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Going out drinking with Mr Walker. You're where braver than me.

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Had many many Drinks with Johnny over the years, ive just about lived to tell the tale!!...Just as well they didn't give him free beer for the night...they'd have gone bust!! A Drinking ....and Eating Legend!!


Best Regards - Taggy

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You should get one of those tea shirts printed, I drank with Johnny Walker and lived to tell the tale.

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Lol!....Be proud to wear it Bernard!!;)

Best Regards - Taggy

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the castle pub may be grubby now but when john and marie whittam were there it certainly was not they ran the castle for 17years and the brewery during that time scale would not have allowed them stay so long if they were not satified with the running of the pub

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You went drinking with Johnny? Even I'd have found it difficult keeping up with him, even when I was at the top of my game, supping-wise!

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Oh aye, many times actually, even went on Pub trip to Spain with him a couple of times!!...He was known as "Mr Whisky" there!! Lol!... We always met up on 31st July too, as it was both our Birthdays!.....I dont have too many memories of 1st August tho!!:D

Best Regards - Taggy

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Went to the Park Inn on my 18th Birthday... told Dennis the Landlord it's mi 18th so he pulls me a pint..I was being abit cocky cos I'd already been drinking there for a couple of years.. Dennis looks up winks and say's "do you think I didn't know?" :D

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Johnny was a proper drinker, bet he would have fitted in with the Railway research team:rolleyes: or maybe not:D

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You didn't get much past Dennis Mancie, he was the original wily old bird was our Denbo:D

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Top geezer Denbo, worked fer him quite a bit when he had ossy con.;)

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Ossy Con:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::e ek::eek::eek::eek::eek::rolleyes:

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I once went in Barnes St. chippy with the late Mr. Walker after a pint in the Kings, I ordered fish and chips, John had fish, chips and peas with a steak pudding on top. When we went to the counter to pay John ordered fish and chips to take out. "Those for your dad?" I asked. "No" said John, "They're to eat on the way home."

He never used to take milk in tea or coffee and told a story of a pub/club ride-out. They arrived at the breakfast stop and he had cornflakes with a pint of mild in place of the milk.

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Ah yes, Barnes St Chippy...that was Johnnys favourite ever Chippy, he used to read copies of the Sports Pink in there, to find out scores of cricket matches he had actually been too....mostly in the Bar of course!! Lol!

On the Chippy front...David Lloyd once told the story that he saw JW sat on a wall eating Fish, Chips n Peas with a Pudding on top. He asked JW why he was eating them there, because he only lived a few mins walk away, JW replied " If i take these in i wont get any supper"!!

Mind you David Lloyd has also used that story, about Jack Simmons too, in fact that very delicacy was actually called a "Simmo" in Clayton St Chippy in Gt Harwood for some years!

Would certainly have been an interesting contest of trenchermen between JW and JavaScript, but i know who i'd have backed on the drinking front!!

Best Regards - Taggy

PS your right about the milk...he didn't like it....nor butter either, couldn't stand it on his Muffins!!....He did like Pepper on Strawberries though!!!

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Ya that sounds like the Johnny we all knew and loved:D

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Talking about Johnny, he was a great mate of the late Chris Metcalf, a former Lancs League Umpire, they used to do lots of travelling watching Lancashire play in the county championship, the tails Chris used to tell us after he returned from one of these trips was hilarious:D

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Not much of the tales would involve cricket Jaysay!!! Lol!


Best Regards - Taggy

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Jack Whitham was a top bloke. He used to let us go in The Castle when we were about 15. He would only serve us soft drinks and only allowed us in the tap-room. He said at least we weren't wandering the streets creating havoc and that way he could keep an eye on us.

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I'll have you know Johnnie was a cricket conciser Taggy:rolleyes::eek::D

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mine was in the tinker in ossy when they lock the doors in them days lol but now the pubs are open all day now.

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A Bar Room Barracker was our Johnny!!! Lol!

Best Regards - Taggy

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Think it was Rule 1 Johnny's always right rule 2, if its ever proved that Johnny's wrong rule 1 applies:rolleyes:

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LOL!!!....Spot on that Jaysay!!....You could certainly never accuse him of "sitting on the fence" could ya!!:D


Best Regards - Taggy

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Na he certainly wasn't a Rindi wa he:rolleyes:

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Do you remember what he was like when anyone was smoking next to him. Seem to remember that he didn't approve of smoking. Well before the smoking ban this of course.

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Yep he used to have one of those little battery operated fans Bernard for when he was playing Crib or Dominoes!!!...Was always falling out with Mary Aspinall in the Gt Eastern about it!!! Lol!......When we came back from Spain once, we were at Baggage carousel at Man airport, chap stood next to Johnny was having a fag, and Johnny reached across in front of him and started wafting this blokes smoke away, abour 6 inch from his nose...the air turned blue, and luckily for Johnny this chaps wife calmed him down and moved him away, otherwise i think Johnny might have been going round with the cases!!!....It could be a dangerous passtime being Johnny's mate sometimes!!!:rolleyes:

Best Regards - Taggy

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What about the roughest, dirtiest, big mistake coming in here pubs!!!! Didn't there used to be one at the end of St.Christophers playing field back in the late 60's, a real rough estate pub!! :cool::cool::cool:

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Ya got me beat wi that un mate?:confused:

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I think you ment the Spinning Jenny.

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Going downstairs into a pub called the "Globetrotter" in Aldershot, it's were all the crow Para's used to go, me & mate RCT "leg troops". Talk about into the Valley of Death. My, how we could run in those days of youth :D


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You kind of get the idea !!!

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Thats up Fern Gore. ST Chrissys Aint.:confused:

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Your right, it was the Jenny and it was Fern Gore! I was born on Wordsworth Avenue before the school was there, is it the Holy Family??? Any ideas what was there then if anything? 1953 that was.

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Wrong end of Town mate, the Jenny is near Mt Carmel (Holy Family) St Christopher's is on Queens Road

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I've had a beer or two in The Pegasus in Aldershot a few moons ago, which was the Paras favourite pub, they used to have their own version of Pub Games, sticking there heads on the pool table whilst someone smacked a cue ball against it as hard as they could, and stapling beer mats to their heads, were two of the gentler ones i can put on a family forum!! ....not for the fainthearted i'll tell ya!!:D

Best Regards - Taggy

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Well obviously n high I.Q. is required, to be accepted in that "Elite" band.:rolleyes::D

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I'll let you pop down to Aldershot to tell um cashy:D

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Yep...Idiot Quotient, in their case...but i aint telling them that!!;)


Best Regards - Taggy

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Back in the Day (1983), the older Paras used to drink in the Pegasus, they were OK & never gave us any grief it was only the young "Meat Heads" who caused us a problem. Until we showed up with some Gurkha Transport Troops, we just sat back & watched the Cabaret :D

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1st pint 1st local
Crown Inn outside Nori.
Eddie Paynter ex Lancashire batsman was landlord.
A beer with the lads , every Saturday morning.
I was an ancient starter 16.
1953

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Pint of Carling Black Label an the Hob Inn in Bamber Bridge. Roaring open fire, thatched roof, 350 years of history and a great landlord.

All that is now sadly ruined by a greedy brewery although thankfully I learned the value of real ale some two years later.

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Anybody remember the strange dart board they had in the TanPits Ossy and what was wrong with it ???? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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Aunt of mine had Tanpits in early 60s, can't remember much about the dartboard even though i played occasionally on it, i blame pint crystals.:D

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Probably it was a Preston Board, with no trebles, never went in the Tanpits myself, but there were the odd Preston board knocking about, I also saw a plasticine board as well, you took the wire of and used a roller to flatten it and fill the dart marks in

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No that wasn't it. Played on a plasticine board as well. We used hedgehogs, lots of points!!

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Just been thinkin, what was strange about playing darts in the Tan Pits, would probably be closer!! Is the plase still there and when was it built??? :confused:

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that should be place!!!!

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He was also an England player - played against South Africa in 1939 I think it was. He gave me a bat autographed by the South Africans and the English team - it is now in South Africa - my brother appropriated it.

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Still yon, but has been closed a good while, last landlord was a traveller i was told,:)

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I remember the Tanpits in Church, but not the one in Oswaldtwistle. Can anyone tell me where it was please?

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Twas his geography that was wrong Barrie.:D;)

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I dont know the answer to this and can only recall going in there a couple of times, and not to play darts, but as far as i remember it was quite a small pub, so i'm just going to guess its either something to do with the location of the dart board, or perhaps if 2 teams were playing, there wasn't room for them all in the room..as i stay just a wild guess!


Best Regards - Taggy

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I know it's a bit of a thread wander Cashy. But Ive been meaning to ask you. Is there a pub in Accrington or Hyndburn you've never been in.

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Yep you got me there, Don't know me Church from me Ossy!

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Near enough, the ceiling was very low and I kid you not the locals used to throw the darts underhand because they couldn't get any loft on the dart. Must have been murder for the visiting team!!!

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I can also vaguely remember a kind of serving hatch just after you went in the door...again i dont know if thats memory being distorted with age...or if thats correct or not? The pub got modernised a bit in later years, which kind of removed any character from the place...i seem to remember all bright lights in there the last time i ever went in!

Best Regards - Taggy

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Not to my knowledge Bernard, :)

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It used to be a challenge when we were younger Bernard... to try to have a pint in em all before we were 18!!...i'm afraid these days...it wouldn't be as much of one!

Best Regards - Taggy

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Was that all on the same night cashy:rolleyes::D

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Thanks Taggy. There was an off premises bar I think just as you went in the door, just a counter in a little corridor. Was there another pub anyone can remember that had one??

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The Heys Inn Ossy had one, in the vestibule.

I passed it every day as I walked from school, via the allotment path, to Three Brooks mill where my mum and dad worked.(in mid/late 40s)

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Forgot to say GDM, the "Tanpits" became the "Plough Inn" a couple of years before it closed, cos never understand that, as there is a "Plough" up fielding lane ossy.:confused:

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OK, lets have the worst/best pub, landlord, then and now?? Best for me was the Bridge back in the early 70's and the worst was the Broadway about 20 years ago when all the strange and weird drinkers had taken over!!! :eek::eek::eek:

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Well the best in Accy that I remember(didn't drink much in accy until the eighties) was the Bridge Inn on Church Street, Dave and Sue Johnson, who I'm nearly sure know have the Peel Park, now whether Dave is still around I don't know, Sue was mayoress for Pam Barton and has don't a lot of charity work, Dave is a Brummie. Didn't really know any bad pubs then, but these days one of my old haunts from the sixties The Bay Horse ain't to clever, so I'm told although I have been in for donkey's years

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There were some pubs in Ossy that were notably lax on under-age drinking. We used to frequent the New Inn (landlord Ged), the Bay Horse on Tinker Brow where you could run upstairs if the police came in & one down near St. Paul's school that I've forgotten the name of. To play snooker it was the Straits club in the week or Accy Con on a Saturday.

Favourite tipple - pint of mixed one & sevenpence halfpenny - 1962.

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was 2 near st pauls, if yer talking union rd, "Horseshoe" lions house, n "Prince Of Wales" Thwaites.:);)

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The Bay Horse was my watering hole in the early sixties, Bill was the landlord think is wife was called Edith, The Surf United football team were based there too, had some great times back then

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Across from the Bay Horse was Annie's pie shop (later with husband? Jim). We used to go there for dinners (lunches!) in the school holidays. Plate meat pie was the best if there was any left - otherwise I would opt for meat & potato. Annie was like a 2nd mum.

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Jim was a good friend of mine, was a regular in the Stop and Rest on a Friday night in the 60s and 70s and always brought the bakers basket full of pies, I always had a cheese and onion, in later life he lived with his sister Margaret and husband Joe on Rhyddings street, sadly Jim died about 15 years ago, his sister Margaret, only died about 3 weeks ago

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my first pint was at the tinker,i for the land lady i think she was called jessy i was going in with my brother.

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would that be the big lass wi the long red hair?:)

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Ya know um all cashy:)

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My first drink was with me dad Ben in the Bay Horse then on to the Tinker. Dad used to say that if you started at the top of Ossy and had half in every pub down to Church you would be staggering on the way back. Was the beer weaker or are we just getting better at it? If I knew how to start a thread would ask how many pubs were there in the 60's. Perhaps someone can help?

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Loose meat and potato pie was the best. Jimmy Stevies we used to call it. He had a big pot of it stewing on a Saturday morning. Plastic table cloths and the place smelt of real coooking. My mouth is watering as I think.

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do a search, thread on all pubs on union rd somewhere, was at least double the pubs there is now, the beer sure was no weaker, ya couldn't do a half in em all both ways no chance. i tried one way wi pints in mid 60s, n was rat arsed before the irish league.:D

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I think the beer is stronger. Both Thwaites & Lion's bitters were around the 3.6 ABV mark....look at todays bitters..you rarely see Thwaites ordinary, now and as for Lions...R.I.P. You do, however see quite a bit of Bomber and that comes in at 4.4%.

I don't think many people men lager supped lager back in the '60s - it was, and still is a woman's drink - but nevertheless it does average out stronger than bitter. That probably explains why there is such alcohol related violence today - the young lads who sup lager probably get a hormone inbalance resulting in a confused gender crisis causing them to start fights in order to prove their masculinity.

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Dad was right then, as usual! will look for the thread

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sorry T, wasn't counting lager as beer.:D

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So where do you put the hormone imbalance of female related alcohol violence because they drink bitter?

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If they're out with me they get half a mild and a bag of cheese and onion with instructions to sit in the corner and keep quiet while I finish my game of darts with t'lads.

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Generous to a fault eh:rolleyes:

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Reminds me of the time I dated this lass Tealeaf, went in the Big Crown in accy before attending Joe Morts, gets to the bar and asked her what she wanted to drink, Brandy and Babycham please:eek::eek::eek: My reply, barman Pint of bitter and half of your finest Mild please sir:D:D

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Sucker ya had much to learn, i picked em up in the dancehall, sod buying there drinks, until ya knew the score.:D

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Ya but I was a gentleman cashy,:rolleyes: but not a Brandy and Babycham gentleman:D

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Anybody remember drinking cider and green ginger in the jazz/folk club on Burnley rd? Never come across this drink anywhere else but it was the "in" drink up there in the 60s.:dogrun:

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Remember the "Jazz Club" bella, but never supped that muck.:D

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Never drunk it since but thought it was pretty good at the time. Another way of getting drunk quickly and cheaply was half a tartan bitter followed by a cherry b! Happy days!

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Another favourite was half a tartan bitter followed by a cherry b - in Bulloughs club on Blackburn rd - think thats what it was called.

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Well I was a regular too cashy and I never came across that either, thank god:D

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Talking about concoctions, drinking in the Bay Horse in the sixties we had a drink called Tanglefoot (don't ask) Half of bitter half of larger topped up with a double whisky, Think if Alf Nobel hadn't already used the word dynamite, we might just have stolen it, that did put hairs on our chest, and that was only the lasses:D:D

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Riveting game darts. Bet the women are swarming around you for the crisps, cheese and onion to boot. WOW!:rolleyes:

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Did the half Lager/half Bitter thing, but kept the whisky seperate, only we called it "Golden" asked for it down South & they reckoned it was a "Mickey Mouse" :o just an afterthought Lager & Cider "Snakebite" or "Brown Bitter" half Bitter/half Brown Ale.

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Trust the Bay Horse oiks to ruin good whiskey.:rolleyes:

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Aye. Why not? There's nowt better than a woman likes than to know her place.

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Well we all know why there is a deep plinth in kitchen units, so women can get nearer to the sink:D

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Its eveident you've never tasted the ale in't Bay Horse cashy:D

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well you knowing me.....thats a daft statement.:eek:

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I'm going back 40 years and I hear it ain't changed:D

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Drink related! When Mum and Dad came back from the "Old Band Club" my Dad would always be singing a few lines of a song that sticks with me today, "Suger in the morning suger in the evening suger at supper time, be my little suger and love me all the time!" any ideas if this was a proper song and if so who sang it and when??? :theband:

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I can remember it too GDM.
Could it possibly be from some very old American film ( such as a Fred Astaire or a Shirley temple horror!!?

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Sugar in the morning sugar in the evening sugar at suppertime
Be my little sugar and love me all the time
Honey in the morning honey in the evening honey at suppertime
Be my little honey and love me all the time
Now sugar time is anytime cause you're near
Don't you roam just be my honeycomb we'll live in a heaven of bliss
Sugar in the morning...
[ piano ]
(Be my little honey and love me all the time)
[ guitar ]
(Be my little honey and love me all the time)
Now sugar time is anytime...
Sugar in the morning sugar in the evening sugar at suppertime
Be my little sugar and love me all the time


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