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With the ELP and Champions League all done and dusted the creeping feeling of exictement is now increasing the closer it gets to Euro 2012...this time the build up is not the usual stuff about England actually winning it but there's plenty of good football ahead.

What are Englands chances?... who will win it?

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I dunno .... with the Italians under yet another match fixing scandal cloud, and Hodgson calling up Martin Who? instead of Ferdinand, it's going to be interesting to say the least ... England's chances? Zero. They don't have a squad, they have a simmering controversy and a joke for a manager. To win? Germany ... as disciplined as the Waffen SS, and with lots of talent too. I bet on the Kings for the Stanley Cup, so I might just be on a roll.;)

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Nowt creeping up on me, We have as much chance of winning it as Stanley have of winning the F.A. Cup, Fancy Spain meself.

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Not moving me either, I'll probably watch some of the matches, but at least there's none of this talking England up this time, none of this we can win it, we might actually do better than everybody thinks, I'm with cashy though I fancy Spain, very good outfit

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Seeing they have just left Luton on a British Airways, normally configured aeroplane, all economy, I don't rate their chances.

Maybe I am a little bit annoyed they did not use us, unlike the under 21's and several of the premiership do. :D

But on a serious note, Roy Hodgson....... They would have a better chance with Brendan Rodgers.

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Don't be coming over all giddy BG:D

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Don't get me started Jay, after watching Granada Reports, i saw the aircraft was from our competitors.........darn it

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It was more about you mentioning Wroy and Brendan that made me smile:D

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I thought that may be it, however seeing the report made me want to kick the cat, and its been dead two years....

Anyway all the best to the Lads and i wonder how long it will be before we are welcoming them home.

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When play Ukraine on the 19th June, plane will no doubt land back in blighty on the 20th:D

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Holland for me thank you very much. England second in group, losing to Croatia in the quarters. :D now that's out there for you.

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i think germany will win it:eek: england myabe dark horses for semis.:)

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Could be an underdog ... seem to remember it wasn't too many years ago that Greece took it. But I'll still take the Krauts ... seems like discipline and dogged defence is the way to beat the teams with flair. Oh, and a little bit of luck.;)

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:confused::confused:What Group are the Jocks in Cmon:confused::confused::confused::D

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and a Russian Linesman Eric:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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Lost Defoe now, Returned home following his dads death, Poor sod.:(

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hes joining up with the squad at a later date.

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Yeh i know, but not a good situation fer the lad.

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Doubt his mind will be fully on his football, I know how I felt when my Father died

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Ok I'll go Holland/Spain/Germany to win it :D.. hope England get to the quarter finals..if we get past that then it's all to play for!

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http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...2-a-61646.html for anybody who wants to do fantasy football eague deadline for first games is looming.

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Well, first game done & dusted, thought at times it was a swimming festival & as for the ref, hope he doesn't cover an England game.

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Me too Dave, what the hell was that first red card about, :confused:

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Thought the ref was useless, but whats new?:D Also thought Greece shaded it oer 90 mins.

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The Ruskies are 2-0 up after 25 minutes

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Hehe...absolute gem :)


Thai Tims-Rocky Road to Poland - YouTube

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There's me thinking England had a bad group but Holland,Germany,Denmark,Portugal in the same group looks tough..anyway bring on France!...not sure about our attack but reckon the French ain't any better up front.

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Was amazed,Thought Germany v Portugal was worst game so far?:confused: Twas billed up to be the best.:rolleyes:

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Watched both group B games tonight, might need to re-assess my view of Holland after tonights showing against Denmark, the Danes looked good, solid & businesslike after an initial starting phase of cautiousness.

Portugal could still be a contender if they turn it up like they did after going behind to the Hermans & I was so looking forward to taking the pish on Monday......:( looks like that's on hold for the time being.

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Reckon the Germans did what Germans do..started off with a win.. lets hope thier tanks run out of fuel when they reach the Ukriane :D

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Ive backed germany at bookies,rubbish odds of 7-2...Maybe should have gone for England at 14-1..Not a bad price that given no pressure for once.14-1 when only about 5 teams properly fancied and only 9 games to be played to win it.Happy enough with hodson,he got experience.. emmmm maybe should have backed England ;)

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Bit harsh Cashy..reckon it was more or less a home game for the Germans..Portugal did stir it up in the second half and looked like scoring.. turned out to be a decent game in the last 15 mins.

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Not harsh Mancie, Didn't say it was a bad game, Said "Worst Game So Far" n i stand by that.;)

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Holland were very poor last night Dave, even though they had 20 odd shots they never looked like scoring Van Percy was well of beam all the match.

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Love it - & it certainly beats Chris Kamara's effort with the official song for England :D

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Spain v Italy wasn't bad in the second half, but Torres has totally lost it now

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Is it just me gets annoyed wi that Stupid bloody logo they keep flashing on screen every few mins?:(

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Fell asleep at half time watching the German game,{must have been jet lag**. Should have fell asleep watching the Irish game! Enjoyed the Spain-Italy match and the ref let them knock each other around with was nice. Fingers crossed for England tomorrow.

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Ya that and Childs its really annoying:rolleyes:

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Well quite a good game really, its a long time sinse I saw England keep their shape right through a match like they did today, they just looked a wee bit light up front, but 10 out of 10 for effort

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Thought it wasn't a bad match, Fer me England had first 45, France second half, so overall 1-1 about right, Made a nice change fer England to try n pass the ball. So oer 6 weeks Hodgson aint done bad.

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The only real problem I could see was that the forwards weren't able to keep the ball or hold it up, think that Fat Lad will make the difference after he's finished his enforced sabbatical. Lets just hope that we get a bit better ref too, I was dreading one of the frogs going down in the box it would have been a certain penalty, the ref missed a lot of fouls by the frogs and very little by England

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I think England were well organised against the French but yes we do look light up front.. biggest worry was that some midfield players were knackered after 75 mins and this was only the 1st match! :eek:

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Hell, Cech nearly cost his side dearly in tonight's match what a bloomer that was, could believe that Milan Baros is still playing it seems ages since he was plying his trade at Anfield, although he has slowed down a tad:D

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Was 28 Degrees, thought he woulda put "Fresh Legs" on a bit sooner to be honest.;)

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The heat has to be a factor but I don't think the game was played at a fast pace.. if we get tired so early in the first match I can't see us coping to well when (if) it comes to any hell-for-leather knock out games.

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I've backed Spain, Germany, Holland, France and Portugal to win the tournament, i'll make a profit just as long as one of 'em wins it... :eek:

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Poland impressed me tonight, never giving in & the pace at the start was unbelievable, as to their passing moves & positional play, England should take note, that was some good footy tonight.

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Was a good fast paced game....some of the TV pundits are saying we are a better side than Russia ,Poland and such but if England end up in a scrap with these teams I don't fancy our chances.. they don't get tired when it gets tough.

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For me, the performance against the French was a reasonable "rearguard" action...that said I think we dropped a bit too deep for my liking. Nasri's goal typified how dropping too deep can create problems.:o

I was reading the match stats and whilst not realizing whilst watching the game....they show England's three attempts on goal in 90 minutes highlights the lack of creativity when you sit back and defend.:o

I think we need to "press" the ball a bit more and move the ball around a bit quicker when we do have it....we've got pace so why not use it???

As has been said, I think we'll hold the ball up better when Rooney comes back into the side. I think we'll have to beat the Swedes on Friday, so similiar quality crosses to the one that Lescott scored with will be the order of the day as the Swedes look a bit clueless when it comes to marking at set pieces.:eek:

I wouldn't want to go into the Ukraine game knowing we need to win to progress.:o

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To be honest,if we get outa this group, which to me is 50-50, I don't fancy our chances Full Stop.:eek:

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The post match interview with Gerrard after the France game was interesting when he said England would like to get 4 points from the next 2 games.. I reckon that's about right but it smacks of the Ron Greenwood attitude at the World Cup in Spain 1982 when we didn't get those 4 points

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I missed that, But the captain is saying in other words they don't expect to win em both,:eek: Which to my mind is n unacceptable statement from him.:(

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I think England will get through to the next round but will have to do it with a rear guard action, their strength lies in a packed defense and hope to score on the break or set piece. To get any further they have to replace Milner and hope Rooney has his shooting boots on.

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Just watched the Denmark v Portugal match, probably the best game I've seen so far, apart from twinkle toes missing when he was clean through on goal, the winner was a cracker, think I'll watch the Germans and Dutch, that could be a good game too, if Holland get beat they're on their way home

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Again, Holland disappointing except for V.P. eventually packing one in. So it seems my tip for Euro 2012 wasn't so hot after all. :o Now I know why I don't bet. :)

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The Krauts deserved the win, as usual there improving as tournament gets going, So fair play to em.

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Ya cashy they looked very well marshalled and very organised especially up front, they're looking quite dangerous

I think the Irish will be Paddy Whacked by Spain tonight. On watching last nights match between Holland v Germany I think Germany must be favourites to win it.

England were average and the ref didn't help much either, it was probably a good thing Rooney was suspended because I think his temper would have got him sent off.

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Allegedly some Dutch fans clamping the German Team coach, can't see the bus being this unsecure...the Daily Mirror are reporting it as fact (then again thats pretty meaningless). Still classic though just for the driver's body language at the end of the clip :)

Oranje wielklem op spelersbus Duitse Mannschaft - YouTube

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The Mirror you'd get a more accurate account from the Dandy:rolleyes:

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The Croat's and Ities was a bit drab, hope the paddy's v Spain is a bit better,

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Well the Irish didn't think it was better.:D

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Didn't hear the Spanish complaining:D, the Irish were very very poor, probably the worst team I've seen so far and I missed their first match;)

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Ukraine v France, Game suspended crap weather.:(

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Ya it was raining cats and poodles:D

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Just restarted at 1800 hrs

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Could have done with Ukraine not getting beaten by the French tonight.. England really do need to beat Sweden now..:eek:

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And they did:theband: Great header from Caroll ... I know he's had a lot of bad press, but he's a good old-fashioned #9 ... there was real power on that header.

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Good win against a not to good Sweden and some positives.. Wellbeck has bags of energy and looks like he could play everyday... Walcott ran at them when he came on..Glen Johnson and Ashley Cole were good in defence...Gerrard looked at it and Caroll looked hungry.
Negatives are.. Milner looks knackered after 20 mins.. Terry is lacking pace and will get caught out against any good forwards...but all in all job done!

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Funniest tweet I've seen for a while...

'On the bright side, I'm trying to get the boy to sleep and Scotland's just gone really quiet'

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It was like watching Stanley (only bigger crowds & pay packets :D) they certainly went about it the hard way around ! :rolleyes:

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Think Young who has been poor in both games, should be left out against Ukraine, Milner has bags of energy to me, but not the man fer england. Happy that gypos back fer Ukraine, would play him just back from Caroll n Wellbeck. If we get a better result than France, Can avoid Spain in next round i reckon.

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Yep I agree.. Rooney could be used just behind the forward.. and seeing as he won't be match fit can't see any reason to play him as an out n out forward.. to me if Rooney gets a start it should be in an attacking midfield supporting Defoe/Caroll/Welbeck.

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:confused:.. Milner works hard for 30-40 mins and then is knackered.. you've been watching to many Rovers/Stanley games mate.:)

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Not disputing at what stage he gets knackered, am disputing the fact he aint international standard, at least fer England.;)

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Well let's say someone will loose the place for Rooney.. should it be Caroll, Wellbeck,Young ?

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Young fer me, been very poor both games. Milner at a push.

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Both Carroll & Wellbeck scoring tonight gives Hodgson a difficult & welcome problem....both played well tonight & scored !!! Young had a poor game so naturally he's under the microscope !!!

But Young played out on the wing tonight so by bringing back Rooney (which given his "talisman" status is a given ) and the fact that Walcott had a good game when he came on....suddenly Hodgson has a dilemma !!!:eek:

One things for sure....unlike Capello, Hodgson doesn't seem afraid to tinker with formations and try to adapt to situations. His answer to this particular selection problem will be intriguing to say the least.:confused:

However, erring on the side of caution....I'd still say we're dropping to deep at times, we don't press the ball enough and we're still a bit too hesitant and slow going forward, although the third goal was a damn good team goal, quite incisive which had around eleven passes and a sublime finish to boot by Wellbeck !!!:D

Personally speaking, I think the fact that Rooney & Wellbeck playing together at United will probably have a great bearing on Hodgson's next selection. Somehow, I think Carroll might end up back on the bench for the Ukraine game.

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Tough call, not sure if he will start Rooney, could bring him on at half time. Def. leave out Milner and if we had another defender, Terry would go for me, on the second goal today he was marking fresh air. Just hope they come out to win and not sit back and hope to hang on to a draw.

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Might be worthwhile giving Terry a rest and putting in Jones ... big, strong, young lad ... lots of pace and stamina. Not afraid to go forward either.

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One hell of a header that Eric, but it was a shaky performance

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I think its a racing cert he'll start with Rooney, he has too, we need to win and win good and hope the swedes get something against France, don't fancy England playing Spain in the last eight they're a good settled team and are very hard to beat

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I agree with you, Terry was totally rubbish last night. He doesnt deserve to be there in my opinion, and he is un-fit.

I would like to see Roy starting with Carrol and Wellbeck on the next match to see how they go and then bring Rooney on at half time.
Carroll and Wellbeck both played well last night and Rooney needs to realise he is not the be all and end all of the English Team.

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Where you watching the same game as me heth the only thing Welbeck did was score the goal, he kept losing it or giving it away, but agree about Terry, he nearly got caught out in the first half

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At least Wellbeck chases the ball and try's a bit harder. He just needs to come out of his shell and believe he is as good as Carroll as he seemed to dominate. Not a bad thing but I would rather have 2 dangerous players up front rather than one.

Rooney just stands there and waits till the ball comes to his feet....................

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I think Welbeck is a great player with lots of talent, he tries things other player don,t even think about like his goal yesterday, a back heal through his legs and off balance, brilliant. I think he oozes confidence and scares the heck out of the opposition. I def. agree about Jones for Terry.

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Although Young hasn't played well I think it might work if they play Young, Welbeck and Rooney, certainly for the first half. After all they haven't played too badly together for La Creme and they obviously know each others style and movement.
Milner & Johnson scare me, they just seem to be the weakest area in both defence and attack - Jones and Walcott would be my preference

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Well, well, well ! Break out the Ouzo, a round of Mythos for the Gentlemen & glasses of Retsina for the Ladies, then tuck into some gyros, bit of Soccer-aties anyone ? ............ If you've not twigged it's all about the Greeks ! :D

Well surprised, but actually quite pleased for them.

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He will no doubt start wi the gypo, personally i wouldn't bring him on until last 30 mins, May help the nowty/arrogant git value his England shirt.

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Tonight should serve as a warning to Hodgson & the boys.....take it too lightly on Tuesday and we'll be on the way home. I wonder if the Ruskies thought they were all but home and hosed and into the knock out phase before they played the Greeks !!!

It's gonna be tough Tuesday !! Win and maybe finish top.............or p****foot around and play for a draw / avoid getting beat and we might just end up with egg on our faces.:(

Though we're still not good enough to win it ???? Or maybe Hodgson should take a leaf out of the Mancini book of mindgames !!!:eek:;)

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How does points system work?

Group A

Poland 2 draws 1 lose 2 goals
Greece 1 draw 1 lose 1 win 3 goals
Russia 1 draw 1 lose 1 win 5 goals
Czech R 1 lose 2 wins 4 goals

Ok so it's clear that Czech Rep go through. Then you have Russisa and Greece - so how come Russia don't go through when they got more goals and Greece do go through?

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Does seem odd to me, Me guess is cos greece beat russia?

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Exactly cashy

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But I thought it was points gained from the over all performances. Not just if they won the last game?

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Greece n Russia attained the same points 4 each, But Greece beat Russia. Goals for/against obviously aint a factor.;) makes no odds when they play each other, last match or first.

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Yeh so what do you get points for then, obviously for a win you get points - how many! I take it you don't get points for more goals then as Russia had the highest amount.

So clarify this points system then? Cheers :D

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3 pts fer a win,1 Pt fer a draw, goals count fer nowt in Euros.;) Both Russia n Greece had 4 Pts.

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Ya its points that make prizes when your level and you've beaten your equal

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yeh I get that they were both equal but then why Russia out and Greece in?