Beagle dog stabbed to death - This is sick - Page 3

garinda · 04-02-2011, 15:34

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Originally Posted by katex

Your replies to this thread surprise me Garinda, the above is different ... they are vermin. It is noted though that kids that pulls wings off flies are showing early signs of cruelty. As to the wasps, yes, I spray them because they scare me and treat it as a form of defence before they get me...

Could you actually do this to someone's pet ? I feel sure you wouldn't, you are a kind person. They are accepted as part of a family and well loved. The 'killer' obviously had no thought for other people's heartbreak. I agree with the R.S.P.C.A. comment that it could lead later to attacking a human being as obviously was some sort of big kick to them, and would look for something more satisfying.

It is a criminal offence too.

First off there seems very little actual evidence that this poor dog was stabbed.

Secondly, even if it was, this does not mean there's a would be serial killer wandering the streets of the town with a knife, as Giddy Gertie posted.

Thirdly, this area has no greater share than anywhere else, when it comes to sickos, and to use it as a good reason to justify leaving the area, is ludicrous.

Lastly, as usual our local reporters prefer sensationalism, rather than good journalism.

No mention as to who owned, and was responsible for it's care.

No medical evidence given that it was stabbed, rather than attacked by another animal. Which the R.S.P.A. officer initially thought it had been.

No mention where the dog lived, and the distance from where it was found.

No mention of a vet's pathology report.

Just hysteria. Which is mirrored in this thread.

As stated, this animal suffered a terrible death.

At this point everything else is just wild conjecture.

Give me facts any day, rather than hyperventiled scaremongering.

Less · 04-02-2011, 15:50

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Originally Posted by garinda

Give me facts any day, rather than hyperventiled scaremongering.

Absolutely, I'm sick and tired of folk claiming things have happened with no proof (or worse with blarney, can get the site into trouble), but worse than that expecting us all to believe them.

Given facts we deal with them.

Given rumour we panic.

katex · 04-02-2011, 15:51

Irrelevant of the newspaper's report ... you were negating the viciousness of this crime, and to someone's remark about leaving the area and other area's being just as bad does not make it any less of a crime.

Have you read the Telegraph report ? Does say belonged to a couple who had just rescued it from the Altham Animal Centre. The initial remark of fighting was just an observation before being able to inspect the dog ... the R.S.P.C.A do have vets working with them, and sure a thorough pathology report was prepared.

This person has to be caught (whoever it was) before he/she strikes again.

DaveinGermany · 04-02-2011, 15:55

News article, confirming the attack on the Dog with a Knife. It was in September last year.

Beagle dog stabbed 18 times and dumped in Accrington pond in brutal killing | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk

garinda · 04-02-2011, 15:55

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Originally Posted by Less

Given rumour we panic.

...and I get acerbic, apparently.

Which I think is Canadian for nastily sour.

He posted, acerb...

Whoops.

garinda · 04-02-2011, 16:02

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

News article, confirming the attack on the Dog with a Knife. It was in September last year.

Beagle dog stabbed 18 times and dumped in Accrington pond in brutal killing | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk

That's the shoddy report we've all read, as well as in the LT.

Care to post where there's medical evidence that they are stab wounds?

Rather than the thoughts of someone not trained in veterinary pathology, who at first thought he poor dog was attacked by another dog.

garinda · 04-02-2011, 16:09

'discovered by dog walkers hours after its death'

'died between 3.30 and 9.45 on the morning of Saturday, September 25.'

Beagle dog stabbed 18 times and dumped in Accrington pond in brutal killing | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk

Wow, bang up to date news.

Though the report doesn't actually say which September.

Knowing the cutting edge sleuths employed by the Observer, it could very well be 1974.

Top clas journalism.

Like having our own little Washington Post.

Should be up for a Pulitzer prize.

Less · 04-02-2011, 16:15

Leave 1974 alone it was one of my good years, ( apart from haircuts, shirts, flaired jeans and bad taste in general, well, like this post).

DaveinGermany · 04-02-2011, 16:16

Can't give you absolutes as there isn't a copy of the Vet/examiners report, but reading what is written :-

It was first thought he was killed in a barbaric dog fight, but post-mortem results showed no evidence of fighting.

The stab wounds were pretty much all over - the abdomen, chest, neck and jaw. The dog would have struggled like crazy to get away.

The presumption by the RSPCA officer of it being bites was just that, a first assumption. "Post Mortem results" Would infer that the vet/examiner had seen the injuries & confirmed them as stab wounds which is then stated in the article.

garinda · 04-02-2011, 16:17

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Originally Posted by katex

Irrelevant of the newspaper's report ... you were negating the viciousness of this crime

Absolute rubbish!

Again, provide some facts to back up that inaccurate claim.

Please quote where I have done that.

I have only refered to this poor animal's death as being horrific.

I've merely pointed out the lack of medical evidence as to how it was attacked, and the shoddy way in which it was reported.

Eric · 04-02-2011, 16:23

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Originally Posted by garinda

...and I get acerbic, apparently.

Which I think is Canadian for nastily sour.

He posted, acerb...

Whoops.

Nah ... Canadian for "nastily sour" is "nastily sour, eh"

Maybe "trenchant" (0r "trenchant, eh") ... mmm.

garinda · 04-02-2011, 16:24

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Can't give you absolutes as there isn't a copy of the Vet/examiners report, but reading what is written :-

It was first thought he was killed in a barbaric dog fight, but post-mortem results showed no evidence of fighting.

The stab wounds were pretty much all over - the abdomen, chest, neck and jaw. The dog would have struggled like crazy to get away.

The presumption by the RSPCA officer of it being bites was just that, a first assumption. "Post Mortem results" Would infer that the vet/examiner had seen the injuries & confirmed them as stab wounds which is then stated in the article.

I only deal in absolutes.

No.

I've changed ny mind.

SERIAL KILLER!

Run! Run!

I'm out of here!

katex · 04-02-2011, 16:24

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Originally Posted by garinda

Absolute rubbish!

Again, provide some facts to back up that inaccurate claim.

Please quote where I have done that.

I have only refered to this poor animal's death as being horrific.

I've merely pointed out the lack of medical evidence as to how it was attacked, and the shoddy way in which it was reported.

Ok ... but does come across that you were more concerned with the newspaper's 'sloppy' report than the thread poster's concern for this 'horrific incident'.

garinda · 04-02-2011, 16:31

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Originally Posted by Eric

Nah ... Canadian for "nastily sour" is "nastily sour, eh"

Maybe "trenchant" (0r "trenchant, eh") ... mmm.

Trenchant I like.

(I actually liked acerbic.)

Trenchant means I won't need to buy anymore caustic soda.

I can merely make cutting remarks at my poor drains.

Bless 'em.

Less · 04-02-2011, 16:33

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Originally Posted by katex

Ok ... but does come across that you were more concerned with the newspaper's 'sloppy' report than the thread poster's concern for this 'horrific incident'.

Oh, yawn,

Your interpretation.

Get real, rather than phoney 'holier than thou'.