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Did Accy ever have a Yates Wine Lodge? Is the one in Blackburn still open? :confused:

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Nah was never one in Accy, Owd un in Blackburn is long gone, may be a new establishment now have no idea.:confused:

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There's a pub down the Rossendale valley - don't ask me exactly where - that sells nowt but soft drinks (Dandelion & Burdock and the like). It's a bit of a tourist attraction but historically it's a throwback to the temperance movement of the late 19C. Funnily enough, the C.I.U. started off in a similer vein. I wonder if there was ever a similar 'pub' around Accy, and if so where?

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If I remember rightly its in Waterfoot Tealeaf, seem to remember it was more of a shop than a pub, but something tells me they did graduate to a pub, maybe Jen could shed a bit more light on that, as for one in Accy area, the closest that came was when Britcliffe suggest that for, I think, the Printers Arms a few years ago, but it was a none starter

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Groove beleives the temperance movement was responsible for dozens of pubs closing on Union.rd more or less overnight. The drink Vimto was also borne out of this temperance movement. There was a Bell's temperance movement in Accy and Groove thinks thats were Belfield.rd got its name, being situated near Bells temperance ground-Stanleys original home.

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Jaysay thinks Groove is half a pork pie short of a picnic

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Groove thinks Jaysay is the village idiot

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Talk about trade descriptions ? How can it be called a Pub without a sniff of Ale ? :)

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That would be Fitzpatricks in Rossendale, they sell their pop all over now including Booths Supermarkets & Ossie Mills!

Fitzpatrick's Temperance Bar & Emporium

Best Regards - Taggy

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Yep i remember Ella well, a good laugh actually...but ruddy hell, you didn't cross her!! Lol!

Best Regards - Taggy

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Jaysay doesn't live in a village and unlike you never been in a mental home;)

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Once remember her dressing up as a witch on Halloween, hell was that scary:D:D

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Lol!....Just nearly spat my tea out picturing the thought of that!..Certainly wouldn't have needed much extra make-up would she!;)

You could always spot her a mile away when she was down town too, the mane of red hair & she used to like quite vibrant coloured clothes too!

Best Regards - Taggy

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Ya she was one on her own was Ella, the only thing that was missing on Halloween was the broomstick and a black cat:D

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Was it the landlord of the Swan or one close to it that used to play the piano drunk as a skunk and once fell off the stool and broke a leg. Back in the 70's this would be????

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That was the Hargreaves Arms

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Twas Jack,Landlord of the Hargreaves Arms, that was in the 60s gdm27, his dog used to sit by the piano n howl to his playing, thing wi jack though, he really could play well, n when he used to fall off his stool, he would get back up n carry on the tune without missing a note.;)

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Just before it was modernised in around 74, I used to practice with a group in the upstairs room, Jack was dead by then but his mrs used to pop in and listen and often said how here hubby would have loved to have been here, think she was called Peggy but not to sure on that

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Groove would like to go back in time for a pub crawl round the long lost boozers of Accy.

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gdm27 would love to be able to drink more than 5 pints without gettin the same feeling it used to take 10 back then!!!

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Can you remember your 1st Christmas Eve pub and what time you got there?? Broadway, 7pm until after the lock in around 2am. Very, very drunk!! Merry Christmas everyone!

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Its Christmas eve pub, one pub, set of in the Palatine, then the Blockade, Railway was next (Less Mick and Beni weren't in the smoke room:D) then the Derby, then the middle bar in Accy Con, then the gutter outside at midnight, ho what great times we had:D

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I can see you remembering the end result but the first bit?? Good on you!

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First christmas eve booze up? yeh gotta be kidding.:confused::D

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Was getting a bit fuzzy by the Derby:thepint:

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Anyone know who the longest serving landlord or landlady is in the area??

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Nuther question. Just been Googling around Accy and found a building on the corner of Brown st. and Richmond st. This used to be a pub didn't it? What is it now? Great building mind.

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The pub woulda been the "Richmond" another Thwaites House that bit the dust, have a funny story about seeing Tommy Franks perform yon in the 70s, but not wise to put it on here.:D

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It was the Richmond pub its now a doctors surgery

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Would imagine one of the longest serving landlords well Dave and Sue Johnson, who are now in the Peel Park, before that they had the Grey Horse and the Bridge in, must have been licensees in Accrington for 30 years plus now

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Richmond Medical Centre has now moved to the new building on Blackburn Road (Acorn) I think It's called.:alright:

Richmond pub was my local 40+ years ago.

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Just wish I could get out more Beni:D you'll be telling me next they've closed the Miners club:rolleyes::D

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The only pints you'll get in there are engine oil anti freeze and screen wash but at least It's open.:hehetable

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Old England Forever Church st Clayton le Moors 16 years old in through the back yard at the interval at the Vic. About one & tupence a pint, todays money about 6p

P.S Miners in Burnley sells more Beni than anywhere in England.

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I'm not for sale.:mad::mad::D:D

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Did you mean.....'I'm free' ?

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Ya Plum street Miners, a mate of mine used to be steward there in the 70s and they went through a hell of a lot of Beni, just to clarify that's not Benipete:D in those days too, think they're noted for being the best outlet for beni in the country, or were

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Not sure where i had first pint,probably Black Bull when I worked for Bradley's. First local, St Leger Plantation st run by an irish guy,always seemed to have after hour drinking......lived in Oswald st so not far to stagger home.

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Used both of em regular, Won highest score on pin ball in St Leger fer ages, much free ale,:D Then the landlord twigged.:D;)

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Cashman cheating, never:D:D

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yea jack whitham

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ya thats what I said:rolleyes:

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At work the other day I turned into my Dad when I told one of the teenagers I work with that me and my mate used to go down the Bridge on Thursday night (early 70's) with a quid and bought 5 pints??? Cheap night out but I bet you could better that!!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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A quid got me well oiled, a packet of fags, n chips on the way home early 60s. n still had a small amount of change.:D

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I remember, on a couple of occasions, winning the jackpot on the one armed bandit in the Con Club in Accy. The joy when those forty tanners came out:theband:

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Can't remember what I paid for beer in Accrington back in the '50s but do remember that a pint of scrumpy was 11d and a pint of Ushers bitter was 1s 3d in the Weston S Mare area in 1961/62

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And for those unaware, There were 20 Shillings in a pound back then.;)

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And 100 pennies was 8/4d. Or Eight shillings and four pence.

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Felt like more when there were 40 tanners in your pocket:D

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The bandits in the Elite snooker hall paid out threepeny bits *chuckle*

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Yep 999 was the jackpot on em when Bert @ Roland the one eyed slave were behind the counter.:D

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Are there any pubs in Accy that still have barmaids over 12 years old??? Barstaff used to be so much more friendly back then!! Then being not now and back in the 60s and 70s, happy daze!

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Our watering hole the "Railway" has barmaids, who in fairness those ive seen are friendly.:) or perhaps they know not to antagonise the you know whos.:D

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summer of 85, i was 14, dad had just died and i had a saturday job at one of scrap yards in Altham, walking home i wanted to use the phonebox outside the greyhound, it was bust, so nipped in the pub, covered in oil n muck to ask to use phone, "having a drink while yer ere?", a nervous "yes" later i had my first pint that i had walked in and boughtt myself, over the weeks became a regular, in work clothes, then when they knew me "in civvies" me and a mate would go in play pool, couple of pints, and was on absolute best behaviour, we caused no hassle not like some of the legal drinkers.

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What pub did you start Christmas Eve in and which do you pass out in later? Broadway (both) ;) early 70's mind!

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Christmas Eve (& most other nights out tbh) started in the Regency & ended up either in there or in Bees Knees - that was in late 70's

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The Rovers player was actually PETER DOBING who went on to play for Stoke City;)

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Johnny Walker didn't drink, more like POURED it down his neck.
He was a great bloke.

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Yeh remember the best forward line Rovers ever had including the one in 90s, Twas Douglas,Dobing,Dougan,Vernon, Macleod, But am near sure there was another Rovers player later that was going wi daughter in junction?

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Anyone know the longest that a landlord has been at the same pub :confused::confused::confused: Under new managment seems to be the norm!

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They don't stay long these days

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roland rathbone at the lomax in great harwood was there for years,not sure about any in accy maybe ray linacre from the hope and anchor,he was there for about 7 years.

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Himself tells me he started his downhill slide when he was about 15 – no ID required. He can’t remember name of pub, not sure if this is due to age (current age that is) or the effects of the liquid amber at the time. Somewhere round Cannon Street opposite the Ritz Ballroom, as was. From there he graduated to the Con Club Bar. Since then has continued spiralling downwards and has imbibed in many pubs, many places, including Outback Australia. Now THAT’S an experience!

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Think that pub would be the "Little Crown" dotti? a masseys house long gone.:)

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Spot on Cashman!!! Many thanks. Himself says that was definitely it.

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Where was the Ritz Ballroom then cashy, I always thought it was near Church St.:confused:

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It was i assumed dotti meant Church St, Glad to help dotti, seems funny i can remember pubs n not banks.:o

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Ya concidering you'd use one when you were sober and the other when you were brams and list:D

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More than probable it WAS Church Street - at our age we're lucky to be able to remember the name of a town ne'er mind a street......

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Another watering-hole remembered from his misspent youth is the Thorn Inn at Church Kirk. He remembers the doorway was so low that people of above-average height had to duck their heads to enter, or take the step down. Was in the darts team - the very low big oak teams had plenty of darts stuck in them. Good times – hangovers aplenty!

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I do believe the Thorn is now closed

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Think it's still open ..according to a lad I've just been chatting to in't Peel Park over a pint of Acorn Blonde.

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I could swear somebody was telling me the other week that the Thorn had been boarded up, that week, might be wrong:confused:

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Just been round to Church Kirk to do some brass-rubbing Mr J ;)
Doors open at the Thorn Inn and it looked nice and tidy.
Can't say the same for the Cross Guns..looked tired and in need of some tlc

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Did one of my first ever djing gigs at the thorn about 1987

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Cheers D and for the pic too, ain't seen the thorn in years :mosher:

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I think the street name may have changed just about there Jay. The Ritz entrance was down the arcade(?), between Barnes Furniture/Carpets. Ritz entrance was to the left and Bullough's Cub to the right. The Ritz Cinema was a few yards further up the street.

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Ya Barrie that's where I thought it was which didn't seem the place that was being described in the post

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Himself says he remembers that The Ritz Ballroom was on the corner of Cannon and Church Streets, so you are spot on there. Did a lot of tripping the light fantastic at The Ritz (or maybe just tripping over depending on how much time had been spent in the Little Crown beforehand).
One of his mates, Johnny Armstrong, was lead singer at The Ritz in those days - in the (earlier) '50's. Btw, does anyone know what happened to Johnny?

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Dotti where was this Little Crown:confused: the only crown I can remember in Accy Centre, is the one which was near Joe Morts, Church side of the bridge on Blackburn Road

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He remembers well the Crown next to Joe Morts, Joe Morts was a place he and his mate frequently visited, and yep! he imbibed in that Crown also. As Joe Morts didn’t have a bar it was only dancing at that place (plus whatever he’s not telling me about!). The Little Crown was the name Cashman thought might have been the pub I mentioned in my initial post and this had rung a bell in the old boy’s noggin’ which is not to say the bell had rung the right tune….confusion being the norm to us old ‘uns!
Maybe there were two Crowns – the one next to J.M.’s and the ‘Little’ one near the Ritz (no bar there either) that started his downfall, or maybe it was a different place altogether. Anything’s possible. Long time ago now. Btw, wasn’t The Ritz and Joe Morts at the opposite ends of town?

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This thread should answer your question...

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...f-60950-6.html

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Many thanks for that Susie, much appreciated. I went to the thread and it has answered a lot of questions, including the fact that his memory isn't that bad after all, hmm!!

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Hadn't realised so much had already been written re these places on the other thread, so I do apologise for that - glad to see that someone is on the ball!!!!!

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Well there was A pub on Church Street in 1909 according to a post by Steve, but can't remember it being there in the early 60s dotti? the only other Crown I know is the Crown pub on Whalley from which Stanley's ground is named

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You're still a spring chicken jaysay - try the early '50's......and, according to the forum thread that Susie mentions, the Little Crown was in Church Street. Apparently was only the size of a terraced house (am quoting from Margaret Pilkington's post in that forum last year - hope you don't mind Margaret) and the licensed premises were just one room, hence I suppose the name 'Little'. That would make for cosy chats......

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Sounds like the vault in the heys inn back yon:D

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Don't know if Mr Dotti ever ventured out in "Snuffy Arrod" but this is a cracking little site....
Great Harwood Pubs

I reckon the Accyweb should commission Mr jaysay and Mr cashman to do one for Accy ;) They have the knowledge :cool:

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Quite a few pubs only the size of a terraced house ... Village Blacksmith on Bayley St., Clayton (bottom end of course, just up the street from the Bottom Club) for example. Dutton's house; served a grand pint ... often stopped in there for a quick one on the way down to the Fort's, which was a fair distance away:D ... almost a 2 minute walk.:D

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Well cashy would be fine, he's probably been thrown out of every pub in accy years ago, myself am not fully conversant of all accy pubs but ossy is a different matter, sad to say many of the pubs that were around when I first set out down the amber nectar road are no longer open, which is a crying shame:s_cry:

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A man could die of thirst walking that far without a drink Eric:D

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I served my time at the English Electric and remember more than one housewife in her scarf and curlers waiting at the back gates of th'Lectric on paydays to get first dibbs on their husbands pay packet before the Village Blacksmith ;)

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Prince of Wales eh Mr j ? those were the good old days ;)

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I used to live at 46 Rishton Rd., and my dad worked at English Electric for a while before shifting to Huncoat power station. I remember the crew walking down Charles (?) St. at quitting time. I think that the Village must have been the closest pub to the plant. A long way to go on pay day, with a thirst on.;) Even beer at 1/10d a pint could make a big hole in the pay packet.:D

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Eric - himself says he briefly worked at the Huncoat Power Station when the foundations were being put in for the cooling towers. 'Briefly' meaning only lasted two to three weeks, too bleeding cold and wet down there, probably about 30 foot deep full of mud and sludge. Not the best working conditions for an apprentice lad of about 18...
He remembers 1/6d a bottle for Younger's Double Century at the Con Club. He reckons it was the best bottled brew out - apparently not brewed anymore. Dutton's O.B.J.'s and Thwaite's Dark Ale (can't remember the name of it) all enjoyed, but the Younger's was the best.

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Re the Great Harwood Pubs, a very interesting and well put together site - but himself didn't go to the pubs there, did go roller skating every Saturday morning at G.H. - that was well before his drinking age, and even before he could 'get away with it'.

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Ya the good old prince of wales, the third form had history lessons in the snug:D

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Used to work with a bloke dotti who drank nothing else but Double Century's he used to call them soldiers, I said to him why do you call um soldiers Charlie he said they're stood to attention on the bar shelf:D

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mmm dotti remember drinking Double C's in the Con...perfectly poured into a half glass mind (not necked from the bottle as is the way these days ..shudder !!)
Rose and Crown up Ossy used to sell it back in those days too. Two Double C's in a pint glass magic :)
Thwaites Dark Ale would be Old Dan I am guessing.

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Used to go out with a girl off Alice Street in Ossy..never had history lessons in the "Prinny" ...more like Future lessons :rolleyes:well she knew what was gonna happen later anyway.