Ex-Mayor in charity storm. - Page 3

ChrisMG · 07-06-2008, 08:54

I think I get it now.
He raised say 10 to 12 thousand pounds through conventional fundraising as per all previous mayors. No problem there.
He then encouraged other bodies to donate their fundraising into his 'pot' to make his fundraising look more impressive. He then gave them the money back with 10% out of the funds he had raised.
Therefore in reality he only raised 10 - 12 k and gave it to the charities who collaborated in the scheme.
It's an absolutely scandalous way of trying to mislead people!

At the end of the day he did not raise 90k!

MargaretR · 07-06-2008, 09:11

I suppose he will justify what he did by saying that this inspired those charities to raise more so that the 10% would be bigger.

jaysay · 07-06-2008, 09:33

Myself I can't think why it was front page leader in our local paper, seems like a none story to me

garinda · 07-06-2008, 10:12

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Myself I can't think why it was front page leader in our local paper, seems like a none story to me

Perhaps fellow Tory Councillor, Doug Hayes, and his vitriolic quotes made it a front page story.

katex · 07-06-2008, 10:36

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Myself I can't think why it was front page leader in our local paper, seems like a none story to me

See you have added a similar comment on the Observer's web site Jaysay .. wonder if it will get printed next week .. they now do this under 'What's been said on the Web' ...

Are we saying that the charities that donated funds to the Mayor's fund and then returned, then became the nominated charities ? Just seen Gayle's assumption too sorry .. just taking a while to sink in.

Think the Observer may just explain it a little better next week .. can live in hope.

Just noticed the Observer running a poll as to whether you approve of the Mayor's unorthodox ways of raising this money.

Yes .. 18%
No ... 82%

Mind you, might be only a few people here, like Jaysay and Cllr. Britcliffe, Mrs Dobson 'Yes'
Cllr Jones, Doug Hayes, Mrs Hayes, new Mayor.

Ok not quite proportional, but sure you understand what I am trying to say..

jaysay · 07-06-2008, 11:04

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Originally Posted by katex

See you have added a similar comment on the Observer's web site Jaysay .. wonder if it will get printed next week .. they now do this under 'What's been said on the Web' ...

Are we saying that the charities that donated funds to the Mayor's fund and then returned, then became the nominated charities ? Just seen Gayle's assumption too sorry .. just taking a while to sink in.

Think the Observer may just explain it a little better next week .. can live in hope.

Just noticed the Observer running a poll as to whether you approve of the Mayor's unorthodox ways of raising this money.

Yes .. 18%
No ... 82%

Mind you, might be only a few people here, like Jaysay and Cllr. Britcliffe, Mrs Dobson 'Yes'
Cllr Jones, Doug Hayes, Mrs Hayes, new Mayor.

Ok not quite proportional, but sure you understand what I am trying to say..

errr no kate, as far as I can see, its just that TD desided to do things different, in fact I spoke to Tony at lenghth yesterday, and he told me that before he embarked on this way of fund raising he checked everything out to make sure he was not bracking any rules, I hope to be seeing Doug Hayes over he weekend and will get his slant on things

katex · 07-06-2008, 11:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay

errr no kate, as far as I can see, its just that TD desided to do things different, in fact I spoke to Tony at lenghth yesterday, and he told me that before he embarked on this way of fund raising he checked everything out to make sure he was not bracking any rules, I hope to be seeing Doug Hayes over he weekend and will get his slant on things

Sorry Jaysay, what are you saying 'errr no' to ?

Not saying he was breaking any rules, we are just trying to understand it all.

Gayle · 07-06-2008, 11:50

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Originally Posted by katex

Are we saying that the charities that donated funds to the Mayor's fund and then returned, then became the nominated charities ? Just seen Gayle's assumption too sorry .. just taking a while to sink in.

Yes, must stress that I don't understand, I was only trying to make a guess at how things had worked.

Jaysay, do you know Tony's nominated charities this year? Might just clarify things.

lancsdave · 07-06-2008, 11:55

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Originally Posted by katex

Just noticed the Observer running a poll as to whether you approve of the Mayor's unorthodox ways of raising this money.

Yes .. 18%
No ... 82%

Mind you, might be only a few people here, like Jaysay and Cllr. Britcliffe, Mrs Dobson 'Yes'
Cllr Jones, Doug Hayes, Mrs Hayes, new Mayor.

Ok not quite proportional, but sure you understand what I am trying to say..

Surely you are not suggesting people only vote according to the colour of the rosette whether it's right or wrong. That would never happen in this country

jaysay · 07-06-2008, 12:01

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Originally Posted by Gayle

Yes, must stress that I don't understand, I was only trying to make a guess at how things had worked.

Jaysay, do you know Tony's nominated charities this year? Might just clarify things.

Sorry Gayle, just rung him and its just going to answer, but will try to find out

jaysay · 07-06-2008, 12:04

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

Surely you are not suggesting people only vote according to the colour of the rosette whether it's right or wrong. That would never happen in this country

Well dave I have known this to happen on the odd occasion, but its very rare

katex · 07-06-2008, 12:13

Surely, his party members must have known about this throughout his Mayoral year ... as he did checks to see if illegal and would surely consult the Council? However, does read that Graham Jones does appears to have known about this just lately. ...

Gayle · 07-06-2008, 12:21

And it would appear from the report that Cllr Britcliffe has only just found out about it too.

I've had a trawl around HBC website to find out who the charity money is going to, you'd think the info would be on there, but can't find anything. Pam's money this year is going to the local branch of Macmillan Nurses - I found that.

Thanks for ringing him Jaysay. I'd have asked him myself but I haven't seen him in the playground all week.

He's definitely not had a good Mayoral year - what with the controversy over the banners when he started, the fiasco with the rolling four sixes and now this - can't see him being selected as the Tory candidate for the next election on the strength of all that.

katex · 07-06-2008, 12:57

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Sorry Gayle, just rung him and its just going to answer, but will try to find out

Perhaps, when you speak to him again, you could try and persuade Cllr. Dobson to come on our site and explain from 'the horses mouth'. After all does get lots of viewings (404 up to now .. ok some repeats probably), but does have quite a wide audience.

jaysay · 07-06-2008, 13:31

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Originally Posted by katex

Perhaps, when you speak to him again, you could try and persuade Cllr. Dobson to come on our site and explain from 'the horses mouth'. After all does get lots of viewings (404 up to now .. ok some repeats probably), but does have quite a wide audience.

I'm not sure he's on the internet kate, as I had to check something out fo him yesterday, but I could be wrong