St George's Day - Page 5

Ken Moss · 20-04-2010, 10:16

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Originally Posted by garinda

I personally think that as a nation we don't make a big song and dance about patriotism because we share a national feeling of supriority over Johnny foreigner.

There's more of a need for those peoples who feel downtrodden, to celebrate their patron Saints' day. As seen in Ireland, Scotland, France etc.

I don't need some Palestinian, beatified by the Catholic church, and shared with Ethipoia, Greece, Lithuania, Russia, Georgia, Portugal etc., to be happy and to have been born English.

Racist!

Wynonie Harris · 20-04-2010, 10:17

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

We have thousands of years of history and every misdemeanour that we've ever made is being apologised for. I'm just waiting for the apology to France for Nelson's little victory.

Now, what apologies have we had over the last few years?...oh I remember, we've had Gordon Brown apologising over the child migrants to Australia affair...oh yes, and then there was Tony Blair expressing his sorrow over the slave trade and apologising over the Irish potato famine.

Bet you wouldn't be seen dead in any party they were leaders of.

flashy · 20-04-2010, 10:17

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Racist!

muppet

Ken Moss · 20-04-2010, 10:20

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Now, what apologies have we had over the last few years?...oh I remember, we've had Gordon Brown apologising over the child migrants to Australia affair...oh yes, and then there was Tony Blair expressing his sorrow over the slave trade and apologising over the Irish potato famine.

Bet you wouldn't be seen dead in any party they were leaders of.

Touche, Mr Harris....

garinda · 20-04-2010, 10:22

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Racist!

I'm a 'regionalist', being proud of being a northerner.

SamF · 20-04-2010, 12:29

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St. George was born in Blackburn Royal Infirmary; enlisted in an apprenticeship at Howard and Bulloughs; and achieved sainthood by refusing a move to Yorkshire.

Eric, you are responsible for me getting a lot of funny looks for bursting out laughing in the lab I'm currently skiving. Bloody brilliant

Eric · 20-04-2010, 19:05

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Originally Posted by steeljack

Any one know if any other developed westernised "countries" apart from the 4 UK provinces celebrate a National Saints day , seems a bit odd a 'protestant' country celebrating the mumbo-jumbo ritualism of the Catholic Church.
Can understand the Irish,(and all their superstitions) but the Welsh Methodists and the Scottish Kirk having Saints think is going a bit far

Quebec: St Jean Baptiste day. La Fete nationale de Quebec. It's on June 24.

Barrie Yates · 20-04-2010, 20:27

Fete Nationale - Bastille Day is clebrated all over France for the storming of the Bastille, 7 prisoners were released. Haven't seen much celebration on St Denis day - the patron saint of France.

Mancie · 20-04-2010, 21:23

Maybe there is a lack of celebrations for St Georges day.. but it's not as if there has been countrywide celebrations in the past.. can't recall any in the 60's 70's 80' 90's or ever (unless I missed them), to say it's all down to the "PC" brigade or some sort of lack of patriotism is rubbish.

cashman · 20-04-2010, 21:28

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Maybe there is a lack of celebrations for St Georges day.. but it's not as if there has been countrywide celebrations in the past.. can't recall any in the 60's 70's 80' 90's or ever (unless I missed them), to say it's all down to the "PC" brigade or some sort of lack of patriotism is rubbish.

true never was a big deal, st paddys though was always a good excuse.

Wynonie Harris · 20-04-2010, 21:49

Personally, I think there's something a bit un-English about making a big song and dance over St George's Day. Better to leave all that flag waving and marching to those excitable foreigners.

cashman · 20-04-2010, 21:51

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Personally, I think there's something a bit un-English about making a big song and dance over St George's Day. Better to leave all that flag waving and marching to those excitable foreigners.

or give it to the dingles, they could do wi summat to celebrate.

Mancie · 20-04-2010, 21:59

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Personally, I think there's something a bit un-English about making a big song and dance over St George's Day. Better to leave all that flag waving and marching to those excitable foreigners.

Quite right no need..it would only make Johnny foreigner feel even more insecure.

DaveinGermany · 21-04-2010, 07:24

True, true, both Mancie & Wyn make valid points about the British reserve & not making a big thing over our special days/events especially the English. But in the present day & environment it is more to do with the overbearing pressure applied by local Councils & unelected bodies who claim offence on behalf of the "Perceived Offended", that more patriotism & National pride isn't so widely displayed (Flying the St.George flag, not overly flambouyant & a subtle reminder we're English).

Unfortunately the above has more to do with our lack of National Pride than the more typically perceived Great British reserve.

Wynonie Harris · 21-04-2010, 07:54

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

But in the present day & environment it is more to do with the overbearing pressure applied by local Councils & unelected bodies who claim offence on behalf of the "Perceived Offended", that more patriotism & National pride isn't so widely displayed (Flying the St.George flag, not overly flambouyant & a subtle reminder we're English).

Unfortunately the above has more to do with our lack of National Pride than the more typically perceived Great British reserve.

I'm with Mancie on this; Seems to me St Georges Day is celebrated far more widely now than it ever was in the supposedly pre-PC days. They're having a St Georges Day parade and street market in front of the town hall in Labour-run Manchester next weekend. Not much "overbearing pressure" there, then.