to read and watch this type of fiction to be affected by it.



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[Restless]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Rob I do not read the kind of fiction that would be influenced by AI….tudor history doesn’t really feature AI.

I have had a phone call several times recently. It does not sound like a robotic voice.it sounds like a real person.
He is named variously Mark, Martin, Matthew and says he is working for an energy firm


and their team is fitting roof insulation in our area….(the voice is the same regardless of the name) he asks me what sort of roof insulation we have. In the past I told him the normal fibre glass…but after a few of these samey calls I decided I would say something ridiculous just to see if this was a real person.
So the last time when he asked that question I said ‘elephants’.
A totally daft answer that would have provoked a different response to the one I got, which was ‘oh OK…so would you like a free no obligation estimate from one of our team?’

Now I do not know if this was AI or some other kind of computer algorithm, but it definitely was not human.

And yes, you do recognise that AI can be used by the worst of humanity…but then a lot of those are in positions of power in huge organisations.

AI learns….and it maybe that we cannot accurately or efficiently regulate WHAT it learns.
Scamming and entrapment might be the least of our worries when considering AI
So I think I will retain my healthy level of suspicion.

Oh and I thought you read mills and boon

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[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by Restless

I decided to get chat gpt to interpret one of my songs "the road"

The lyrics you provided seem to express a journey of struggle with addiction, recovery, and the desire to protect someone else from going down the same destructive path. Here's an interpretation based on the themes presented:

The speaker reflects on their own experiences of being trapped in addiction ("I've been down that road way too many times, I've been on that road for way too long"). They acknowledge that for some people, there seems to be no way out ("For some there is no escape"). The speaker then expresses concern for someone they care about, perhaps a younger person ("And now I am afraid for you little one").

The allure of addiction is described as deceptive ("They say that road is oh so attractive, It's all fluorescent lights"). The speaker warns that appearances can be deceiving, as addiction can lead to a destructive cycle of dependency ("They lie to your eyes, You'll learn to love the need, For the drink and the drugs, To light your way through the nights").

Having gone through recovery ("Now that I'm clean"), the speaker acknowledges that outwardly, they may appear to have overcome their addiction ("From what can be seen"). However, they also recognize that there are internal scars and struggles that remain ("But honey you should see, The dirt on the inside"). Despite this, the speaker wants to offer hope and reassurance to the person they care about ("If I could wipe the slate clean, I could show you, You no longer have to be afraid, Of living alone").

Overall, these lyrics convey the challenges of addiction, the deceptive nature of its allure, the difficulties of recovery, and the desire to protect others from experiencing similar hardships.



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Have you seen the sci-fi film called The Road...about a father and his son after an apocalypse in America!?

[Margaret Pilkington]

No Rob I like historical fiction and I think I have read everything Phillips Gregory has written…and Jean Plaidy.
I take issue with your point that you can’t be affected unless you read the kind of stuff that features AI.
I think AI will be detrimental to creativity, to education…it stops people from thinking for themselves…and there appears already to be a lack of critical thought and analysis.
If we let AI tell us what IT thinks something means(like those lyrics) then we run the risk of becoming ‘thought lazy’.
I am just saying what my thoughts and opinions are…but of course everyone is free to choose how they see this issue.

[Restless]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

No Rob I like historical fiction and I think I have read everything Phillips Gregory has written…and Jean Plaidy.
I take issue with your point that you can’t be affected unless you read the kind of stuff that features AI.
I think AI will be detrimental to creativity, to education…it stops people from thinking for themselves…and there appears already to be a lack of critical thought and analysis.
If we let AI tell us what IT thinks something means(like those lyrics) then we run the risk of becoming ‘thought lazy’.
I am just saying what my thoughts and opinions are…but of course everyone is free to choose how they see this issue.

I didn't say you can't be affected.

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[Restless]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

Have you seen the sci-fi film called The Road...about a father and his son after an apocalypse in America!?

Ive read the book prior to watching the film. The film is a pretty good adaptation. I wouldn't call it scifi though

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[Margaret Pilkington]

No you didn’t…but that was the gist of the comment.
So how do you consider that I am influenced by it Rob?
This is a genuine question…it is not a criticism of your comment.