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[garinda]

I know someone who lost their job, after being laid off, shortly after it was revealed he had an incurable, degenerative illness, and who committed suicide, after trying to access any social benefits associated with his disability.

Perhaps one of the fraudters, who apparently find the system so easy to cheat, could write a guide book, for all those genuinely in need, and who find the whole process nigh on impossible to fathom.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by garinda

That's nothing to do with disability benefits.

That's fraud.

No different from defrauding the Inland Revenue, or one of the many other ways people try to cheat the system.

Yes it is but you can bet she was/is not the only one doing it.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Neil

I think it depends on why they are issued.

I know a bloke whose girlfriend got a nice new car on disability a few years ago because her doctor said she could only walk short distances, funny how she was doing her pub training so they could run their own pub together. Not much walking involved in running a bar is there

To qualify for that, you don't just pop to your G.P., and get them to write a note, after telling them you can't walk.

She would have had to fill in a detailed 40 page questionaire, and then subit it.

70% of first time claims aren't approved, but you are allowed to appeal.

On appeal you are examined by an independent medical board, which she will have had to convince that what she stated on the application, about her physical disability was true.

She must have been found to be severely disabled, and awarded the higher level of mobility benefit, in order to qualify for her having the car.

Forget running a pub. Tell her to consider the stage.

After telling her she's a fraudster.

Who's not only cheated the tax payer, but every genuine person who struggle to get the benefits they are by rights entitled to.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Neil

Yes it is but you can bet she was/is not the only one doing it.

True, doesn't make it right.

Should we stop all social benefits, child allowance, tax credits, maternity benefits etc, because there'll always be some scum, who find a way to defraud the system?

Thousands cheat the I.R. daily, by doing cash in hand foreigners.

Should we stop paying tax?

[Margaret Pilkington]

there is a story in the paper today about a couple who were trying to live on £57 per week....she was mentally handicapped, illiterate and uemployable because of her mental handicap...she had been refused the disability living allownace, and because of this her husband could not claim carers allowance...they had a 12 year old daughter who has now been taken from them and she had lost the child benefit.......the couple committed suicide because they could not face the winter and the hardship of living on £57 per week.

How can this happen when we let people who have no allegiance to the country come in and claim a whole raft of benefits?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-poverty.html

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by garinda

Thousands cheat the I.R. daily, by doing cash in hand foreigners.

Not only that, we have companies who make vast profits who fail to pay their dues and taxes.

[garinda]

I've come into contact with many people, some of which have lost their homes, seen their relationships disintegrate, and the one I know, mentioned previously, who took his own life, all through the stress involved of trying to access benefits, which by rights they should be entitled to, as well as them having paid to fund them, up until falling ill.

These aren't people a bit depressed, or with a sore back.

They've been medically diagnosed as having an incurable, degenerative disease, yet who still struggle greatly to access social benefits.

Like I said. The fraudsters, who find the system so easy to cheat, just write a book, to help those who are genuine, but who find the system a nightmare.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Not only that, we have companies who make vast profits who fail to pay their dues and taxes.

That's not cheating though.



That's being fortunate enough to have access to teams skilled in some very creative accountancy.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by garinda

That's not cheating though

Can't be.

Otherwise some of our government politicans wouldn't be doing it.

[shillelagh]

Originally Posted by garinda

Stab at humour?

Sarcasm, seeing I'm supposedly disabled too?

You saying that, makes me think you're hurt again?

Really hope not. x

1 cracking black eye, swollen cheek, sore knee and bruised and sore elbow the bruising just coming out now ...

[garinda]

Originally Posted by shillelagh

1 cracking black eye, swollen cheek, sore knee and bruised and sore elbow the bruising just coming out now ...

Oh hun.



Sorry. x

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Not only that, we have companies who make vast profits who fail to pay their dues and taxes.

Careful, hon ... if you keep on thinking like this, you might end up spending the winter in a tent in Barnes Square as part of "Occupy Clayton (Bottom End)"

[Margaret Pilkington]

Eric, I don't think there is any mileage in occupying Barnes Square...we don't get the Archbishop of Canterbury taking much interest in bottom end matters(Take that any way you want - there is a joke there somewhere)

[Margaret Pilkington]

I can't honestly see Sky TV taking any interest either.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Eric, I don't think there is any mileage in occupying Barnes Square...we don't get the Archbishop of Canterbury taking much interest in bottom end matters(Take that any way you want - there is a joke there somewhere)