Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 991309)

Being a big fan of Joe Jackson, I got into him in the early 80's, I would say he is anything but punk.
Night and Day, the album which 'Steppin Out' was off was a nod and tribute to Cole Porter.
he is just finishing a tribute album to Duke Ellington, his work comprises Classical, Jazz, Pop and Rock sometimes combining them all.
I have seen him a few times live and he is one of the best live acts I have ever seen.

To say that Punk paved the way for him, well if having a record producer hear your tape, then signing you is down to the influence of punk so be it. but where does that leave The Beatles.
His label at the time was A&M a rather large label.

To be fair, I always thought the start of DIY etc started with the Teac A3440 4 track reel to reel and the Tascam home studio that used cassettes.

Maybe we should class Marillion as punk, they don't have a record label, instead rely on their fans to buy albums up front, so they can record them.

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 991316)

Quote from Wikipedia entry on him - " He was popular for his pop/rock and new wave music early on before moving to more eclectic, though less commercially successful, pop/jazz/classical hybrids."

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 991429)

Did you go on Wikipedia and write that yourself?:rolleyes:

I listened to Joe Jackson all the way from Accy to Strasbourg on a coach (school exchange trip) Easter 1979, that and Outlandos D'amour, almost wore the tapes out -both on A&M if i remember rightly.

It's fair enough on the part of a record company -who want to make money on their investment, to suggest the direction of an artist's first output - their own style will prevail if they are destined for success. Joe Jackson and The Police have stayed the test of time as artists even though their first songs were less "them", as you suggest in the case of JJ. The Police had a "Punk" first record -Landlord, which was not a hit -listen to it and you'll see why! They were also told by A&M to bleach their hair blond to look more Punk -they just looked a bit daft as they were much older than the kids playing punk -even though Sting pulled it off better than the other two because of his natural beauty.:D

Just to throw the cat among the pigeons -was thinking about Squeeze -another group I loved back in the good old days of the 70's. Where would you place them with relaton to Punk? Might be an idea to ask Jools;)


Have just listened to this one again with much pleasure:D

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 991755)

Aaaaahhh, Debbie Harry, my generation of Schoolboys fantasy, she was a proper darlin' in them days. :) Not looking to bad now either, eeeehh.

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 991755)

Aaaaahhh, Debbie Harry, my generation of Schoolboys fantasy, she was a proper darlin' in them days. :) Not looking to bad now either, eeeehh.

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 991769)

Time takes it's toll dave.. don't want to wreck your dream but this is the latest pic of Debbie

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 991429)

Did you go on Wikipedia and write that yourself?:rolleyes:

I listened to Joe Jackson all the way from Accy to Strasbourg on a coach (school exchange trip) Easter 1979, that and Outlandos D'amour, almost wore the tapes out -both on A&M if i remember rightly.

It's fair enough on the part of a record company -who want to make money on their investment, to suggest the direction of an artist's first output - their own style will prevail if they are destined for success. Joe Jackson and The Police have stayed the test of time as artists even though their first songs were less "them", as you suggest in the case of JJ. The Police had a "Punk" first record -Landlord, which was not a hit -:D

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 991773)

She was top of the class back in 78 - I saw her at Blackburn King George's Hall. It was almost like a private date! :cool:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 998044)

Sex Pistols - There'll Always Be An England - The Knowledge - YouTube

Go to 52:27 on this film about Sex Pistols and you'll see a young Sting and Stuart Copeland putting up a poster....:rolleyes: Notice how Stings still wearing flares:eek: ha ha ha!

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1001076)

I forgot her..........Instantly.:D